The Russian-Ukrainian War Thread

Feanor

Feanor

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rsemmes said:
Boris Johnson ordered the planning of a military operation against the Netherlands to retrieve COVID vaccines; not an invasion, just a SMO. You just need to give them the right circumstances.
How unthinkable do you think it is for the British Army to shoot British civilians on British soil? Just give them the right circumstances.
Are you calling US uncivilized? What do you mean by "each other"? What other is "thinkable"? Bombing is all good but you draw the line at invading? SF and bombing still good for you? What is the difference between invaded and "really invaded"?

Over a year? Have you being doing that planning or where is that data coming from?

Yes, Zelensky's delusional plan of NATO fighting his war, Zelensky telling the uncivilized US what its duty is; that simple.

You are telling those countries what their mentality is and Zelensky is telling US what its duty is, that simple; but, of course, the willingness ("mentality") to invade is not the capacity/ability (can) to invade.
Coming back to the reality of the battlefield... Putin took a decision based on his view of Russian interests (invasion) as Zelensky took a decision based on his view of Ukraine interests (and its capacities, but maybe not a very accurate view of those.)
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Fredled said:
About Moldova and Georgia:
Despite large Russian interference that should be accounted for, the results of the polls were disapointing for Europe. In both countries, pro-European parties and presidents won by a thin margin. While it can be understandable for Georgia because it's not an European country (despite what others may say), for Moldova it's incomprehensible. It should be soemthing like 70 or 80% pro Europeam. Russian propagand should not be able to influence that much the election if the population is convinced that the European way is the best way.
With the war in Ukraine, it's even more diffficult to understand how some people in Moldova can vote for pro-Russian parties.
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Let's keep this thread on topic. This is a military forum, and this is a thread about the Russo-Ukrainian war. General political discussion is against forum rules and a narrow amount of it as it pertains to geo-strategic and security topics should be done in the appropriate thread.
 
Feanor

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The situation in the Seversk salient remains shrouded in fog. After footage that confirmed neither Ivano-Darievka nor Vyemka under Russian control we now have footage that confirms both are under Russian control. The map has been recolored but it raises questions. It's possible that the nature of the terrain and the difficulty of digging in have created a very large no-man's land where neither side really has control and instead occasionally demonstrates presence without lasting consequences. Even as this is unfolding Russian troops have been slowly gaining ground in the hills, and my personal guess is that once Russian forces control all or most of the high-ground the other areas will be under Russian control as well. I think this is one of those areas where control of the villages is far less significant. I would also point out that along with Chasov Yar this area is Ukraine's most successful defensive operation this year. Russian forces made substantial gains across the rest of the Donbas and Kharkov region on the Oskol. Russian forces have made minimal efforts to push in Zaporozhye but gained ground when they did, closing the Rabotino salient. The Seversk salient remains an area where Russian forces have tried and failed to break Ukraine's defense.
 
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According to Heinrich Torsten's summary, Russians keep pushing on Terny south-east of Kupiansk, and on Pershokrovnivne (spelling may be incorrect) west of Solydove.

They took Novooleksiivka in the Pokrovsk sector. This is not technically an advance toward the city of Pokrovsk, but rather a reinforcement of their position in the region.

They entered Steponifska and Antonivska north of Vuhledar, slowly closing the Kurakove pocket. Ukrainians seem to retreat from this area by fear of being trapped between the water reservoir and Russian lines.

Russians also made a small advance in the Ohrikhiv direction which have been dormant for quiet a while.

No change noticed in the Kursk and kharkiv axis.
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Now that Trump is elected, Ukrainian fighters in the Donbass' trenches are looking at their watch, counting down the hours, because the war is supposed to stop exactly 24 after Trump wins the election. (16 hours have passed already) They are looking forward to return home.

More seriousely, the consensus is that nobody knows what Trump will do. Even anonymous sources close to re-elected President don't know. Probably, Trump doesn't know either.
There is high chance that Mike Pompeo will return as defence advisor, which would be positive for Ukraine. but so far, nothing can be asserted one way or another.

Peskov doesn't seem over exited at Trump's victory.
Peskov said:
(I'm) not aware of any plans by President Vladimir Putin to congratulate Trump.

Let's not forget that we are talking about an unfriendly country that is directly and indirectly involved in a war against our state.

It is almost impossible to worsen them further, relations are at their historically lowest point. What happens next will depend on the next U.S. leadership.
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This speaks for itself: Trump was definitely not the Kremlin's candidate.
 
Feanor

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Fredled said:
According to Heinrich Torsten's summary, Russians keep pushing on Terny south-east of Kupiansk, and on Pershokrovnivne (spelling may be incorrect) west of Solydove.
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If he is claiming this, he is very confused. The village you're thinking of is called Pershotravene in Ukrainian and Pervotravnevoe in Russia, and it translates roughly to First Grassy Place. It is nowhere near Selidovo, or Selidove in Ukrainain. Instead it is also near Kupyansk, to the east-south-east of it, near Lozovoe, south of Berestovoe, and just south of the Russian salient at Peschanoe. Together with the southward push out of Kolesnikovka-Kruglyakovka, and the push on Lozovoe, these are all efforts to move towards Borovoe.


They took Novooleksiivka in the Pokrovsk sector. This is not technically an advance toward the city of Pokrovsk, but rather a reinforcement of their position in the region.
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This is the one that's west of Selidovo.


Now that Trump is elected, Ukrainian fighters in the Donbass' trenches are looking at their watch, counting down the hours, because the war is supposed to stop exactly 24 after Trump wins the election. (16 hours have passed already) They are looking forward to return home.

More seriousely, the consensus is that nobody knows what Trump will do. Even anonymous sources close to re-elected President don't know. Probably, Trump doesn't know either.
There is high chance that Mike Pompeo will return as defence advisor, which would be positive for Ukraine. but so far, nothing can be asserted one way or another.

Peskov doesn't seem over exited at Trump's victory.
This speaks for itself: Trump was definitely not the Kremlin's candidate.
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Russia doesn't currently have friends in the west. People being accused of being pro-Russian or Russia's friend is mostly a smear. It doesn't mean all candidates are equally unfriendly to Russia, but of course Trump is not the Kremlin's candidate. He is however a candidate that's more likely to cut aid to Ukraine.
 
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koxinga

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Well, one thing that I think of is the current US administration might rush larger arms packages in the remaining months.

If there is one certain thing with the incoming Trump administration on Ukraine, aid will likely be reduced significantly. This would be even more likely if they control both House and Senate.
 
rsemmes

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It seems that they heard me this time... or it is an opportunity advance.

They are moving towards Velika Novosilka (a long way SW from Pokrovsk) now, according to Kalibrated. Then Roszdolne-Roszliv and Andriivka.
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seaspear

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Has President Putin admitted that sanctions are damaging its economy in a televised speech as per this article with federal ministers previously this was denied?
 
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Fredled

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Feanor said:
If he is claiming this, he is very confused. The village you're thinking of is called Pershotravene
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Yes, he is often confused with Russian/Ukrainian names with more than two syllables. The village is indeed Pershotravene but he pronounces Pershotravshneve ;) .

There was an important Russian mechanised attack there.
 
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