What should be PAF strategy if India Attacks?
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Indians have some problems with Pakistani Nuclear Missiles or Weapons or they are just jealous of us.They dont want to hear that we have nuclear bomb.I know that if Pakistani armed forces are destroyed and there would be no other way to neutrilize or end the war then Pakistan will definantely use their nuclear weapons.these weapons are developed for defense of Pakistan.and we also know that India is a big country and 5-10 nuclear bombs will do nothing and if India strikes back she will destroy our major cities.but HUM TU DOBEIN GA SANAM TUM KO BHI LAY DOBEIN GAY :cop
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your strategy is good its esay to hit first but its hard to keep on hitting.
Pakistan is not in position to take air superiority.ANd they have not enough reserves to keep on hitting. :cop
your strategy is good its esay to hit first but its hard to keep on hitting.
Pakistan is not in position to take air superiority.ANd they have not enough reserves to keep on hitting. :cop
lol man you have no idea how well india has fortified its main bases. Ask Pj-10 to give you a link on that. In case you didnt know the PAF has adopted a strategy of hittin important transportation links instead of airbases. Indian Airbases have very strong shelters and modern techniques of recovering from an attack in a few moments. Gone are the traditional techniques of runway repair teams. And i am NOT counting the factors which AEW systems, Deadly interceptors, complex radar networks, satellite imagery and all that include. Were not even going to have enough strike aircraft until 2012 or something. India will keep all its new modern aircraft in the best of fortifications. Besides allocating moern sam systems for fixes defence of its airbases its ability to react even if we get a strike going would be devastating. What would happen if we run into a patriot or S-300 at one of those bases? Its very sensible of the PAF to concentrate more on communication targets as this would considerably slow down indian mobilization. In a short war its not about how many troops you have but how many you commit on the battle front.
PS i did NOT mention that the PAF doesnt even have enough precision munitions to attack airbases, there all gonna be commited to attacks on armour and comm targets and maybe industrial as well. What are you gonna take on pathankot with, Iron bombs?
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PS i did NOT mention that the PAF doesnt even have enough precision munitions to attack airbases, there all gonna be commited to attacks on armour and comm targets and maybe industrial as well. What are you gonna take on pathankot with, Iron bombs?
:As I said earlier, PAF and SABER, no amount of strategy is going to work in Pakistan's favor unless Pakistan inducts some latest weaponary in its airforce, Navy & Land forces. BTW I would hate to see war between two in my lifetime at least. I have been to Pakistan and I love the people there too. If you forget about the religion, everything is bloody same.
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new technology is one factor but the most important factor for paf would be to be able to coordinate with army or navy if it wants to acheive even some form of initial success against india. more than the technology of the iaf paf needs to worry about iaf's ability to fight a coordinated war with its army and navy.one way would be to destroy the communication links.pakistan needs to concentrate on a comprehensive ew capability.
Were working on the EW thing. The chinese have some very good Jamming and Jamming resistant systems but very crude surveillance and counter measure systems. Technology isnt going to decide a war anymore; the indians have already won the technology race. Were going to have to use cunningness and good strategy and can afford nothing less. And lalith, its communication targets the PAF will concentrate on and i can assure you that this is an objective which we can acheive substantial success in. We already have a factory converting 2000lb bombs to precision munitions and along with the Amercan systems and under-evaluation chinese precision munitions. wed have an arsenal of precision guided bombs to be reckoned with. :smokingc:
Lalith , excellent analysis, and suggestion , realy the PAF should worry about making such a coordination so as to defend its frontiers and then make a punch to hit back , untill and unless it does not have this coordination it will remain over stretched in the excercise of her roles, any such efficient coordination will share it burdone and will then make it able to performs its tasks to the best of its capabiliteis,
I heard that they do have such a plateform from whr the joint operations are carried out, i mean planned rehearsed and then executed but they need to make it more viable , :smokingc:
I heard that they do have such a plateform from whr the joint operations are carried out, i mean planned rehearsed and then executed but they need to make it more viable , :smokingc:
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To normalize the situation we need some new weapons and planes.
1. Jas 39 Grippen or EF 2000.
2. Long range SAMs like FT-2000 at least 10.
3. AWACs E2 Hawkeye or E3 Sentry.
4. Lots of well trained pilots.
5. All current Mirages upgraded to ROSE I-II.
6. Induction of JF-17 atleast 50 planes.
7. A CAS aircraft like A-10 Thunderbolt or SU-25.
I think with these all things Indian will not dare to attack on us.
Pakistan will easily attack Indian bases and lots of flying busses(SU-30 MKIs).
1. Jas 39 Grippen or EF 2000.
2. Long range SAMs like FT-2000 at least 10.
3. AWACs E2 Hawkeye or E3 Sentry.
4. Lots of well trained pilots.
5. All current Mirages upgraded to ROSE I-II.
6. Induction of JF-17 atleast 50 planes.
7. A CAS aircraft like A-10 Thunderbolt or SU-25.
I think with these all things Indian will not dare to attack on us.
Pakistan will easily attack Indian bases and lots of flying busses(SU-30 MKIs).
Here a list of factors explaining why we cant use dat list. Well the Gripen and Ef-2000 are abt as likely to entre service as F-18. No ones made a firm deal yet and frankly speaking i dont see how one would materialize ( my advice, see facts instead of newpapers). For SAMs u have to explain why uve chosen the FT-2000 here. Its designed to target AEW or electronic surveillance systems and is a large missile incapable of targetting small aircraft. 10 is too large a number if its AEW systems were only engaging. No way is the US selling us E-2 C or E-3 Sentry. While it might be possible that the E-2C would be cleared its not the same for the E-3 and i dont know why u even mentioned it in the first place. And a note about the E-2C, it has to be configured for specific roles. For example for martime or for land surveilance meaning that the PAF would not be able to let the PN make use of it. Also the E-2C cannot be used in mountain areas cuz of its ground clutter problem. So dats no martime and no kashmir. How in blazes are we supposed to cover our operations in our most important theatre than??? And one thing: Well trained pilots arent like crops or animals that they can be grown or bred. Careful training is required and youd still have a lot of bad eggs. And for cryin out aloud, the rose 1 or 2 is only to keep the mirages in the 3rd generation until the JF-17s bcum available. There no match for the Indian arsenal anyway, even if we can pay for all that in the first place. And 50 Jf-17s arent gonna stops 200 Mirages or Su-30s if the time frame ur talking about is 2010. And in anycase they be in interceptor version not the multirole one which comes after 2010. And even the interceptor one has its limits. The Grifo 7 is not really that good as it seems. IT LACKS MULTI TARGETTING CAPABILITY. And we dont need CAS aircraft like A-10 or Su-25 when were planning to use our K-8s for CAS quite sensibele due to resource restrictions. And in anycase the A-10 does not have the ability to fight off the Su-30 and we dont have the proper interceptors fr escorting them yet. Bang there goes ur expensive A-10 or watever. As if the indians are going to be scared of a few of CAS aircraft.
No offence if i was a bit hard there amigo.
No offence if i was a bit hard there amigo.
If India attacks Pakistan then we would have very few choices. Sending in our attact aircraft to target their bases would yield few results with heavy losses. All PAF aircraft are good only for point defence.
Best strategy would be to win time, avoid direct contact :help and show a live video feed of our ballistic missiles being readied for a full fledged nuclear strike on major cities and bases. :cop That would definitly work .
Best strategy would be to win time, avoid direct contact :help and show a live video feed of our ballistic missiles being readied for a full fledged nuclear strike on major cities and bases. :cop That would definitly work .
Salman78,
Your nuke threat strike might work in the reverse. India has second strike capability, and if she's hit, her retaliation will cause the dismemberment of Pakistan.
Remember we can take a hit and survive, you can't. And PAK will have no sympathy left in the RoW if she uses nukes first, India has a no first use doctrine in place.
Your nuke threat strike might work in the reverse. India has second strike capability, and if she's hit, her retaliation will cause the dismemberment of Pakistan.
Remember we can take a hit and survive, you can't. And PAK will have no sympathy left in the RoW if she uses nukes first, India has a no first use doctrine in place.
Guys,
You people need to read this article in POPULAR MECHANICS I believe that of september 2001 issue regarding emp---the pakistan and india connection. After you read that article, most of your theories would fizzle out.
Srirangan, If pakistan does not make the first strike, it is gone. If pakistan makes the first strike it is gone. It is a no win stuation for pakistan. As for the second strike indian capability, as a paklistani, I would say that atleast our misery is over---we are wasteland---population gone---but on the other hand india will have to live with the glow of radiation for a century to come to whatever is left over. This nuclear option is not something that one can calculate the after effects in black and white, just like that.
You people need to read this article in POPULAR MECHANICS I believe that of september 2001 issue regarding emp---the pakistan and india connection. After you read that article, most of your theories would fizzle out.
Srirangan, If pakistan does not make the first strike, it is gone. If pakistan makes the first strike it is gone. It is a no win stuation for pakistan. As for the second strike indian capability, as a paklistani, I would say that atleast our misery is over---we are wasteland---population gone---but on the other hand india will have to live with the glow of radiation for a century to come to whatever is left over. This nuclear option is not something that one can calculate the after effects in black and white, just like that.
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