The Russian-Ukrainian War Thread

rsemmes

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He is very lucid. He says exactly what has to said.
If there is an invitation to NATO it's for the all Ukraine, that's obvious. There has never been any question about some part of Ukraine inside NATO and others not.
Zelensky can't never hint at territorial concession to Russia. The basis of any conversation on this topic is that the Donbas and Crimea are legaly Ukrainian territory because that's what it is. There is no departing from that.
Suggesting, even indirectly, that some territories currently under Russian control could be given to Putin as a gesture of good will to start negotiations would be a terrible mistake because it would imply that Putin has some rights or at least good reasons to deserve to own these land areas.
You start with an "if", that, in this situation, is already being delusional.
He hinted.
He invited himself, that is being delusional.

In the interview there was a "the world leaders", so not him, he is the one who can do nothing. He is lucid there.
 

Fredled

Active Member
@rsemmes There is a broad consensus that Ukraine should apply to NATO and that their application should be accepted among all NATO members, save Hungary. So it's not delusional to expect such invitation in a foreseeable future. It's increasingly likely.
 

Fredled

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@Rob c I agree with what you said. I was talking about the vocabulary and basic sentences to use in formal communications with the press, the public and the international community. At no moment, the idea of giving up land to Russia should be mentioned, even thought it's what will happen at the end.
 

rsemmes

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@rsemmes There is a broad consensus that Ukraine should apply to NATO and that their application should be accepted among all NATO members, save Hungary. So it's not delusional to expect such invitation in a foreseeable future. It's increasingly likely.
Ukraine is too corrupt to join NATO on NATO's own words.
By "broad consensus" do you mean Zelensky and you? Do you include Trump?
"At least seven countries are against Ukraine’s immediate membership to the North Atlantic Treaty Organization (NATO), including Germany and the United States, as well as Hungary, Slovakia, Slovenia, Belgium, and Spain, according to Politico, citing four anonymous U.S. and NATO officials and diplomats."

To expect that in the future things will go your way because you want them to go your way is what I will call delusion.
 

Feanor

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A hilarious illustration of why Russian officialdom should not be taken at face value just about ever. Here's a list of MoD publications that claim to have been engaged in combat with Ukrainian units that don't exist... They're not lying so much as fabricating stories with no connection to reality at all. It isn't dishonesty, it's fiction. I'm being sarcastic of course.

 

Fredled

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@rsemmes There is no such a thing as "immediate membership". The only thing that can be immediate is marking the application as receivable. When this is done, it takes at least two years before membership is offered.

There is consensus that Ukraine will join NATO, but it's also understood that it's not feasible as long as the war is going on, and that it will take several years from now on, and probably one or two years after the end of hostilities. This is neither new or extraordinary. It's what has been said for almost a year already.
Politico said:
Scholz told reporters during U.S. President Joe Biden’s visit to Berlin last week: “We are making sure that NATO does not become a party to the war, so that this war does not turn into a much greater catastrophe.”

However, the officials who spoke to POLITICO sought to underline that neither the U.S. nor Germany are ruling out Ukraine’s eventual accession to the alliance.

The Biden administration’s position has long been that admission to NATO would occur after the war ends
 

rsemmes

Member
@Fredled
My guess is that Político knows there is no "immediate membership".

"marking the application as receivable/(received?)"
"before membership is offered"
"will join NATO"
"eventual accession to the alliance"
"should apply to NATO"
"the application should be accepted"
And all for:
"to expect such an invitation in a foreseeable future"
When is that future?

There is a war now and Zelensky invited himself to a NATO that has being keeping its distance from the very beginning.
Playing with words is not now, Ukraine joining NATO in 20 years (if ever, Putin can actually do something about that) has nothing to do with the war going on now.

Zelensky keeps dreaming with NATO, NATO is not fighting this war for him; betting on NATO is delusional.

Edit.
Sorry, "hopes", not "dreams".

Zelensky said Sunday that Kyiv was hoping NATO foreign ministers meeting in Brussels with Ukraine's top diplomat would issue "recommendations" to grant his country a membership invitation.
...
Russian President Vladimir Putin has warned against any moves to place Ukraine under NATO's security umbrella.
"Such a potential decision is unacceptable to us," Kremlin spokesman Dmitry Peskov said.




 
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Feanor

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We've got some movement in Toretsk where Russian forces are trying to take the central mine and refuse mounds, and in Chasov Yar where Russian forces have grabbed a piece of the central factory complex. Both of these are the key points for each town. The fall of each to Russia would be the beginning of the end for Ukrainian resistance in those towns. At this point I don't think Russia will take either town before year's end, unless something drastic happens. Note in both areas Russia has been mostly stalled for some time now.
 

Fredled

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According to Heinrich Torsten report published 24h ago (so not 100% up to date but the last one):
Kursk: Ukrainians retook some areas west of Pogrebki (Russian and N-Korean graveyard ==> LOL @KipPotapych).
Oksil River, Kupiansk region: Russian arranged a second crossing over the river. Took Vyshnieve. Got close to Terny.
Toresk: Heavy fightings around and perhaps already inside Toresk. No clear situation report there at the moment.
Pokrovsk: Russian took Lisyvka (or Lysinka?) and Zhovte. Small villages in the east and south east of Pokrovsk.
Kurakhove: Russians are in Sentivka and near Stare Terny, at the left end of the reservoir where Ukes blew up the dam crossing a few weeks ago. Surprisingly, Ukrainians are still in Romeniivka in the east of the pocket, or at least one hamlet left of it. It's not clear whether this is intentional or not.
Velyka Novosylka (West of Vuhledar): Russians took Roz-Dolne and Nowy Komar ("New Mosquito" ???).
 

KipPotapych

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According to Heinrich Torsten report published 24h ago (so not 100% up to date but the last one):
Kursk: Ukrainians retook some areas west of Pogrebki (Russian and N-Korean graveyard ==> LOL @KipPotapych).
Only RU and NK, not Ukrainian?

Regarding North Koreans:

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Source: x.com. In spite of the claims by the Ukrainian officials and military personnel, we still haven’t seen any evidence of the Koreans participating in any fighting.

Oksil River, Kupiansk region: Russian arranged a second crossing over the river. Took Vyshnieve. Got close to Terny.
Russian troops had either crossed back the river or were pushed back. The area is back under the Ukrainian control/grey zone.

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Source: x.com. Deepstate and much of everyone else state the same.

Toresk: Heavy fightings around and perhaps already inside Toresk. No clear situation report there at the moment.
Russians have been inside Toretsk since the end of summer. There is nothing unclear about that. I do not remember exactly, but Wikipedia says they entered the city on August 22.


Per Deepstate, this is what it looks like today:

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Russia has controlled half of the city since about October or so. There has been some back and forth, but they pushed Ukrainians out of the areas they recaptured for a brief period of time.


in other news, days after Umerov (UA minister of defense) visited South Korea asking for military assistance, an ask that was declined, Koreans started testing their UAVs on T-80s and BMP-3, according to the Ukrainian outlet (in Ukrainian):


Some were saying (hoping?) these vehicles will eventually end up in Ukraine. This can probably be taken as a hard no, as well as a confirmation of the refusal on the assistance Umerov had asked for.


The USA has “publicly” called on Ukraine to lower the mobilization age to 18. There have been quite a few articles on the subject over the past few days, but I am going to quote this one from the FP to reference a few other quotations.


Ukraine should “look hard at the ages of individuals that they are willing to recruit, balancing the need to invest in future generations with the current requirements of the battlefield”, the senior US official said.

Ukraine has said it needs 160,000 soldiers to fill out its ranks, which the US sees as “on the low end”, the official said.


I wonder what the baseline is that they are coming from. From all the reports that I saw in the past long while, I’d agree with the assessment above.

“Let there be no speculation — our state is not preparing to lower the mobilisation age,” President Volodymyr Zelenskyy told parliament last week.

Zelenskyy’s office on Thursday strongly pushed back against the US request and sought to shift the blame on delays in the supply of western weaponry.

“Ukraine cannot be expected to compensate for delays in logistics or hesitation in support with the youth of our men on the frontline,” said Dmytro Lytvyn, the top communications adviser to the Ukrainian president.


While the former is pretty clear and the reasons behind it, the latter would be quite “sensational” otherwise, but with Ukraine it isn’t. I mean a country claiming to be fighting an existential war refusing to mobilize men (most of whom would go to a great length to avoid being mobilized) blames others who don’t owe them a thing and, moreover, because of whom the country still exists in the first place. The response, really, should be “Ok, then”. I mentioned it several times previously, but this tone and expectations are rather ludicrous given the situation the country is in. Another article mentioned Blinken (I think) saying that if they mobilize more men, the US would train them and so on (take it as a hearsay since I do not have a link handy). Kirby suggested as much and quoted in this article as well:

While the Biden administration has eventually approved many of Kyiv’s requests for weapons and given permission to use them inside Russia, officials believe this will not be enough to have a decisive impact.

US national security adviser Jake Sullivan last week said: “Our view has been that there’s not one weapon system that makes a difference in this battle. It’s about manpower, and Ukraine needs to do more, in our view, to firm up its lines in terms of the number of forces it has on the front lines.”

US National Security Council spokesperson John Kirby on Wednesday said Washington was “ready to ramp up our training capacity if they take appropriate steps to fill out their ranks”.


Basically we are escalating for no good reason. This article at the Defense News talks about this escalation with no real returns as far as Ukraine is concerned.


UK’s Spectator talks the same:


This CNN article, another one of many, that interviewed some soldiers at the frontline talks about shortage of men:


“I cannot say exactly how much time we have, if there is any time at all,” said Kashei, a callsign, a reconnaissance sniper. “Now they are pushing their troops to the frontline as much as possible. And then at one point they will all go for an assault. They can go very far. In one day, let’s say.[…]

The drone crew skip through their video library of the past weeks’ costly and chaotic withdrawals. There is the moment when three Ukrainian troops walk into a factory in Selydove a month earlier, advised it is under Ukrainian control, only for one of them to be shot down by Russians occupying the building.[…]

Recruitment brings its own issues. The defense of Selydove, one commander said, was bolstered by 300 fresh recruits, sent to the frontline directly and expected to undergo basic training in the trenches. Errors by command are increasing, several soldiers said, sharing an episode in which a unit of Ukrainian soldiers was attacked by drones on the frontline, after two Ukrainian commanders mistakenly failed to identify them.[…]

Mistakes are commonplace in the chaos and horror of a battlefield, yet this openness and candor is rare from troops who a year earlier would have spoken with fierce pride about Ukraine’s summer counteroffensive in Russia’s Kursk region.

“I have no people. I’m f**king alone. I’m f**king tired,” said Kotia, a callsign, another reconnaissance sniper. “I love my job, but we need other young people to love this job too. Our country is awake, but people in it are not. Guys are dying here. This is trash.”[…]


What they say about the Russian troops:

East, the drone commander, said he was assigned to the area in August. “During this time, we have never gone to the training grounds or replenished our personnel,” he said. The Russians “are constantly staffed, constantly trained, there are certain rotations, replenishment of personnel. We constantly hear about it from intercepts, that they have replacements and rotations.”

Other interesting tidbits from the article:

One commander told CNN that troops around Pokrovsk had been ordered to shoot unidentified persons on sight, in fear of Russian reconnaissance groups advancing.[…]

A drone video circulating shows a small house on the edges of Petrivka, a village closeto Pokrovsk, on November 13. The footage shows a local in an orange shirt, guiding advancing Russian troops to a basement where Ukrainian soldiers were hiding.


Frankly, I have no idea what the thought process is currently and how this is supposed to suddenly turn around.

This article discusses various proposed “peace” and otherwise “cease-fire” plans:


Most make zero sense. For example, the Germany scenario after the WW2. Completely different aims in the entirely different perspective. Israel type of scenario makes even less sense provided the scope of the conflict and the size and “quality” of the threat. And so on.

It appears that there is a “crackdown” taking place on the AWOL folks. The fellas are offered to return to their units until January 1 and “the salary payments will resume” as well as other subsidies and “social guarantees”. The article doesn’t talk about the “or else” part and I didn’t look into it further (my guess is there is none).


A recent Financial Times article reported that the AWOL is now reaching 18% of the enlisted personnel (I do not have the link handy, so take it as a hearsay).

An AP article talks about desertion:


Zelensky now talks about “giving up” land for NATO membership:


Good luck! Some suggest that there is a “consensus”. There isn’t, clearly.
 

Feanor

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Russian troops had either crossed back the river or were pushed back. The area is back under the Ukrainian control/grey zone.

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Source: x.com. Deepstate and much of everyone else state the same.
Maybe. The second crossing is a lot larger and took the high ground with a small forest. So it would in principle be easier to hold.

Russians have been inside Toretsk since the end of summer. There is nothing unclear about that. I do not remember exactly, but Wikipedia says they entered the city on August 22.


Per Deepstate, this is what it looks like today:

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Russia has controlled half of the city since about October or so. There has been some back and forth, but they pushed Ukrainians out of the areas they recaptured for a brief period of time.
The big current question is the state of the refuse mounds in the center. Some sources indicate Russia has taken one or both mounds but there is no clarity. Suriyakmaps has them contested. If Russia manages to take and hold it, it will change the entire dynamic. If they can't, they will remain stalled.
 

rsemmes

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Kalibrated is the only one I have been able to see giving both mounds as in Russian hands.

'Although NATO has stated that Ukraine's path to membership is "irreversible", the alliance has not set a date or issued an invitation. Diplomats said there was currently no consensus among its 32 members to do so.'
The "consensus" seems to be in not having a consensus or an ad calendas graecas consensus.
 

Feanor

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Kalibrated is the only one I have been able to see giving both mounds as in Russian hands.

'Although NATO has stated that Ukraine's path to membership is "irreversible", the alliance has not set a date or issued an invitation. Diplomats said there was currently no consensus among its 32 members to do so.'
The "consensus" seems to be in not having a consensus or an ad calendas graecas consensus.
Topwar claims the entire mine complex is in Russian hands. Suriyakmaps currently shows both mounds contested. It's just not clear. Meanwhile it seems Russian forces have taken almost all of the mid-rises in the center of Toretsk and are advancing in northern Toretsk, expanding the area of control in the houses past the stadium. If the information about the fall of both of the central refuse mounds turns out to be correct, then Toretsk is pretty much done. On a side note I've been less than impressed with Kalibrated recently, as they simply haven't shown any Russian reverses pretty much at all.

 
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KipPotapych

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Maybe. The second crossing is a lot larger and took the high ground with a small forest. So it would in principle be easier to hold.
You are probably correct. I actually thought that the Novomlynsk crossing was the larger one and expanding. The Russians (reportedly) also took the hill there, as well as the only known trench on that hill.

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Source: x.com

I believe we have the Ukrainian flag planting (rather a planted flag) in Novomylsk itself -> the assumption that the area was likely abandoned by the Russians. I now see that some still have it marked as partially controlled by the Russian forces. And Deepstate has the second crossing marked in red still as well:

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Quite an advance (relatively speaking) in Chasiv Yar:

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A picture demonstrating the demographic situation in Ukraine pre- and post-invasion:

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The question here is whether those 20-45 year old women who left with their 0-19 year old children will come back to the country when the war is over or their men will join them wherever they are. The latter is significantly more likely, in my opinion. Some will probably move on with their lives before that happens too. Pretty sad picture any way you look at it. Then consider this in addition to the above:

Shocking statistic by General Sir Jim Hockenhull - a top British commander: There are more Ukrainian amputees as a result of Russia's war "than there are service personnel in the British Army".

Source: x.com
 

Feanor

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Topwar claims the entire mine complex is in Russian hands. Suriyakmaps currently shows both mounds contested. It's just not clear. Meanwhile it seems Russian forces have taken almost all of the mid-rises in the center of Toretsk and are advancing in northern Toretsk, expanding the area of control in the houses past the stadium. If the information about the fall of both of the central refuse mounds turns out to be correct, then Toretsk is pretty much done. On a side note I've been less than impressed with Kalibrated recently, as they simply haven't shown any Russian reverses pretty much at all.

A couple of days later and there is still no clarity on the situation with the mine complex and refuse mounds in Toretsk. There appear to be ongoing clashes and Ukrainian counter-attacks are reported. There is also Russian presence in the refuse mounds area. It's possible neither side actually controls them at this time.
 

Fredled

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Not a lot of change these last days. On top of that we are all busy watching what happens in Syria.
Summary of the summary from Heinrich Torsten:
Pokrovsk: Russians are coming closer to the town from the south. Took Shevshenko and Novopustynka.
It's important because the front line has not moved toward Pokrovsk for a while. Russian could have found a breach,
Kurakhove: North of the reservoir, Russians are about to close the pocket, fill the last gaps. They took (or entered) Santsivka and Stary Terny. South of the reservoir, Russian are closing the grip on the other pocket by taking Uspenivka in the north west, Konstantinopolskie in the south west and Romanivka in the east of the pocket. According to maps, some Ukrainians should still be defending Hannivka (between Konstantinopolskie iand Romanivka) and if true, will be encircled soon. However there is no evidence that they have not withdrew yet at the time of writing. The Russian MoD claims to have encircled 1500 Ukrainian soldiers there. If there were that many, there would be no way that Russian would encircle them, but they would be encircled by Ukrainians. IMO the number is closer to 150 than 1500.
Elsewhere: Fighting continues along all the front line. That the front doesn't move most of the line doesn't mean that the area is peaceful. Russians are still shelling Kherson and Zhaporizhia or their vicinity.
 

Feanor

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Update.

Chernigov area.

Russian SoF raided into the region taking out two Ukrainian bridges. It's unclear what the purpose is. Note the location of the bridges is nowhere near the Russian incursion into this region that took place earlier. Perhaps the intent is to isolate another piece of the region and then take it over.


Kursk area.

Ukrainian forces have broken into Pogrebki while Russian forces have recaptured Plekhovo and crossed the Psel river approaching Guevo.


Russian wire-guided drone strikes a Ukrainian 2S1 howitzer or decoy in Kursk region.


Russian drones taking out a Leo-2A6 near Dar'ino. We have footage from different angles.


Russia hits another Leo-2A6 and T-64 in Kursk region.


Russian drone strike on a Ukrainian T-64BV in Kursk region. It hits the front of the turret though the angle is downward. We don't see the aftermath.


A series of Russian wire-guided drone strikes on Ukrainian Bradleys.


Russian drone strike apparently hitting a Ukrainian Pbv302 in Kursk region.


Ukraine's 48th Engineers are using a Humvee to carry a remote minelayer launcher, but it gets hit by a Russian drone. This is the Kursk border area.


Smoke rises after a Russian strike on Yunakovka, Sumy region.


Knocked out Ukrainian vehicles, a YPR-765 and a Kozak armored car.


A knocked out Ukrainian AIFV-B-C25 near Dar'ino.


A knocked out Cougar 6X6 MRAP in Kursk region, Ukrainian. A unknown quantity of these was delivered to Ukraine and they were only shown shortly prior to the entry into Kursk region where some have been lost.


Ukraine has sent their Pbv 302s to Sumy, we have a sighting of the artillery control vehicle EPBV 3022. Note the anti-drone cages.


A rare Russian Tayfun-VDV with it's 30mm autocannon in Kursk region.


Kharkov area.

Apparently a failed Ukrainian attack near Glubokoe. Two IFVs are taken out by drones, Russian drones then hunt the survivors in the ruins with munition-drops.


Russian D-30 operations near Volchansk. We can see the new Russian domestic artillery shells.


Kupyansk area.

Russian forces made two crossings over the Oskol, one smaller one north of Dvurechnoe near Novomlynsk, and the other south. The north one was subsequently recaptured by Ukraine.


A knocked out Ukrainian BMP-1 finished off by a grenade-drop into the open hatch near Kupyansk.


Russian rope-boat crossing of the Oskol allegedly near Dvurechnoe. Note Russia made two crossings, one of them repelled, and both can be described as "near Dvurechnoe" so I don't know which one this is.


Oskol front.

Russian forces have expanded the salient around Peschanoe southward, and have advanced around Lozovoe, as well as south of it towards Zeleniy Gay.


Allegedly Russian soldiers capturing 4 Ukrainian POWs near Kopanki.


A knocked out Ukrainian Strv122 near Terny. Note these tanks were used in counter-attacks earlier this year and we had footage of them getting hit.


Seversk salient.

Russian bomb strikes landing in Belogorovka, using allegedly FAB-250s. Note this indirectly confirms Ukrainian presence in Belgorovka.


Russian bomb strike in Nikiforovka, Seversk salient area.

 

Feanor

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Chasov Yar.

Russian forces now control part of the factory complex in the center of Chasov Yar.


A Ukrainian Snatch Land Rover destroyed near Chasov Yar.


Toretsk.


It appears Russian forces have taken at least one of the two main refuse mounds in the center of Toretsk. The fate of the second one remains unclear. Ukrainian counter-attacks are reported. Meanwhile Russian forces have also pushed northward in the fields west of Nelepovka, approaching Leonidovka from the south-west.


Pokrovsk area.

Russian forces south of Pokrovsk have made substantial gains to the west and north-west of Selidovo. If the push continues it can potentially threaten the roads west out of Pokrovsk. However as before they will need to secure their flank and wide the salient. Russian forces have also pushed northward in the fields south of Dachenskoe indicating that they are ultimately aiming to capture Pokrovsk.


Russian drone strikes a Ukrainian locomotive, a little west of Pokrovsk. I believe this is the second such instance suggesting Ukraine is using trains for military logistics dangerously close to the front lines.


Russia finishing off a pair of BOV APCs near Pokrovsk.


9 Ukrainian POWs taken allegedly west of Selidovo in one of the villages.


In preparation for losing Mirnograd Ukrainian forces have reportedly blown the main mine shaft at Mirnograd.


Russian Tor-M1 operating in the Pokrovsk area. Note the extra armor panels. This might be the same one we saw near Avdeevka earlier this year.


Russian personnel evacuating remaining Ukrainian civilians from the village of Yurievka, west of Selidovo. The civilians express gratitude, and call Russian personnel heroes for evacuating. However, it's very likely that only the most pro-Russian civilians would remain in a war zone, in the path of Russian advance, to await Russian troops.


Kurakhovo area.

Starie Terny has fallen, giving Russia full control over the northern side of the Kurakhovo reservoir. It's not clear if it will be possible to cross the river and attack southward from there. Sontsovka is now mostly under Russian control but there still appears to be some Ukrainian presence on the western side of the village. Around the Sukhie Yaly river valley Russian forces have broken into Uspenovka and Konstantinopol'skoe (not to be confused with the Konstantinopol' just a little north-west of there) and have taken Sukhie Yaly the village. Ukrainian defenses here are fragmented if they still remain. Romanovka is fully under Russian control. inside Kurakhovo itself Russian forces have taken several areas in the center of towns including a piece of the mid-rise apartments, and have takes some fields south of the town north of Dal'nee.


A Russian strike on a Ukrainian vehicle of some kind, allegedly a 2S1 howitzer. It does appear to be hiding in the trees, though the tracks are a dead giveaway, and it does explode suggesting something carrying munitions got hit. This is near Andreevka, Kurakhovo area.


Some footage around the Kurakhovo dam area, no major flooding. The destroyed BTR appears to be Ukrainian.


A knocked out Ukrainian M113 near Kurakhovo.


Velikaya Novoselka area.

Russian forces broken into Noviy Komar but were then dislodged by a Ukrainian counter-attack. Meanhile south of Velikaya Novoselka Russia has taken Blagodatnoe. Russian forces are also advancing northward and eastward around the Rovnopol' area and have taken all of Novodarievka. Ukrainian logistics to this area are compromised. Technically two roads are open but both are awfully close to Russian lines.


A Russian drone drops a grenade into the open hatch of a Ukrainian M113. You can see the crew attempt to react but there isn't enough time.

 

Feanor

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Zaporozhye front.

A Ukrainian BMP is towing another one, likely knocked out. Russian strikes take out both vehicles. This is near Malaya Tokmachka north-north-east of Rabotino. Allegedly this is the aftermath of a failed Ukrainian attack.


Dnepr front.

Allegedly the destruction of a Ukrainian unmanned boat on the Dnepr.


Black Sea/Crimea.

Ukrainian unmanned boats were destroyed near Crimea.


Ukraine's use of unmanned boats continues to evolve, with some serving as launch platforms for FPV drones. They were used in a recent attack on Russian-held oil platforms in the Black Sea.


Russia used an unmanned boat to attack the Odessa port causing a fire. Target is unclear.


Strikes.

Russian strikes hit Shostka again in Sumy region. There's a major defense plant there but it's not clear if that's the target.


Russian strikes on Zaporozhye, allegedly targeting energy infrastructure.


Russian strike on allegedly a Ukrainian staging area near Ochakov, Nikolaev region. They can see Ukrainian military vehicles moving, and then use an Iskander.


A Russian near-miss in Odessa on the Ukrainian recon ship Simferopol'.


A great video of a Ukrainian Mi-8 doing an intercept of a Shahed drone. Note the drone is alone. It's not clear if this is intentional, as Ukraine has a limited-sized fleet of aircraft available for this kind of work. Also note they wait until the drone is not above a populated area to down it.


Two residential buildings were hit by Ukrainian drones in Bryansk region, an apartment building and a private house.


A new Ukrainian munition was recently shown off, something half-way between a drone and a missile, called Peklo.


A great illustration of the difference in damage between a SAM or a drone hitting a building and a Russian cruise or ballistic missile hitting a building.


Interesting bits.

Ukraine appears to have taken out a Russian Bulsae 6 ATGM carrier from the DPRK. We previously saw one being used in the Kursk border area.


Another use of Russia's Mole unmanned explosive drone. The last one we saw was near Velikaya Novoselka, no location on this one.


An interesting video of a Russian team using an unarmored transport near the front line. It's unclear if it's an assault team as the description claims or just a troop rotation, but it's further evidence that Russian forces are running low on light armor vehicles.


Russian Gibka-S SAMs have shown up in the war. This is a Igla-S module (unclear if it can use Verba) mountd on a Tigr-M armored car. Modern Russian MANPADS can engage UAVs and presumably this is their main target. It's unlikely Ukrainian jets or helos would be that close to the front lines.


A Russian BTR-80 carrying a 2B9 automatic mortar over the turret. This is another example of how Russian forces contort themselves into weird shapes due ot a lack of proper self-propelled mortars. I don't know why Russia doesn't at least produce the 2S23 Nona-SVK.


A Russian BMP-1AM with the extra armor kit and a roof cage. By the standards of this war practically a modern vehicle.


Ukraine's 37th Marines continue to operate their AMX-10RCs as erzats artillery.


Allegedly a high quality Ukrainian HIMARS decoy. Personally I can't tell if this is a decoy or a real vehicle.


Reportedly Ukraine got their second batch of Danish F-16s.


Ukraine has apparently integrated French guided bombs on their Su-25s.

 

Fredled

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Feanor said:
Reportedly Ukraine got their second batch of Danish F-16s.
On the picture posted by Ukrinform there are only two F16's visible. However there could be more.


Feanor said:
Ukraine's 37th Marines continue to operate their AMX-10RCs as erzats artillery.
Why "erzats" artillery. Why can't it be normal artillery?

Feanor said:
A new Ukrainian munition was recently shown off, something half-way between a drone and a missile, called Peklo.
Zelinsky talked about it a few weeks ago without showing anything. Now they showed something that looks like the longer range version of the Palienitsa. But they did't have used it yet.
 
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