Which Aircraft Should PAF opt for? [Recent F-16 deal news, etc]

Which Aircraft Should PAF opt for?


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gf0012-aust

Grumpy Old Man
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Re: Which Aircraft Should PAF opt for ????

Roger, The World Bank and IMF loans are not allowed to be used for weapons procurement or force maintenance.
 

ullu

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Re: Which Aircraft Should PAF opt for ????

roger/others where do you get info about pak? what sources? those sources need to be updated-they are OUTDATED by gap of like 6 years. :lol :lolol


:pak
 

saraab

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come on Roger. If u come to find the money US has borrowed from different monetary orgs and the budget deficet they have, u wont even allow them to buy a mere rifle :D2 :D2 :D2 :lol
 

mysterious

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Re: Which Aircraft Should PAF opt for ????

true! the united states has the largest budget deficit and outstanding internal and external debts than any other country on this planet! :!:
 

Oqaab

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Roger Smith said:
Oqaab

You are too sensitive, I am backing my aforementioned statement from a Pakistani news media.

"World Bank to approves $3 billion assistance"

Islamabad: Feb 20: The World Bank has pledged to approve a three-year $3 billion country assistance strategy for Pakistan on March 11 and release $300 million under the Poverty Reduction Strategy Paper in April.

http://www.dawn.com/2004/02/21/top8.htm

Oqaab, do you think World Bank's loans or assistance are without any strings attached to Pakistan? If you think that way and Pakistan can avail its funds buying arms then beg World Bank and IMF for more funds, you are highly mistaken. These International Financial Institutions are there to make money and know how to safe guard their funds from countries they give loan.
Thats assistance. Not loan. And this is meant to be spent over economy and poverty reduction.
 

gf0012-aust

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Re: Which Aircraft Should PAF opt for ????

Settle down everyone, I am going to start deleting threads in here that have not dealt with the initial post subject.

 

Roger Smith

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Re: Which Aircraft Should PAF opt for ????

mysterious said:
true! the united states has the largest budget deficit and outstanding internal and external debts than any other country on this planet! :!:
You can not compare Pakistan's economic with the USA. The American GDP (per captia purchasing power) is almost $9 trillion and the defence budget is about $350 billion a year. :smokingc:
 

mysterious

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Re: Which Aircraft Should PAF opt for ????

Roger Smith said:
mysterious said:
true! the united states has the largest budget deficit and outstanding internal and external debts than any other country on this planet! :!:
You can not compare Pakistan's economic with the USA. The American GDP (per captia purchasing power) is almost $9 trillion and the defence budget is about $350 billion a year. :smokingc:
Yeah thats true. But even for a country like itself, the U.S. has a dangerously high amount of debt and budget deficit. :cop
 

Roger Smith

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Re: Which Aircraft Should PAF opt for ????

mysterious said:
Roger Smith said:
mysterious said:
true! the united states has the largest budget deficit and outstanding internal and external debts than any other country on this planet! :!:
You can not compare Pakistan's economic with the USA. The American GDP (per captia purchasing power) is almost $9 trillion and the defence budget is about $350 billion a year. :smokingc:
Yeah thats true. But even for a country like itself, the U.S. has a dangerously high amount of debt and budget deficit. :cop
I do not think so, the American are controlling the world economic and is the lone super power.

Do you know what is $9 trillion? :?


:canada
 

mysterious

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Re: Which Aircraft Should PAF opt for ????

I'm not saying that U.S. is not a superpower but if you take a look at some financial news, you'll see that since 9/11, the U.S. economy has slightly improved with no significant achievement! Plus, the war in iraq n afghanistan against terrorism is draining away U.S. finances bigtime!
Anyway, stick to the topic. This is not the place to discuss America's economic problems :cop
 

Roger Smith

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Re: Which Aircraft Should PAF opt for ????

mysterious said:
Anyway, stick to the topic. This is not the place to discuss America's economic problems :cop
Yes, boss!!!!!!!!! :smokingc:

Tell me when would PAF inducts new aircrafts in its inventory...........the number of aircraft, type and approx time frame without any BS. :?

Thanks.


:canada
 

mysterious

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Re: Which Aircraft Should PAF opt for ????

Althought much has already been discussed, lets now wait for the Air Show in Singapore to get over and see if PAF has anything planned or if they negotiate something over there; cuz Typhoon and Rafale are all there at the air show :smokingc:
 

Roger Smith

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Re: Which Aircraft Should PAF opt for ????

mysterious said:
Althought much has already been discussed, lets now wait for the Air Show in Singapore to get over and see if PAF has anything planned or if they negotiate something over there; cuz Typhoon and Rafale are all there at the air show :smokingc:

Great!!!!!!!! :smokingc:


:canada
 

moinanwer

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Re: Which Aircraft Should PAF opt for ????

many airforces around the world have aircraft like tornado for Germany ,Italy,England, F15E for US ,Israel,Japan,Saudia , Su-30 for Russia,China,India , F4 for Germany,Turky,Egypt,Israel ,Mirage 2000 D for France ,F16D for Israel, F/A 18 D for Malyasia(as mini tornado). All these aircaraft have one thing in common, the guy in back i.e the Weapon System Officer. I think Its about time PAF should have an air craft like these .
Do any one agree with me :?:
 

Oqaab

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Re: Which Aircraft Should PAF opt for ????

moinanwer said:
many airforces around the world have aircraft like tornado for Germany ,Italy,England, F15E for US ,Israel,Japan,Saudia , Su-30 for Russia,China,India , F4 for Germany,Turky,Egypt,Israel ,Mirage 2000 D for France ,F16D for Israel, F/A 18 D for Malyasia(as mini tornado). All these aircaraft have one thing in common, the guy in back i.e the Weapon System Officer. I think Its about time PAF should have an air craft like these .
Do any one agree with me :?:
U mean, we should buy aircrafts which have tendem ? Well, PAF have been looking for such aircrafts in the past (MiG-29s and Su-30s) but Russian policy of not staying neutral in Indo-Pak affairs, canceled the deal. Also, most of the tendem seated aircrafts have two engines aswell and they nee a lot of maintainence.
 

Gangsternation

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pakistan just go for the eurofighters they are 60 million buy 40 eurofighters for 2.4 billion which is not bad these are 2nd best plane on this planet pakistan i hope you buy the rafale or the eurofighter no more chineese crap lets go for the big guns


the jf-17's they will make up large part as well so keep buying eurofighters here and thier and send all the a-5's and crap to a poor country that is desperate make some money :nonsense
 

moinanwer

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Re: Which Aircraft Should PAF opt for ????

Oqaab said:
moinanwer said:
many airforces around the world have aircraft like tornado for Germany ,Italy,England, F15E for US ,Israel,Japan,Saudia , Su-30 for Russia,China,India , F4 for Germany,Turky,Egypt,Israel ,Mirage 2000 D for France ,F16D for Israel, F/A 18 D for Malyasia(as mini tornado). All these aircaraft have one thing in common, the guy in back i.e the Weapon System Officer. I think Its about time PAF should have an air craft like these .
Do any one agree with me :?:
U mean, we should buy aircrafts which have tendem ? Well, PAF have been looking for such aircrafts in the past (MiG-29s and Su-30s) but Russian policy of not staying neutral in Indo-Pak affairs, canceled the deal. Also, most of the tendem seated aircrafts have two engines aswell and they nee a lot of maintainence.
Both Rafael And Eurofighter are twin engine aircrafts, so if pakistan chooses one of these,they will require same amount of maintenence to the twin seat models.Dassualt has developed the Twin Seat Rafeal for Mirage 2000D Replacement.

Any chance using JF-17 ala F-16Ds of Israel.I have only read about these Israeli F16Ds in passing. Can any one provide some detail how much different they are from Basic Two Seat Version. :help
 
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