The Russian-Ukrainian War Thread

Unric · Feb 24, 2022

the concerned said:
On various news outlets apparently Estonia, Latvia and possibly Poland are invoking article 4 of Nato. What does this mean

There's an explanation on wiki which.I imagine is ok for this kind of thing. Reading through it has been invoked quite a few times when members feel threatened (even back in 2014) but seems to just trigger a meeting on military matters.

Redskin301 · Feb 24, 2022

That means that they are feeling threatened and are requesting consultation with other members to strengthen the national defense with help of other member states.

GermanHerman · Feb 24, 2022

OSINTtechnical (@Osinttechnical) on Twitter

Apparently russian Air Borne Troops have taken gostomel airport just outside kiev, there is some Videos of MI-8s flying in on the Twitter account I posted.

STURM · Feb 24, 2022

On the KA-50 is what appears to be a fuel tank next to the quad ATGW launcher.

On the T-80 video, I had no idea the Russians had reached Kharkov.

denix56 · Feb 24, 2022

GermanHerman said:
OSINTtechnical (@Osinttechnical) on Twitter

Apparently russian Air Borne Troops have taken gostomel airport just outside kiev, there is some Videos of MI-8s flying in on the Twitter account I posted.

3 helis were destroyed, but the paratroopers ran away in the forest. The Special Forces are trying to get rid of them

STURM · Feb 24, 2022

The ''spy chief'' looks extremely nervous and took time to answer a direct question from Putin.

Arji · Feb 24, 2022

CNN has a great footage of Russian airborne troops in Antonov airport. It seems they've taken the airport and are setting up a perimeter.

There's also videos of Russian column crossing the Dnieper.

STURM · Feb 24, 2022

Thanks for mentioning it, I had a look at it.

Like everyone else here I'm eagerly waiting for Feanor's next update. Fighting is ongoing in the Chernobyl area but there's no news on the situation at Odessa. On a link another member kindly provided it's confirmed that a KA-50 was brought down and a T-80 was lost, it's turret separated from the hull.

Ranger25 · Feb 24, 2022

STURM said:
Thanks for mentioning it, I had a look at it.

Like everyone else here I'm eagerly waiting for Feanor's next update. Fighting is ongoing in the Chernobyl area but there's no news on the situation at Odessa. On a link another member kindly provided it's confirmed that a KA-50 was brought down and a T-80 was lost, it's turret separated from the hull.

The big unknown is what’s going on in the wood line. We see the Kalibre, MLRS, and Arty strikes on the news, What’s going on ink the woodline? Are the Russians forces facing resistance from the Ukrainian Military? Light? Heavy?

STURM · Feb 24, 2022

Still a bit early days but I expected the Russans to steamroll the Ukrainians and for many Ukranian units to collapse. Then again the Ukrainians were expecting an attack and the quality of some units has probably improved thanks to years of training assistance from the West. At a tactical level I have no doubt that the Ukrainians are giving a good account of themselves but at an.oper ational level the Russians will be dominating things. From an overall perspective whether or the Russian military is performing as well as the Russian political and military was hoping is question.

Feanor · Feb 24, 2022

the concerned said:
Am I reading this wrong. First Putin recognised the independence of the 2 breakaway regions then in a televised speech he claims Ukraine was created by Russia. So these 2 regions have been played because they will never be independent.

Or Russia will go for regime change in Kiev, and the LDNR will still keep their independence. There's a lot of options.

denix56 said:
3 helis were destroyed, but the paratroopers ran away in the forest. The Special Forces are trying to get rid of them

Do you have any sources or images on the destroyed helos?

Ranger25 · Feb 24, 2022

STURM said:
Still a bit early days but I expected the Russans to steamroll the Ukrainians and for many Ukranian units to collapse. Then again the Ukrainians were expecting an attack and the quality of some units has probably improved thanks to years of training assistance from the West. At a tactical level I Ihave no doubt that the Ukrainians are giving a good account of themselves but at an.oper ational level the Russians will be dominating things. From an overall perspective whether or the Russian military is performing as well as the Russian political and military was hoping is question.

WIll be interesting to see. they can disperse infantry into squad size teams, use Cover to mask their movements. Can be very effective with Javelin Teams vs advancing armor. Javelins cold launch and can be fired from enclosed spaces offering further concealment. Small teams are also less likely to be fixed by drone assets etc spotting for ARTY strikes. Javelin teams can also very effectively engage rotary assets. Can also add MAPAD assets with the same teams and disperse them

Steinmetz · Feb 24, 2022

Ranger25 said:
The big unknown is what’s going on in the wood line. We see the Kalibre, MLRS, and Arty strikes on the news, What’s going on ink the woodline? Are the Russians forces facing resistance from the Ukrainian Military? Light? Heavy?

At first, resistance was very minimal. But it looks like we're starting to see some heavy clashes. It appears some helicopters have been brought down and they've captured a few prisoners. The main-source on that though is actually coming from the Ukrainian MoD, and a lot of their reports are so far uncollaborated. Overall still looks to be going very unwell, and there's been quite a bit of non resistance especially from the border-guards.

It seems to me that no direct urban combat is taking place, it's like the Russians are just surrounding areas, controlling the bridges and outskirts.

Міністерство оборони України

I'm starting to see reports of some VDV landings via copters around several points along the Dniper. A lot of helicopter activity in general.

Киевское направление. Десант на Вышгород. | Военный Осведомитель | VK

Ка-52 в окрестностях Киева | Военный Осведомитель | VK

Ukrainian T-64BV tanks destroyed or abandoned along the Kherson direction. I'll just link one link in regards to that, the other I saw was extremely graphic.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1496859111660609545

Ranger25 · Feb 24, 2022

Feanor said:
Or Russia will go for regime change in Kiev, and the LDNR will still keep their independence. There's a lot of options.

Do you have any sources or images on the destroyed helos?

Feanor. I’ve seen multiple photos of at least 2 KA-52s down. One damaged on the ground with what appears to be shrapnel marks from an aerial burst round, the other was smoking and plumetted into a body of water. Photos to follow

Russian helicopters shot down near Kyiv, says Ukrainian Interior Ministry

Russian President Vladimir Putin announced a military operation in Ukraine early Thursday. Follow here for live news updates from the ground in Ukraine.

www.cnn.com

https://www.reddit.com/r/interestingasfuck/comments/t09eea

Steinmetz · Feb 24, 2022

Apparently the main thrust of the Rotary aircraft assault was in Hostomel. Basically a suburb of Kiev. Accord to the Ukrainian MoD there is a still battle going on for it. So that might be one of the main thrusts the VDV made a landing operation at.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1496867186534756358

Toptob · Feb 24, 2022

Holy balls those Mi-8's are coming in low! @Steinmetz I have also seen those video's, one Ka-52 fell into the water at Vyshhorod near Kiev, one pilot ejected. @Feanor the three Mi-8's where reportedly (according to Ukr mod) shot down near Kiev during the assault of the airport this shows one helicopter going down but I can't see it well.

But it looks like at least some shorad is working. However I see reports of heavy fighting in the East and near Kharkov, but it looks like they're not doing well in the south in the Kherson region with Russians reaching the Dnjepr at kakhova dam and crossing/ seizing Antonovski bridge near Kherson.

I've been following on this website https://liveuamap.com . They seem to keep up pretty well.

Sandhi Yudha · Feb 24, 2022

An airport 15 miles north from Kiev seems to be under control now by Russian airborne troops.
Also the airport of Gostomel seems to be in Russian hands now.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1496849053824471041

Some impressive amount of helicopters.

There is a possibility that the one and only An-225 will not survive the war.

[U] Russischer Überfall auf Ukraine: Antonov AN-225 angeblich zerstört - russischer Helikopterangriff auf Flughafen Hostomel

Zur Stunde soll über dem Flughafen Hostomel eine "Helikopter-Schlacht" zwischen russischen und ukrainischen Kampfhubschraubern stattfinden. Die dort stationierte weltweit einzige AN-225 soll unbestätigten Meldungen zufolge dabei zerstört worden sein. Am Nachmittag gegen 17 Uhr österreichischer...

www.austrianwings.info

STURM · Feb 24, 2022

Ranger,

Given what we saw in the eastern Ukraine years ago, I'd imagine that Russian EW is playing havoc on Ukrainian comms and the ability to deploy UASs. If indeed the bulk of Russian armour are still lacking APS and are largely relying on older ERA modules, they'd be extremely vulnerable to Javelin and MBT LAW. I have no.idea if Western assistance to the Ukrainian military included arty locating radars which would come in extremely useful in countering Russian arty and MLRSs.

Feanor · Feb 24, 2022

Update.

Russian troops are advancing from the north-east into Kharkov and Sumy region, encountering some resistance. They are also advancing from the north into Chernobyl. There is a Russian air assault operation taking place around Kiev, the exact scale of it is hard to judge. There are also Russian troops advancing pretty slowly out of Crimea into Kherson region. The reports of landings in Odessa are so far unsubstantiated.

The fighting.

Allegedly footage of Bayraktars being used against Russian troops.

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