Pakistan test its first cruise missile "BABUR"

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SU 30MKI

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Well the way I understand what the article is trying to make clear is that the RSSS is going to be used for a number of operations and national security/defence would be just one aspect of that. As far as Babur LACM is concerned, it could well be using data from the RSSS in the imminent future.
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well the good resolution picture is already avaliable in internation market then RSSS can have.

Second, the Cruise missile need 3d data of trarrain not 2d
 
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As Myst said it has other applications, amoung those applications, the most important one is Defense, This system should have SAR Image capabilities (RSSS) These images are usually provided UNiversities for free (sure about that), so they can experiment with image, and develope image enhancement techniques and Algorithms this seems to be the new trend. The Babur's maps May be updated useing Images obtained by this SAt. Bare in mind India is way ahead in this area!
 
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SU 30MKI said:
Second, the Cruise missile need 3d data of trarrain not 2d
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it's obvious you don't understand how RSSS images are obtained Enhanced and Analyzed. that is probably the most ridiculous comment i have ever read
 
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SU 30MKI said:
During recent tests, conducted in September and November 2004 at White Sands test range, PAC-3 missiles engaged multiple targets, both short, long range and cruise missiles, with "ripple fire" attacks. In the most recent test, four PAC-3s were "ripple-fired" at two incoming targets. All targets were destroyed by the first missile. Test objectives included demonstrating the system's ability to detect, track and engage a TBM and cruise missile simultaneously, and validating the performance of several components of the PAC-3 Missile that were part of on- going cost reduction initiatives.

http://www.defense-update.com/products/p/patriot-pac3-abm.htm
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Okayyyy... so 4 pac-3's were fired at 2 targets and the first pac-3 fired, destroyed ALL the targets... :confused: .. further more one was a curise missile and the other was a ballistic misslie...
Also, this was a cost reduction intiative.. :D

can this argument get any more lamer ? nope.. i dont think so.

last time the PAC-3 was fired in anger against an incoming threat. it mistook a british tornado jet for a ballistic missile, killing both the pilots and causing great embarasement for US army.
 
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The topic is: Pakistan test its first cruise missile "BABUR" not cruise missile / missile defense even though they are related.
 
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there's a computer program that can convert 2D IR terrain imaging to a full 3D model, i forgot the name though. besides, radar satellites have been around for quite a while and it can easily acquire accurate 3D terrain image on the spot. example: RORSAT, Laccrose
 
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SATAN

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Are there going to be more tests of the Pakistani Cruise Missile in the coming days? Janes Defense weekly were reporting another Pakistani Cruise Missile with a range of 1000km under development.
 
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Hussain

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Pakistan' sea launched cruise missiles are not a priority I would not think. The priority is for anti ship supersonic missiles. I ma not sure if they would be ablkle to miniaturise nuclear warheads for these. But nuked supersonic missiles are the best answer for aircraft carriers and ship concentrations.
 
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aaaditya

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Hussain said:
Pakistan' sea launched cruise missiles are not a priority I would not think. The priority is for anti ship supersonic missiles. I ma not sure if they would be ablkle to miniaturise nuclear warheads for these. But nuked supersonic missiles are the best answer for aircraft carriers and ship concentrations.
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most modern warships ,especially capital ships like the aircraft carriers are well protected against nuclear strike(unless it is a direct strike),but radiations will not effect the warships much(maybe effect the communications and the electronic systems a bit,but that can also be avoided if these systems are properly shielded).
i believe sea launched cruise missiles would be the biggest priority for pakistani navy for it will give its submarines ability to strike deep inside indian territorial waters.:cool:
 
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aaaditya said:
most modern warships ,especially capital ships like the aircraft carriers are well protected against nuclear strike(unless it is a direct strike),but radiations will not effect the warships much(maybe effect the communications and the electronic systems a bit,but that can also be avoided if these systems are properly shielded).
i believe sea launched cruise missiles would be the biggest priority for pakistani navy for it will give its submarines ability to strike deep inside indian territorial waters.:cool:
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I believe the Sub launched (or PC3 orions) Harpoonll that it just purchased from us are sufficient for the job mentioned above.
 
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Hitting an aircraft carrier with a nuclear tipped cruise missile is a bit of overkill isn’t it?? I would rather launch a volley of supersonics and hope a couple get through, but that to is very optimistic

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Hussain

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I don't think an aircraft carrier can withstand a nuclear blast at close proximity. Only a supersonic anti ship missile has any real chance of getting through to an aircraft carrier.
 
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Congrigulations Pakistan! Congrigulations India! U both gains all the respects of us that you made it! i mean both of you succeeded to be the regional and also the world power in restricted situations. i hope you go on like this and solve your problems what ever it is!
 
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Hello. Sorry to dig this thread. I am a newcomer on this forum and I won't make technical comments because though all what has been said on this subject is very very interesting I have no certitude.

Here is my little contribution, some images captured from the video released by the Pakistani Army after the Babur Test :

http://www.payre.com/frs/pays/pakistan/missile_haft_babur/Haft_VII_'Babur'_3-4.JPG
http://www.payre.com/frs/pays/pakistan/missile_haft_babur/Haft_VII_'Babur'_booster.JPG
http://www.payre.com/frs/pays/pakistan/missile_haft_babur/Haft_VII_'Babur'_haut.JPG
http://www.payre.com/frs/pays/pakistan/missile_haft_babur/Haft_VII_'Babur'_profil.jpg
 
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aaaditya

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hey guys ,i want to know a few things about the babar:
1)does it have a warhead release and overflight capability.
2)warhead weight in kilogrammes and penetration figures(of a reinforced concrete bunker)
3)material used in construction.
4)accuracy figures.

thank you.:confused:
 
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Some technical informations of babar

Babar (Tiger) is Pakistan's indigenously made cruise missile. On August 11th, 2005 Pakistan publicly announced that it has successfully test fired nuclear-capable Babur cruise missile. Missile was launched from a land based transporter erector launcher (TEL) . With this test Pakistan has joined the elite club of twelve countries that posses cruise missile technology. Babur is part of Pakistan's Haft-7 missile series. Babur is described as a subsonic, low-level terrain-mapping, terrain-hugging missile that can avoid radar detection and strike with pinpoint accuracy it has a range of 500km (310 miles)
Babur is designed to be extremely accurate. It is steered by an inertial navigation system (INS). INS measures every movement of the missile and every change of speed, constantly calculating the missile’s position. It is equipped with precision guidance system that allows the missile to hit small targets. It has been powered by cruise turbo-fan engine which enables the missile to reach approximate speed of 880 km/h (550 miles/h). Babur design features can be compared with American BGM-109 Tomahawk cruise missile.
It can avoid radar detection to penetrate hostile defensive systems "with pinpoint accuracy" and could also be modified so it can be launched from ships, submarines and aircraft. Currently Pakistan is looking into modification that will enable the missile to be launched from its F-16s, Mirage and A-5 air platforms and naval platform such as Agosta 90B attack submarines and its Tariq Class frigates. In a statement issued by ISPR the spokesman said that Pakistan will be modifying the missile for air and sea launch configurations in coming months. He added Pakistan is also working on a more advanced version of Babur (possibly named as Babur-2) with a range of 1,000km with increased payload. Serial production of Babur has started in October 2005.

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hovercraft said:
Serial production of Babur has started in October 2005.
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How on earth the Missile is cleared for production only after a single test ? :confused:
Even US tests its missiles a dozen times before giving clearence for production
 
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