actually i think emp weapons do exist russians displayed images of the ranet-e and rosa-e bombs.the russian s-19msta howitzer is capable of firing an emi shell to disrupt enemy electronics.india has kali10000(testflown but india is strugling to reduce its size from 10tons to 1tons it is currently being tested on the il76 platform).
What should be PAF strategy if India Attacks?
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I think its pretty evident from PAF's earlier responses what PAF strategy is in the event of an Indian attack. Its about holding your own airspace superiority and inflicting heavy casualties on the opposing force while not really venturing much in to enemy airspace cuz of the defensive strategy. Aggression is not what Pakistani forces train for in the first place.
Sometimes best Defense is Offence, you would expect PAF Fighters Bombers like the Rose M3 M5 And the Vipers, would be utilized to INtrude Deep into IAF territory to Take out Weapon production facility, maintenance facilities, Ports Etc. these are strategies that the Military Leaders set out in there plans. I'm sure Both side have such plans. there are always Gaps in radar coverage that are up for exploitation. there will always be hidden strategies the enemy might decide to use. its the way things work.mysterious said:
H4 H2 standoff missiles have been inducted in PAF inventory, the M3 M5 ROSE are undergoing Overhaul and Upgrade (french Lead) so all new Fire Controlls NAV systems, EW stuff on each of the 120+ Mirages in PAF inventory. the MICA SCALP EG AKA BLACK SHAHEEN AKA STORM SHADOW, may be made available to the ROSE M3 M5. personally i would perfer using the Shadow its my favorite RAF used it in a pilot runn in GWII , and was very happy with the results. the SCALP EG is similar equally Stealthy and Terrain Mapping GPS and inertial GUIdance system.with imaging infra-red seeker automatic target recognition (ATR) and tracking high precision terminal guidance recognising system. the Rage is around 250km. there is a reason why PAF is spending a big part of its Modernisation SUMM on these 120+ ROSE platfroms, PAF see's these AC OCST EFFECTIVE. its not always about what you fly, it usually about how you get the job done. ie Avionics, EW equipment, Missiles fired and the pilots that fly it. thats why the ISraeli IAF KFIR C2/C7 is still a potent AC.
i think IAF has the SU-30 to do the same job.
i think IAF has the SU-30 to do the same job.
at present if india attacked today and i was general
i would make f-16's and a few f-7s & K-8s as air defenders which don't enter indian airspace and only protect the pakistani borders. one third of the mirages would be switched to navy patrol and the rest along with the nanchang A-5C and f-7 would be used to attack. thats the way i see it anyway.
i would make f-16's and a few f-7s & K-8s as air defenders which don't enter indian airspace and only protect the pakistani borders. one third of the mirages would be switched to navy patrol and the rest along with the nanchang A-5C and f-7 would be used to attack. thats the way i see it anyway.Hence MultiRole AC. the only AC's that can effectively deliver and return without being shredded to pieces would be the Mirage-2000 and the SU-30, to the best of my knowledge they are are multirole AC's although the Mirages are aging too, they need the Mk2 2k5 upgrades.ajay_ijn said:
This was situation prevously(5-6 years ago) becoz of lack of ECM/Chaffs/flares.
Both Mig-21 and Mig-23 lacked effective Countermasures for defending against Enemy SAM's etc.
both are to be retired and Mig-27 is getting some good upgrades.
http://www.bharat-rakshak.com/IAF/Aircraft/Specs/index.html
And Jaguars too.
Its true that in today's war technology plays a very important role. Pakistan do have new generation aircrafts like F-16 and the one they are currently building (JF-7, I guess). But IAF seems to be more technologically advanced then PAF. Also quantity wise it is bigger then PAF.
I guess PAF can show some amount of resistance but not for long.
I have read somewhere that IAF can take control of Pakistan air within 72 hours.
Hence Pakistan will have to depend more on its army and its nuclear missiles to defend themselves.
I guess PAF can show some amount of resistance but not for long.
I have read somewhere that IAF can take control of Pakistan air within 72 hours.
Hence Pakistan will have to depend more on its army and its nuclear missiles to defend themselves.
Not true Unfortunately for IAF they Have to face the fact that they are fighting an enemy that has resisted IAF intrusions For the Past Five decades, PAF is a well developed Organization with strong Emphasis on its personal and training. IAF in last few conflicts have always kept away from PAF territory, this is because PAF is a threat, and a Major one. These Random facts that come from Politicians are Just Garbled Rubbish designed for the Amusement of the Voters. The Real stuff comes from the Experts like ACM's of the Airfoces concerned.TRK said:
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I assume you just mistook Pakistan for Iraq or Afghanistan?TRK said:
actually don't be so confident yet myst. in a surprise attack by india pakistan would find it very difficult to recover let allow retaliate. it is possible for IAF to control a large amount of pakistan considering there numbers but it depend on the stratagy used. but i do disagree with the report saying it is possible in 72 hours
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You need to take a careful look at history and even present day developments on this issue and then comment. In 72 hours, IAF jets would just be playing hide and seek with Pakistani Air Defense systems and AirDefense fighter jets. This would go on for ever with IAF getting opportunities (as is the case in any war) to attack ground targets in Pakistan but so will the PAF get similar opportunities to take out Indian ground targets. One thing to keep in mind is Pakistani forces (whether it be Army, AirForce, Navy, etc) are not required to use aggression (unless the enemy has already used it to initiate a war) but to defend their own land, airspace, waters and then if need be, take the fight to the enemy. And trust me, they dont give no quarter or ask for any.
PAF: I understand your concern mate, and I'm concerned about that myself too. The technological gap 'is' widening and we need to do something about it to ensure safety of Pakistan's skies for good. Anywayz, yeah, the 72-hr thing is still a pretty much of a wetdream.
PAF: I understand your concern mate, and I'm concerned about that myself too. The technological gap 'is' widening and we need to do something about it to ensure safety of Pakistan's skies for good. Anywayz, yeah, the 72-hr thing is still a pretty much of a wetdream.
definately. the 72 hour thing is like so impossible. .
anyway all i can say now is that PAf need something like the gripen. F-16 allow wouldn't be sufficient. gripen is a great aircraft for the PAF and PAF should go cry over it instead of crying for the F-16. If we can get the gripen or even the rafale then India has no chance of invading pakistani airspace for to long:ar15
.anyway all i can say now is that PAf need something like the gripen. F-16 allow wouldn't be sufficient. gripen is a great aircraft for the PAF and PAF should go cry over it instead of crying for the F-16. If we can get the gripen or even the rafale then India has no chance of invading pakistani airspace for to long:ar15
Exactly,20-30 days might be a possibility,and that too if IAF deploys all its Squardons and ready to take heavy losses.
It depends on who strikes first,If IAF striked preemptively with Surprising PAF,it would be a problem for PAF.
Not gripen or Rafale,it AWACS.
Rafale would be a real Challenge for IAF,Gripen is not that much effectieve as rafale.
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