What should be PAF strategy if India Attacks?

[gf0012-aust]

This nuclear option is not something that one can calculate the after effects in black and white, just like that.

Exactly, radiation fallout does not recognise borders, there would be a few unhappy neighbouring countries that would be very unimpressed with bits of their countries being radiated.

It is one reason why I see that North Korea (as an example) will be controlled as much as possible by the Chinese - they do not want the effects of a US retaliatory strike (unintentionaly and inadvertently) drifting across the border

China, Russia, Afghanistan, Iran, Turkey etc... all would be more than a little cranky at the spillage from an Indo-Pakistani spat.

 

[corsair7772]

sirri, no jokes about nukes but what makes you so sure that pakistan would readily nuke india for the loss of a few cities even if there lahore or hyderabad. We have a lot of cool heads up there ever since the 71 conflict which showed our limits. India may have a second strike but we ours is last strike. Tactical nukes however are another story but let me assure you that our nuclear strike ability is well defined and is more controlled than india's. Dont be fooled by what everyonr blabbers on TV

 

[srirangan]

I'm not sayin Pak would nuke India ... I was replyin to Salman's proposal that Pak should nuke India ..

Ofcourse I understand the fall out of nukes, but do you really believe that India wouldn't nuke back if Pak nukes us?

 

[srirangan]

but let me assure you that our nuclear strike ability is well defined and is more controlled than india's

Yeah okay .. :lolol

 

[corsair7772]

Its nuthin to laugh about. You should read more about nuclear policies rather than Subhramans philosopihes on survivng a nuclear war which are completely crap. You dont survive a nuclear war by hiding in trenches and mudholes. You should realize that nations die out just like men...

However go through these links and youll know why i dont support nukes in either my own country or anyother.

http://www.nrdc.org/nuclear/southasia.asp

http://www.cdi.org/blair/nuclear-folly.cfm

http://www.heritage.org/Research/NationalSecurity/WM104.cfm

PS i think you should make another thread for this. Were deviating from the topic.

 

[srirangan]

I was just laughin at myst's same ol' rant: "everythin Pak has is better than India's" .. sometimes he just says it out of compultion than actually looking at the actualities

yes we are going off topic, I'll stop

Cheers!

 

[srirangan]

Better to live on than die, look atJapan. Anyway I'm not supporting or advocating a nuke conflict. I was just replying to Salman's scenario.

 

[lalith prasad]

u can survive nuclear blast by hiding deep underground unless the weapon in question ia an ion bomb.

 

[Salman78]

I prefer not to reply to individual posts especially if they r posted by ignorant ppl who post with an attitude of "If you disagree with me, you are wrong". My messege was taken completely out of context since ignorance prevents any useful input from one's brain...

Once again, India wont attack Pakistan just because it can and if they ever do, our policy would be to end the conflict as soon as possible & inflict maximum damage....

The threat of an imminent incoming nuclear strike works very well. it has kept NATO/EU safe for 50 years from Soviet invasion which numerically outnumbered NATO by leaps...

As for Pakistan's conventional and nuclear strike capability. It's not as bad as one might think. We have a decent air and surface strike potential and when it comes to nuclear strike it would once again be foolish to assume that we will keep all our eggs in the same basket. A lot of shaheen and ghouri's would be dispersed all over the country. take out a few and there still be others left for 2nd or even 3rd strike.

Assuming RAW/Indian military has enough common sense to figure this out. Will Indians ever attack Pakistan in the first place ? i dont think so. We are very much capable of hitting back hard. Just because we never did and never want to dosnt mean we r not capable of.

Last word... A few more years and PAF will have aircraft equipped with BVR missiles and that alone will put any nasty indian ambitions to deep sleep.

Ok.. Final word... Statistics!!! One needs to check the kill to loss ratio of 65 and 71 wars and in both wars pakistan's airforce outclassed IAF. Keeping our pilot traning and decipline in mind.. India has no chance...

Happy daydreaming :cry

 

[XEROX]

Pakistan once used to have the qualitative edge over the skies but not anymore and maybe never again???

 

[yasin_khan]

PJ-10
U r totally wrong any thing is possible in this world if u got money and luck.ya it is truth that we Pakistanis have lack of money,our GDP increases slowly but in luck we r the best.i want to give u an example.
"In 70s we got only F-6,Mirage III and some absolute F-86, but by the good luck,Pakistan became the front line state to counter Soviets in Afghanistan and got state of art F-16 fighting falcon"
Pakistan is now also Non NATO Ally and will get some good stuf from USA and Western Countries. :smokingc:

 

[XEROX]

what the f-22??

 

[XEROX]

Comapred to the IAF pak doesnt have much intercation with modern aircraft and its training (hours) are lesser !!

 

[yasin_khan]

PJ-10
thats why every week 1 or 2 IAF planes crashed.

 

[XEROX]

dude the planes that crashed "once or twice a week" where shit, have a look at it, they were extreamly old and Obsolete

 

[XEROX]

If the PAF had that kind of aircraft im sure the same would have happened!!

 

[yasin_khan]

PJ-10
only two things come first bad trainings and second maintanence.

 

[mysterious]

Yasin is right PJ-10. First of all, Mig-21 is a quite difficult aircraft to fly (you need real good skills to be able to handle that baby); secondly maintainance has been a nice issue with 'em in IAF and last but not the least, a good deal of crashes have happened cuz of rookie pilots being told to take a trip in the 'flying coffins'. :cop

 

[corsair7772]

Keep on under estimating the IAF and itll be you needing first line maintenance.

I thought ud have more sense than looking down on the IAF. Hate to break it to you kiddo but its not only PAF pilots that go abroad to train arabs. In Iraq while we were training there interceptors low altitude tactics the IAf was teaching their strike aircraft hi level tactics. Similarly while we were flying Libya's Su-24s the indians were working on the infra structure. And its true that the IAF has been badly immobalized due to old equpiment and lack of spares because the problem of spares from russia still presist and HAL has only recently begun rebuilding the Mig-21s. ANd india is about to start working on some of the best aircraft in the world such as the Su-30 and M-2000 and could possibly even induct Su-37s or F-22s a few years later. Backed by this would be an awesome infra structure and industrail and technical ability not to mention lots of experience fyling aganst ISraelis and USAF.

 

[XEROX]

exellently said!!!