Which Aircraft Should PAF opt for? [Recent F-16 deal news, etc]
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Re: Which Aircraft Should PAF opt for ????
I smell some smoking here. With due respect that was not my intention and NO, I have no problems with UK being a power or not. I was only telling you about what most of the people in very your own continent Europe and others in Asia think. It is a general view about UK and heck yeah, here in US also, we and when I say we, I mean Americans laugh and take UK always for granted. It is a general growing trend bud. No matter what you think about UK as that is not going to matter much compared to the opinion of other masses about UK.
Ok, Competent militaries do not get their all AC's shot by a conventional outdated SM's of Norway just in a single day. So much for technological advancement and British doctrine.
adsH said:
I smell some smoking here. With due respect that was not my intention and NO, I have no problems with UK being a power or not. I was only telling you about what most of the people in very your own continent Europe and others in Asia think. It is a general view about UK and heck yeah, here in US also, we and when I say we, I mean Americans laugh and take UK always for granted. It is a general growing trend bud. No matter what you think about UK as that is not going to matter much compared to the opinion of other masses about UK.
Ok, Competent militaries do not get their all AC's shot by a conventional outdated SM's of Norway just in a single day. So much for technological advancement and British doctrine.
Re: Which Aircraft Should PAF opt for ????
are you talking about Iraq incident when a tornado was brought down. BY the us Forces defenses. Well that's a Problem with the Friendly Patriot systems (friend or Foe) and the Poor tornado thought it was in a Friendly territory, You tell me Why would it feel threatened and expect ground SAM fire when it has other cap Mission to accomplish and it knows it's over its own terratory deap inside it. those Patriots were the Latest design, I think the they were new PAtriots, you can't expect a heavily armed and fully loaded Fuled AC to out run a Highly advance SAm. these SAm are designed by the same people that desinged Tornados so they know what Defenses Tornado has the Ie the counter measures. but it's no doubt that Tornados are good bombers with Swing roles, EF2000 would be alot more harder to get it was designed for Maneuverability and i would say it still is uptill now the most Advance Jet in Production to this date, the status may change as soon as JSF comesin to production. i can assure you we just like our friendship with the US were not Taken for granted by the US they respect us for being there most closest Ally, and, is this what is hurting you a powerfull alliance!! between big powers, The europeans always had a problem with this trans atalntic aliance i bet the french are the ones who spread lies.
I don't see how you (Proud INdian) don't see the UK RAF competent. explain to me why would u consider IAF more competent against RAF, when a IAF has suffered such humiliating defeats in the Past By a nation 1/5 the Size of yours and that your Air-force has suffed countless defeats against a poorly funded AiR force such as the PAF. i belive its 150+ AC lost over the Past three or four conflicts, yeah i bet your competent, oh rite and Your!! are loosing AC count every day at peace Time, that is the Single most pathetic Display Of competence i have ever seen,
are you talking about Iraq incident when a tornado was brought down. BY the us Forces defenses. Well that's a Problem with the Friendly Patriot systems (friend or Foe) and the Poor tornado thought it was in a Friendly territory, You tell me Why would it feel threatened and expect ground SAM fire when it has other cap Mission to accomplish and it knows it's over its own terratory deap inside it. those Patriots were the Latest design, I think the they were new PAtriots, you can't expect a heavily armed and fully loaded Fuled AC to out run a Highly advance SAm. these SAm are designed by the same people that desinged Tornados so they know what Defenses Tornado has the Ie the counter measures. but it's no doubt that Tornados are good bombers with Swing roles, EF2000 would be alot more harder to get it was designed for Maneuverability and i would say it still is uptill now the most Advance Jet in Production to this date, the status may change as soon as JSF comesin to production. i can assure you we just like our friendship with the US were not Taken for granted by the US they respect us for being there most closest Ally, and, is this what is hurting you a powerfull alliance!! between big powers, The europeans always had a problem with this trans atalntic aliance i bet the french are the ones who spread lies.
I don't see how you (Proud INdian) don't see the UK RAF competent. explain to me why would u consider IAF more competent against RAF, when a IAF has suffered such humiliating defeats in the Past By a nation 1/5 the Size of yours and that your Air-force has suffed countless defeats against a poorly funded AiR force such as the PAF. i belive its 150+ AC lost over the Past three or four conflicts, yeah i bet your competent, oh rite and Your!! are loosing AC count every day at peace Time, that is the Single most pathetic Display Of competence i have ever seen,
Re: Which Aircraft Should PAF opt for ????
No Bud, you are totally mistaken about what I am talking. I was talking about your AC's Aircraft carriers and destroyers shot by Norway in friendly excercise in North Atlantic and not only that, it was all work of a single norweign submarine.. Do you want me to post some links. Also I am not implying that it made Norway stronger then UK but am just telling you that with all the technical advances also, UK military is not something which can not be defeated or is not as unvisible you would like to think. As to how british politicians these days are thought about in US, I can post various cartoons which keep cropping up in various newspapers showing Bush chaining poodle Blair and going for a walk. Ofcourse, I have nothing against Britain as a country or for that matter masses of Britain so do not get annoyed with me.
Where did I say that IAF is more powerful then RAF? Read my post again. IAF may have had more losses in the war compared to PAF but it was all due to the training and at that time more technical advanced aircrafts of PAF. It has been said various times that advance aircrafts have superiority over numerically large but less advance aircrafts. In that case it was Saber versus nets.. but in 71 things were totally different. Most of the people here keep talking about better trained PAF compared to IAF and with what you have agreed too. Everyone will agree with this, that now IAF has not only numerical superiority, but more advance aircrafts along with much better training. Remember HAWK trainer has been purchased from UK and do I need to say that without India's order, the company was going to shut down its doors?
Yes, I agree with your statement of Indian Migs getting down almost every passing week which partially is due to the inferior quality parts of MIG-21 and perhaps the unforgiving nature of the aircraft which new Indian AF pilots are finding hard to handle. That is one of the reasons why Indian AF is changing all that.
No Bud, you are totally mistaken about what I am talking. I was talking about your AC's Aircraft carriers and destroyers shot by Norway in friendly excercise in North Atlantic and not only that, it was all work of a single norweign submarine..
Do you want me to post some links. Also I am not implying that it made Norway stronger then UK but am just telling you that with all the technical advances also, UK military is not something which can not be defeated or is not as unvisible you would like to think. As to how british politicians these days are thought about in US, I can post various cartoons which keep cropping up in various newspapers showing Bush chaining poodle Blair and going for a walk. Ofcourse, I have nothing against Britain as a country or for that matter masses of Britain so do not get annoyed with me.Where did I say that IAF is more powerful then RAF? Read my post again. IAF may have had more losses in the war compared to PAF but it was all due to the training and at that time more technical advanced aircrafts of PAF. It has been said various times that advance aircrafts have superiority over numerically large but less advance aircrafts. In that case it was Saber versus nets.. but in 71 things were totally different. Most of the people here keep talking about better trained PAF compared to IAF and with what you have agreed too. Everyone will agree with this, that now IAF has not only numerical superiority, but more advance aircrafts along with much better training. Remember HAWK trainer has been purchased from UK and do I need to say that without India's order, the company was going to shut down its doors?
Yes, I agree with your statement of Indian Migs getting down almost every passing week which partially is due to the inferior quality parts of MIG-21 and perhaps the unforgiving nature of the aircraft which new Indian AF pilots are finding hard to handle. That is one of the reasons why Indian AF is changing all that.
Re: Which Aircraft Should PAF opt for ????
minor correction. BAe is the 3rd largest defence company in the world. They were never at risk of closing down due to the lack of a new sale on the Hawk.
minor correction. BAe is the 3rd largest defence company in the world. They were never at risk of closing down due to the lack of a new sale on the Hawk.
Re: Which Aircraft Should PAF opt for ????
Yeah, I should have realised that ...
Soldier said:
Yeah, I should have realised that ...
Re: Which Aircraft Should PAF opt for ????
BAE is so essential to the Defense industry that the UK government treats it as a Public service such as the Transport Systems here, if the BAE system goes bankrupt (if that happens), it will never be allowed to shut down the Government can subsidize it with Cash injections, tax reliefs, more PUrchases or it can be nationalized becasue it was operated by the Government before privatization and it is a blend of Multitude of British Defence article production Firms. Even if you take out the British governmental INtervention, then there is the US government that treats BAE sytems as its own, they will help out.
BAE is so essential to the Defense industry that the UK government treats it as a Public service such as the Transport Systems here, if the BAE system goes bankrupt (if that happens), it will never be allowed to shut down the Government can subsidize it with Cash injections, tax reliefs, more PUrchases or it can be nationalized becasue it was operated by the Government before privatization and it is a blend of Multitude of British Defence article production Firms. Even if you take out the British governmental INtervention, then there is the US government that treats BAE sytems as its own, they will help out.
Re: Which Aircraft Should PAF opt for ????
Actually the odds are pretty high that BAe will be absorbed by one of the US big "2". Negotiations have been happening on various fronts for the last 12 months. They're a pig of a company to work with - not one of my most enjoyable life experiences having to deal with them.
adsH said:
Actually the odds are pretty high that BAe will be absorbed by one of the US big "2". Negotiations have been happening on various fronts for the last 12 months. They're a pig of a company to work with - not one of my most enjoyable life experiences having to deal with them.
Re: Which Aircraft Should PAF opt for ????
Is it Lockheed or boeing rite I would bet its Lockheed (is it no 2), i know BAE system has a nature that causes people to think twice when we (Engineers) open up our mouths, but they always choose the best out of the general work forces thats why you have couple of big headed gimps there.gf0012 said:
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Is the company itself full of beaurocrats adsh where decision making is a painfully long process??
adsH said:Is it Lockheed or boeing rite I would bet its Lockheed (is it no 2), i know BAE system has a nature that causes people to think twice when we (Engineers) open up our mouths, but they always choose the best out of the general work forces thats why you have couple of big headed gimps there.gf0012 said:
Is the company itself full of beaurocrats adsh where decision making is a painfully long process??
Re: Which Aircraft Should PAF opt for ????
i wouldn't say that but it is very very bigg. it stretched across the better part of the world It's R&D is Second to none and it has plenty of boses to make thing confusing at time, i would say any company reaching this size has to have some beaurocracy in it but it can make decision whne it has to, it has good loyal customers its liked by key buyers around the world so thats probably why one of the american firms wan't to engulf it.it has partnership in technology R&D with some of the most High tech Companies are the World such as SAAB.
i wouldn't say that but it is very very bigg. it stretched across the better part of the world It's R&D is Second to none and it has plenty of boses to make thing confusing at time, i would say any company reaching this size has to have some beaurocracy in it but it can make decision whne it has to, it has good loyal customers its liked by key buyers around the world so thats probably why one of the american firms wan't to engulf it.it has partnership in technology R&D with some of the most High tech Companies are the World such as SAAB.
Re: Which Aircraft Should PAF opt for ????
French Team In Pakistan To Discuses Mirage 2000-5 For PAF
ISLAMABAD, March 1, Kyodo - Pakistan will further explore the possibility of buying Mirage 2005 aircraft from France while a four-member French defense mission visits Saturday for two days, Defense Ministry sources said Friday.
The French delegation is being led by Jean Louis Barbier, a senior official of the French Defense Ministry, and is to meet relevant officials of the Pakistan Navy and Air Force in Karachi and Islamabad.
The sources said the delegation would primarily focus on reviewing ongoing projects such as cooperation in the assembly of a high-performance Agasta submarine, provided by France, at the Karachi Naval Yard and retrofitting and upgrading existing Mirage aircraft in Pakistan's air force.
Pakistan has already evaluated the feasibility of introducing Mirage 2000-5s into its air fleet and a Pakistan Air Force delegation is expected to visit France to test fly the aircraft, sources said.
President Pervez Musharraf has also discussed the possibility of buying another batch of F-16 aircraft from the United States, an issue to be examined by a joint Pakistan-U.S. defense group that will hold a meeting within next few months.
French Team In Pakistan To Discuses Mirage 2000-5 For PAF
ISLAMABAD, March 1, Kyodo - Pakistan will further explore the possibility of buying Mirage 2005 aircraft from France while a four-member French defense mission visits Saturday for two days, Defense Ministry sources said Friday.
The French delegation is being led by Jean Louis Barbier, a senior official of the French Defense Ministry, and is to meet relevant officials of the Pakistan Navy and Air Force in Karachi and Islamabad.
The sources said the delegation would primarily focus on reviewing ongoing projects such as cooperation in the assembly of a high-performance Agasta submarine, provided by France, at the Karachi Naval Yard and retrofitting and upgrading existing Mirage aircraft in Pakistan's air force.
Pakistan has already evaluated the feasibility of introducing Mirage 2000-5s into its air fleet and a Pakistan Air Force delegation is expected to visit France to test fly the aircraft, sources said.
President Pervez Musharraf has also discussed the possibility of buying another batch of F-16 aircraft from the United States, an issue to be examined by a joint Pakistan-U.S. defense group that will hold a meeting within next few months.
Re: Which Aircraft Should PAF opt for ????
I don't think the Mirage 2005 are going to be used as air superiority fighters they could be bought to be inducted as Naval Air fleet, but this article is old way old since then alot has changed like Pak has become MNNA.i think Mirages are risky india is planning an update to 2005 mk2 standard the Jet is already too old. i don't think it should be bought for PAF unless the contract is for TOT as it was intended to be, i remember the original negotiations were for the purchase of TOT for Mirages 2005 mk2 and Augusta 90b, pak had monetary problems at that time so the deal was shrunk according to priority. if this actually goes through you might see either MIrage 2005 with TOT and F-16 slowly disapearing out of the fleet. but its unlikely F-16 options are just too tempting its cheaper and alot more affective plus india doesn't operate them. and the Viper has a very good record on the score cards. teh logistics are inplace training are inplace, so induction time would be very little, i think if they mange to pull of a TOT or a local assembly line that might be enough to keep VIPer as the main fighter.
saber said:
I don't think the Mirage 2005 are going to be used as air superiority fighters they could be bought to be inducted as Naval Air fleet, but this article is old way old since then alot has changed like Pak has become MNNA.i think Mirages are risky india is planning an update to 2005 mk2 standard the Jet is already too old. i don't think it should be bought for PAF unless the contract is for TOT as it was intended to be, i remember the original negotiations were for the purchase of TOT for Mirages 2005 mk2 and Augusta 90b, pak had monetary problems at that time so the deal was shrunk according to priority. if this actually goes through you might see either MIrage 2005 with TOT and F-16 slowly disapearing out of the fleet. but its unlikely F-16 options are just too tempting its cheaper and alot more affective plus india doesn't operate them. and the Viper has a very good record on the score cards. teh logistics are inplace training are inplace, so induction time would be very little, i think if they mange to pull of a TOT or a local assembly line that might be enough to keep VIPer as the main fighter.
Re: Which Aircraft Should PAF opt for ????
PAF selected (Jakt Attack Spanning)-39 "Gripen"
http://jang.com.pk/thenews/jun2004-daily/16-06-2004/main/update.shtml#02
Pakistan interested to purchase JAS-Gripen aircrafts
(Updated at 0845 PST) By Muhammad Saleh Zaafir
ISLAMABAD: Pakistan is acquiring state of art high-tech front role most sophisticated JAS-Gripen aircrafts for Pakistan Air Force (PAF) from Sweden.
These aircrafts on their induction in the PAF would help in restoring balance in air defence of South Asian skies especially between Pakistan and India. The Gripens are far superior then Mig-27, Mig-29, Mig-31 and Mairage-2000, the front role Indian fighter plans. Well placed defence sources told The News here on Monday that President General Pervez Musharraf is visiting three important Scandinavian countries next month including Sweden and it is expected that the deal for purchase of the Gripen would also come up for discussion.
The President will visit to Denmark and Norway in the same trip. The sources said that Pakistan is going for JAS-39 version of Gripen aircraft, considered to be far more effective than US made F-16, the only front role state of art plans the PAF is relying and the mainstay of the Pakistan Air Force for any eventuality. The overhauling and maintenance technology will also be transferred to Pakistan of Gripens by Sweden once the deal is struck, the sources said.
The sources said that South Africa is the first country that acquired Gripens after the Swedish Air Force. South Africa was provided the first batch of the aircrafts in 2000 and since then the aircrafts are demonstrating remarkable performance.
Hungry and Check Republic have also purchased the JAS Gripen, the sources said. Pakistan has planned to buy 40 JAS-39 Gripens with most modern radars would be fitted in them. These aircrafts will be capable to strike deep into the enemy’s territory as these plans could be refueled in the air.
They will be equipped with jamming transmitters and capable of carrying any type of warhead to a distance of more than three thousand kilometre, the sources added. The sources said that Pakistan has decided to acquire the Gripens after finding difficulties in getting US made F-16s while Pakistan has also studied French made Rafael and upcoming European aircraft Euro fighters.
In the end it has been decided to go into a deal for the Gripens. Pakistan is expecting to induct JF-17 Thunder in the PAF in early 2007 but the Gripens would be available much before that, the sources said. The PAF is in dire need of high-tech plan.
The Gripens will adequately fulfill the need, the sources said. Pakistan could not have any high-tech plan after acquiring F-16 some twenty years ago. The JF- 17 Thunder is being manufactured with collaborations of Chinese technology and again it would be slightly advanced to the mid-tech aircrafts.
The JF 17 Thunder will be framed close to the F-16 while the Gripens will be Delta wing aircraft resembling with French made Mairage-2000 and it will be all weather capability plan with multi role of fighting, bombing and role of reconnaissance.
The super sonic Gripens will be flying with mach-2plus speed, beating in speed all its contemporaries, the sources said. The single seat fighter-attacker-reconnaissance Gripen is heads up and down display that replaces normal flight instruments. Its excellence has already proven and with ECM (Electronic Counter Measures) and navigation system, the Gripen is considered to be the current century’s plan in true sense, the sources added.
The sources said that Sweden is prepared to supply the plans according to the requirement of Pakistan. Foreign Secretary Riaz Kkhokhar visited Sweden last month and discussed with the authorities in Stockholm schedule of the visit of the President of Pakistan. Both the capitals are engaged in finalising the dates for the visit.
It is expected that Lt. General (Retired) Hamid Nawaz, Secretary defence would also be part of entourage of the President when he will be embarking upon the trip to the three countries. General Hamid Nawaz was instrumental when Pakistan acquired weapons from the United States last year and he succeeded in striking deal for the weapons, which were previously denied by the United States, the sources added.
PAF selected (Jakt Attack Spanning)-39 "Gripen"
http://jang.com.pk/thenews/jun2004-daily/16-06-2004/main/update.shtml#02
Pakistan interested to purchase JAS-Gripen aircrafts
(Updated at 0845 PST) By Muhammad Saleh Zaafir
ISLAMABAD: Pakistan is acquiring state of art high-tech front role most sophisticated JAS-Gripen aircrafts for Pakistan Air Force (PAF) from Sweden.
These aircrafts on their induction in the PAF would help in restoring balance in air defence of South Asian skies especially between Pakistan and India. The Gripens are far superior then Mig-27, Mig-29, Mig-31 and Mairage-2000, the front role Indian fighter plans. Well placed defence sources told The News here on Monday that President General Pervez Musharraf is visiting three important Scandinavian countries next month including Sweden and it is expected that the deal for purchase of the Gripen would also come up for discussion.
The President will visit to Denmark and Norway in the same trip. The sources said that Pakistan is going for JAS-39 version of Gripen aircraft, considered to be far more effective than US made F-16, the only front role state of art plans the PAF is relying and the mainstay of the Pakistan Air Force for any eventuality. The overhauling and maintenance technology will also be transferred to Pakistan of Gripens by Sweden once the deal is struck, the sources said.
The sources said that South Africa is the first country that acquired Gripens after the Swedish Air Force. South Africa was provided the first batch of the aircrafts in 2000 and since then the aircrafts are demonstrating remarkable performance.
Hungry and Check Republic have also purchased the JAS Gripen, the sources said. Pakistan has planned to buy 40 JAS-39 Gripens with most modern radars would be fitted in them. These aircrafts will be capable to strike deep into the enemy’s territory as these plans could be refueled in the air.
They will be equipped with jamming transmitters and capable of carrying any type of warhead to a distance of more than three thousand kilometre, the sources added. The sources said that Pakistan has decided to acquire the Gripens after finding difficulties in getting US made F-16s while Pakistan has also studied French made Rafael and upcoming European aircraft Euro fighters.
In the end it has been decided to go into a deal for the Gripens. Pakistan is expecting to induct JF-17 Thunder in the PAF in early 2007 but the Gripens would be available much before that, the sources said. The PAF is in dire need of high-tech plan.
The Gripens will adequately fulfill the need, the sources said. Pakistan could not have any high-tech plan after acquiring F-16 some twenty years ago. The JF- 17 Thunder is being manufactured with collaborations of Chinese technology and again it would be slightly advanced to the mid-tech aircrafts.
The JF 17 Thunder will be framed close to the F-16 while the Gripens will be Delta wing aircraft resembling with French made Mairage-2000 and it will be all weather capability plan with multi role of fighting, bombing and role of reconnaissance.
The super sonic Gripens will be flying with mach-2plus speed, beating in speed all its contemporaries, the sources said. The single seat fighter-attacker-reconnaissance Gripen is heads up and down display that replaces normal flight instruments. Its excellence has already proven and with ECM (Electronic Counter Measures) and navigation system, the Gripen is considered to be the current century’s plan in true sense, the sources added.
The sources said that Sweden is prepared to supply the plans according to the requirement of Pakistan. Foreign Secretary Riaz Kkhokhar visited Sweden last month and discussed with the authorities in Stockholm schedule of the visit of the President of Pakistan. Both the capitals are engaged in finalising the dates for the visit.
It is expected that Lt. General (Retired) Hamid Nawaz, Secretary defence would also be part of entourage of the President when he will be embarking upon the trip to the three countries. General Hamid Nawaz was instrumental when Pakistan acquired weapons from the United States last year and he succeeded in striking deal for the weapons, which were previously denied by the United States, the sources added.
ARE PAKISTAN ABOUT TO PURCHASE THE JAS-Gripen
very intresting, this version of the Gripen will be much more advanced then the indian Mirage, and Migs and others but i dont think it will be as good as the SU-30MKI, but close,
it is "speculated" that pakistan are only purchasing 40
very intresting, this version of the Gripen will be much more advanced then the indian Mirage, and Migs and others but i dont think it will be as good as the SU-30MKI, but close,
it is "speculated" that pakistan are only purchasing 40
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Pakistan is acquiring JAS-Gripen
[size=18]Pakistan is acquiring JAS-Gripen [/size]
http://www.jang.com.pk/thenews/
jang-news
ISLAMABAD: Pakistan is acquiring state of art high-tech front role most sophisticated JAS-Gripen aircrafts for Pakistan Air Force (PAF) from Sweden.
These aircrafts on their induction in the PAF would help in restoring balance in air defence of South Asian skies especially between Pakistan and India. The Gripens are far superior then Mig-27, Mig-29, Mig-31 and Mairage-2000, the front role Indian fighter plans. Well placed defence sources told The News here on Monday that President General Pervez Musharraf is visiting three important Scandinavian countries next month including Sweden and it is expected that the deal for purchase of the Gripen would also come up for discussion.
The President will visit to Denmark and Norway in the same trip. The sources said that Pakistan is going for JAS-39 version of Gripen aircraft, considered to be far more effective than US made F-16, the only front role state of art plans the PAF is relying and the mainstay of the Pakistan Air Force for any eventuality. The overhauling and maintenance technology will also be transferred to Pakistan of Gripens by Sweden once the deal is struck, the sources said.
The sources said that South Africa is the first country that acquired Gripens after the Swedish Air Force. South Africa was provided the first batch of the aircrafts in 2000 and since then the aircrafts are demonstrating remarkable performance.
Hungry and Check Republic have also purchased the JAS Gripen, the sources said. Pakistan has planned to buy 40 JAS-39 Gripens with most modern radars would be fitted in them. These aircrafts will be capable to strike deep into the enemy’s territory as these plans could be refueled in the air.
They will be equipped with jamming transmitters and capable of carrying any type of warhead to a distance of more than three thousand kilometre, the sources added. The sources said that Pakistan has decided to acquire the Gripens after finding difficulties in getting US made F-16s while Pakistan has also studied French made Rafael and upcoming European aircraft Euro fighters.
In the end it has been decided to go into a deal for the Gripens. Pakistan is expecting to induct JF-17 Thunder in the PAF in early 2007 but the Gripens would be available much before that, the sources said. The PAF is in dire need of high-tech plan.
The Gripens will adequately fulfill the need, the sources said. Pakistan could not have any high-tech plan after acquiring F-16 some twenty years ago. The JF- 17 Thunder is being manufactured with collaborations of Chinese technology and again it would be slightly advanced to the mid-tech aircrafts.
The JF 17 Thunder will be framed close to the F-16 while the Gripens will be Delta wing aircraft resembling with French made Mairage-2000 and it will be all weather capability plan with multi role of fighting, bombing and role of reconnaissance.
The super sonic Gripens will be flying with mach-2plus speed, beating in speed all its contemporaries, the sources said. The single seat fighter-attacker-reconnaissance Gripen is heads up and down display that replaces normal flight instruments. Its excellence has already proven and with ECM (Electronic Counter Measures) and navigation system, the Gripen is considered to be the current century’s plan in true sense, the sources added.
The sources said that Sweden is prepared to supply the plans according to the requirement of Pakistan. Foreign Secretary Riaz Kkhokhar visited Sweden last month and discussed with the authorities in Stockholm schedule of the visit of the President of Pakistan. Both the capitals are engaged in finalising the dates for the visit.
It is expected that Lt. General (Retired) Hamid Nawaz, Secretary defence would also be part of entourage of the President when he will be embarking upon the trip to the three countries. General Hamid Nawaz was instrumental when Pakistan acquired weapons from the United States last year and he succeeded in striking deal for the weapons, which were previously denied by the United States, the sources added.
[size=18]Pakistan is acquiring JAS-Gripen [/size]
http://www.jang.com.pk/thenews/
jang-news
ISLAMABAD: Pakistan is acquiring state of art high-tech front role most sophisticated JAS-Gripen aircrafts for Pakistan Air Force (PAF) from Sweden.
These aircrafts on their induction in the PAF would help in restoring balance in air defence of South Asian skies especially between Pakistan and India. The Gripens are far superior then Mig-27, Mig-29, Mig-31 and Mairage-2000, the front role Indian fighter plans. Well placed defence sources told The News here on Monday that President General Pervez Musharraf is visiting three important Scandinavian countries next month including Sweden and it is expected that the deal for purchase of the Gripen would also come up for discussion.
The President will visit to Denmark and Norway in the same trip. The sources said that Pakistan is going for JAS-39 version of Gripen aircraft, considered to be far more effective than US made F-16, the only front role state of art plans the PAF is relying and the mainstay of the Pakistan Air Force for any eventuality. The overhauling and maintenance technology will also be transferred to Pakistan of Gripens by Sweden once the deal is struck, the sources said.
The sources said that South Africa is the first country that acquired Gripens after the Swedish Air Force. South Africa was provided the first batch of the aircrafts in 2000 and since then the aircrafts are demonstrating remarkable performance.
Hungry and Check Republic have also purchased the JAS Gripen, the sources said. Pakistan has planned to buy 40 JAS-39 Gripens with most modern radars would be fitted in them. These aircrafts will be capable to strike deep into the enemy’s territory as these plans could be refueled in the air.
They will be equipped with jamming transmitters and capable of carrying any type of warhead to a distance of more than three thousand kilometre, the sources added. The sources said that Pakistan has decided to acquire the Gripens after finding difficulties in getting US made F-16s while Pakistan has also studied French made Rafael and upcoming European aircraft Euro fighters.
In the end it has been decided to go into a deal for the Gripens. Pakistan is expecting to induct JF-17 Thunder in the PAF in early 2007 but the Gripens would be available much before that, the sources said. The PAF is in dire need of high-tech plan.
The Gripens will adequately fulfill the need, the sources said. Pakistan could not have any high-tech plan after acquiring F-16 some twenty years ago. The JF- 17 Thunder is being manufactured with collaborations of Chinese technology and again it would be slightly advanced to the mid-tech aircrafts.
The JF 17 Thunder will be framed close to the F-16 while the Gripens will be Delta wing aircraft resembling with French made Mairage-2000 and it will be all weather capability plan with multi role of fighting, bombing and role of reconnaissance.
The super sonic Gripens will be flying with mach-2plus speed, beating in speed all its contemporaries, the sources said. The single seat fighter-attacker-reconnaissance Gripen is heads up and down display that replaces normal flight instruments. Its excellence has already proven and with ECM (Electronic Counter Measures) and navigation system, the Gripen is considered to be the current century’s plan in true sense, the sources added.
The sources said that Sweden is prepared to supply the plans according to the requirement of Pakistan. Foreign Secretary Riaz Kkhokhar visited Sweden last month and discussed with the authorities in Stockholm schedule of the visit of the President of Pakistan. Both the capitals are engaged in finalising the dates for the visit.
It is expected that Lt. General (Retired) Hamid Nawaz, Secretary defence would also be part of entourage of the President when he will be embarking upon the trip to the three countries. General Hamid Nawaz was instrumental when Pakistan acquired weapons from the United States last year and he succeeded in striking deal for the weapons, which were previously denied by the United States, the sources added.
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Re: Pakistan is acquiring JAS-Gripen
thats the best thing that i ave heard ina long time.........it says tranfers of tech as well....that will be awsome..........add ereeye to the equation than this will be a leathel combo.more than a match for any thing india got to offer........ :smokingc::
thats the best thing that i ave heard ina long time.........it says tranfers of tech as well....that will be awsome..........add ereeye to the equation than this will be a leathel combo.more than a match for any thing india got to offer........ :smokingc:
:Re: ARE PAKISTAN ABOUT TO PURCHASE THE JAS-Gripen
AWACS should be able to use the JAS-39 in a more productive manner. the Avionics are 4/5th gen, its a light highly maneuverable AC. the power-plant will be french instead of American :?. the EW suite is realy advance too. since the Awacs that we are predicting will be the Eyiree (spelling so the network capability would be really great). this will complement the existing 32 F-16 that are suppose to get MLU and 18 are expected to be bought and updated too. PAF is also trying to get 24 plus new generation f-16.
PJ-10 BrahMos said:
AWACS should be able to use the JAS-39 in a more productive manner. the Avionics are 4/5th gen, its a light highly maneuverable AC. the power-plant will be french instead of American :?. the EW suite is realy advance too. since the Awacs that we are predicting will be the Eyiree (spelling so the network capability would be really great). this will complement the existing 32 F-16 that are suppose to get MLU and 18 are expected to be bought and updated too. PAF is also trying to get 24 plus new generation f-16.
Re: Pakistan is acquiring JAS-Gripen
i doubt it will be a TOT at production level but at the moment its all overhauls and maintenance techniques would be transfered with the AC. TOT might be at research and development level. PAF has its own JF-17 to develop too. but if this happen you can see JF-17 being updated too with some input from the Grippen.
fieldmarshal said:thats the best thing that i ave heard ina long time.........it says tranfers of tech as well....that will be awsome..........add ereeye to the equation than this will be a leathel combo.more than a match for any thing india got to offer........ :smokingc:
i doubt it will be a TOT at production level but at the moment its all overhauls and maintenance techniques would be transfered with the AC. TOT might be at research and development level. PAF has its own JF-17 to develop too. but if this happen you can see JF-17 being updated too with some input from the Grippen.