What should be PAF strategy if India Attacks?

[mysterious]

Its better if the Navy's role is not discussed for now because as soon as Gwadar comes up, the strategy of PN would change as the bulk of trade that goes through Karachi would shift to Gwadar. This means, Indian Navy will have a hard time cutting off Gwadar (which was not the case with Karachi as its too close to Indian waters) and so it gives PN more time and chance to bolster its defenses as far as my thinking goes. :smokingc:

 

[yasin_khan]

if we attack first then tere will be agressive role of navy to neutrilize Indian navy and agusta 90b will do good job.it will do best if PAF covers them. :smokingc:

 

[Oqaab]

In order to counter India PAF should,

1. Acquire long range SAMs(ABMs). FT-2000 anti-radiation missile is a good option.

2. Try to grab AWACS instead of negotiating for 4th generation fighters. PAF has 2 billion to buy western fighters and countries like France or Brasil will not hesitate to sell their AWACS systems(Airbus or EBM-145) if we offer this amount.

3. All aircrafts operational and battle-ready. Even jet trainers like FT-5s and FT-6s.

4. All the bombs, missiles and ammu should be made available.

 

[yasin_khan]

oqaab u r right.
first long range sams are needed like ft-2000.
secondly AWACs are also neede like e-3 sentry if possible otherwise e-2 hawkey.
thirdly fourth generation fighter is also neede to counter mig 29s , su 30 mkis so jas 39 grippen ,rafle a\c ,ef-2000,j-10 etc should be inducted in PAF.
last that tainings of pilot should be done perfectly.

 

[P.A.F]

like i said before. the strategy should be
Hit First, Hit Hard And Keep On Hitting[/b]

 

[VICTORA1]

Guys,
A couple of years ago "POPULAR SCIENCE" reported that somehow Pakistan got the EMP weapons through some of the students(graduated) working in the UCLA labs in so california. It was initially thought that high vulneability targets could be protected by faraday cages, but the indian researchers found out that late emp effect could be as destructive as the initial blast.

An effective device would be a great force multiplier for pakistan as was observed in the not too recent stand off between the two neighbours.

 

[corsair7772]

You people arent taking into conideration the fact that our wartime fighting ability lasts for 4 weeks. Pronto. We cant afford to hit n keep hittin hard. Unless were gettin supplies from china which are likely to come by air via gilgit.

 

[P.A.F]

your wrong there. Pakistan is garrantied to get help from the arabs as well. and chinese aid would come from the karakurum express way and via air. :smokingc:

 

[yasin_khan]

PAF is right that we will get economical and material aid from both China and Arabs.
:smokingc:

 

[Soldier]

PAF is right that we will get economical and material aid from both China and Arabs.
:smokingc:

That is the most poor statement PAF. You can not go to war thinking that you will get supplies from your friends. A nation has to be prepared for war depending upon its own strength and stocks. You can never be sure of supplies as political scenario in wartimes is totally different then in peacetime.

 

[adsH]

PAF is right that we will get economical and material aid from both China and Arabs.
:smokingc:

That is the most poor statement PAF. You can not go to war thinking that you will get supplies from your friends. A nation has to be prepared for war depending upon its own strength and stocks. You can never be sure of supplies as political scenario in wartimes is totally different then in peacetime.

No soldier when ever India goes to war it relies on its reserves crude oil supply and the traditionally the Arabs (Iraq, Saddam in Particular). Pakistan Has relied on two main sources one is Saudi and the second is Iran. the weapon supplies if need be comes from China. this is the type of support they need if an Event such as a war occurs. UAE i guess would not supply either since it wants to be neutral. Even the US relied on its regional Allies/supplier in the Iraq war to replenish there supplies of Food and Fuel, i know the US Armed forces are very particular in what they feed there Forces (with good reasons) but i guess British forces have a Tendency to make the most of where they're stationed ie using whatever is available locally.

 

[P.A.F]

also india would rely on russia in war time.

 

[corsair7772]

your wrong there. Pakistan is garrantied to get help from the arabs as well. and chinese aid would come from the karakurum express way and via air. :smokingc:

hehe i think your talkin about the 1970s and 80s amigo when libya was gonna send mirages and the other arabs there F-5s. The F-5s could have been inducted quickly because our pilots and engineers had experience on them when they handled them during there postings. But in those dayz pakistan was something of a muslim hero cuz of its bomb program and everyone wanted a slice of it. But now they dont. Most of them are at peace, bankrupt, already having a detterent or just plain uninterested. You cant expect more than a trickle of aid from them although ur rite in saying well get financial and diplomatic support and some small military aid (rmmbr the indian rumour of Saudis sending their F-15s and E-3s to support pakistan :roll ).

As for china there are only hope if there transports dont get blasted out of the air by the IAF or if the Karakoram highway isnt busted by IAF strikes (its very easy to block mountain passes). As for shipping, you guyz are damn smart and already know that the IN is a problem here not counting the IAF again. India is growing confident everyday of its abilities thanks to growing cooperation wid israel and US as well as billions of dollars worth of new equipment. Also Chinese equipment is different from Pakistani one. Take the A-5 and F-7 for example. They both have different weapons suits from the PLAAF fighters of same type. Evn the Jf-17 will have different systems and so will the J-10 if its inducted. But i suppose your right when it comes to Army equipment which should be similar in a way. As for PN, the missiles used by both sides should be the same and so should a few other items but basically its going to be a rough ride for them too.

This is an excellent topic to some research and analysis for defense analysts like us. We really should study the possibilty of integrating AEW or MP systems or Fighters of chinese origin into Pakistani armed forces in a very short time. :smokingc:

 

[XEROX]

The Indian and Iranian goverment are showing great rapour, gas and oil from iran would not be objected to in war time

But Pak would always Blockade it!!

 

[XEROX]

though hasnt India already negotiated with Iran and Russia, the construction of a North-South corridor that can be used for sending Indian goods to Central Asia via Iran

 

[P.A.F]

oh and one more point. you know the gwadar port. that can help pakistan quite alot because it has got trains leadin to not only china but also afganistan & uzbekistan or some country like that. hey aid can now come via 3 different ways and i'm sure the SAM sites and PAF can protect them. well at least one then : . and even if we don't get that much help we have got our last restort and i'm sure the pakistanis know what that is :smokingc: . all we need now is a jet which could easily smash the su-30MKI. somin like the Jas-39 and then the PAF will be sorted for another 5-10 years after inductin that aircraft.

 

[XEROX]

Do you think the Jas-39 can "smash" the SU-30MKI :?:

 

[P.A.F]

definately. better avionics and sub systems etc... anyways if you wanna discuss this then lets do it in another thread. i'll make one.

 

[XEROX]

ok lets

 

[Soldier]

oh and one more point. you know the gwadar port. that can help pakistan quite alot because it has got trains leadin to not only china but also afganistan & uzbekistan or some country like that. hey aid can now come via 3 different ways and i'm sure the SAM sites and PAF can protect them. well at least one then : . and even if we don't get that much help we have got our last restort and i'm sure the pakistanis know what that is :smokingc: . all we need now is a jet which could easily smash the su-30MKI. somin like the Jas-39 and then the PAF will be sorted for another 5-10 years after inductin that aircraft.

Too much of wishful thinking PAF... You are hinting towards nuclear scenario. I do not think Pakistani leaders will be foolish enough to press nuclear button in a limited war or unless they realize that India is going to outright dis-integrate Pakistan, as that will be totally suicidal for Pakistan, so forget about Nuclear standoffs as that s never gonna happen. I do not think there will be a war but if there will be it will be limited war to reduce other to an extent where it is no more a threat for a decade or more. And in that it is going to be the superior Arms, ammuniation, training which is going to play the major role. In that scenario, I do not think Pakistan has currently anything in their arsenal to fight India off. No amount of strategy will work in favor of Pakistan in the current scenario, unless Pakistani forces are upgraded sooner then soonest.