Pakistan Air Force [PAF] News and Discussions
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From my perspectivei would go for the traditional Swedish Eyrie simply becasue the Datalink system it uses its not brillaint to work with Nato Standard systems, but it sure is one good Datalink. I realy would consider the eyrrie simply because it is regarded as a very cost effective C3 C&C system. if i were to purchase the eyrie, i would choose the swedish Datalinks with Swedish Fighters and other Systems in the Package.pshamim said:
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http://www.eians.com/stories/2005/07/24/24cob.shtml
Pakistan to stage major air force exercise
Indo-Asian News Service
Islamabad, July 24 (IANS) Some 350 aircraft will participate in Tempest-1, the 17-day Pakistan Air Force (PAF) war game beginning July 30 during which elements of the army will also be deployed.
President Pervez Musharraf, the supreme commander of the armed forces, will inaugurate the war game at Chaklala airbase in the twin city of Rawalpindi and preside over the closing ceremony there August 15.
The PAF chief, Air Chief Marshal Kaleem Saadat, will visit all bases where the war game is being conducted to study operational preparedness of the force, while "umpires will be deputed to assess (the performance) of different formations and commands", The News reported Sunday.
All conventional weapons in the PAF armoury will be tested during the exercise, it said.
The exercise has been named after British-built Tempest fighters that formed the backbone of the country's air force after Pakistan was created in 1947.
Some of these aircraft can still be seen at PAF museums around the country.
Defence Minister Rao Sikandar Iqbal, Foreign Minister Khurshid Mehmood Kasuri, Defence Secretary Gen. Tariq Waseem Ghazi and Gen. Muhammad Ehsanul Haq, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff Committee, will attend the inaugural and concluding ceremonies of the war game.
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Just 6 days left then. I hope they release pictures. Also i wish the forces the best of luck for the excercises.
http://www.eians.com/stories/2005/07/24/24cob.shtml
Pakistan to stage major air force exercise
Indo-Asian News Service Islamabad, July 24 (IANS) Some 350 aircraft will participate in Tempest-1, the 17-day Pakistan Air Force (PAF) war game beginning July 30 during which elements of the army will also be deployed.
President Pervez Musharraf, the supreme commander of the armed forces, will inaugurate the war game at Chaklala airbase in the twin city of Rawalpindi and preside over the closing ceremony there August 15.
The PAF chief, Air Chief Marshal Kaleem Saadat, will visit all bases where the war game is being conducted to study operational preparedness of the force, while "umpires will be deputed to assess (the performance) of different formations and commands", The News reported Sunday.
All conventional weapons in the PAF armoury will be tested during the exercise, it said.
The exercise has been named after British-built Tempest fighters that formed the backbone of the country's air force after Pakistan was created in 1947.
Some of these aircraft can still be seen at PAF museums around the country.
Defence Minister Rao Sikandar Iqbal, Foreign Minister Khurshid Mehmood Kasuri, Defence Secretary Gen. Tariq Waseem Ghazi and Gen. Muhammad Ehsanul Haq, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff Committee, will attend the inaugural and concluding ceremonies of the war game.
--Indo-Asian News Service
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Just 6 days left then. I hope they release pictures. Also i wish the forces the best of luck for the excercises.
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I dont know how true it is, but this won't be any mock exercise as live ammo will be used. I'd say it definitely would give PAF a good idea as to where they stand and to assess the implications while at the same time arousing interest in what needs to be done to keep the airforce up-to-date, efficient and prepared as always.
I dont know how true it is, but this won't be any mock exercise as live ammo will be used. I'd say it definitely would give PAF a good idea as to where they stand and to assess the implications while at the same time arousing interest in what needs to be done to keep the airforce up-to-date, efficient and prepared as always.
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so i dnt have any info neither i have given any.
Just taking time out for this messege..sup ppl
Kalim Sadat is here in Saudi Arabia also the British defence delegation. Dont realy have authantic report here but I have been informed it may have to do some thing with Jf-17 to replace F-5.
About the info on WAR GAME & media coverage, I'll find out when I come back on august 1st. 2moro m off to Dubai, I may logg in but may not replay as I have nothing on my hands.
Yes but Sabre is in Saudi Arabialakhani said:
so i dnt have any info neither i have given any.Just taking time out for this messege..sup ppl
Kalim Sadat is here in Saudi Arabia also the British defence delegation. Dont realy have authantic report here but I have been informed it may have to do some thing with Jf-17 to replace F-5.
About the info on WAR GAME & media coverage, I'll find out when I come back on august 1st. 2moro m off to Dubai, I may logg in but may not replay as I have nothing on my hands.
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http://news.webindia123.com/news/showdetails.asp?id=100690&cat=Asia
PAF set to conduct its biggest ever war games
Lahore | July 26, 2005 3:23:47 PM IST
Pakistan Air Force (PAF) is all set to conduct its biggest ever air exercises sometime in September, this year, with the participation of over 350 jets.
The Nation quoted Pakistani officials as saying that the exercises would involve advanced technology and avionics and incorporate all major airbases. It would also involve the participation of the aviation facilities of the two other services, namely the Pakistani Army and the Pakistani Navy.
The PAF spokesman said that the schedule for the event has also not been finalized, though the war games are expected to start from September 7, celebrated as the Air Force Day in Pakistan.
Officials said that the basic aim of the exercises would be threefold, namely to improve the efficiency of the equipment and the combat forces, deterrence to the enemy and lastly enhancing the capacity to fight the micro threats in the war on terror.
The war games, the report said, would focus on all major aspect of combat like ground assault, dogfight, surveillance, air support, use of ammunition and implementation of other latest techniques.
The report further said that the exercises might also witness the combat test of the Chinese built JF-17 Thunder jets, and the combat surveillance capacities of Pakistan's home made UAVs or drones. (ANI)
http://news.webindia123.com/news/showdetails.asp?id=100690&cat=Asia
PAF set to conduct its biggest ever war games
Lahore | July 26, 2005 3:23:47 PM IST
Pakistan Air Force (PAF) is all set to conduct its biggest ever air exercises sometime in September, this year, with the participation of over 350 jets.
The Nation quoted Pakistani officials as saying that the exercises would involve advanced technology and avionics and incorporate all major airbases. It would also involve the participation of the aviation facilities of the two other services, namely the Pakistani Army and the Pakistani Navy.
The PAF spokesman said that the schedule for the event has also not been finalized, though the war games are expected to start from September 7, celebrated as the Air Force Day in Pakistan.
Officials said that the basic aim of the exercises would be threefold, namely to improve the efficiency of the equipment and the combat forces, deterrence to the enemy and lastly enhancing the capacity to fight the micro threats in the war on terror.
The war games, the report said, would focus on all major aspect of combat like ground assault, dogfight, surveillance, air support, use of ammunition and implementation of other latest techniques.
The report further said that the exercises might also witness the combat test of the Chinese built JF-17 Thunder jets, and the combat surveillance capacities of Pakistan's home made UAVs or drones. (ANI)
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http://www.dawn.com/2005/07/29/nat24.htm
By Our Staff Reporter
ISLAMABAD, July 28: A fighter aircraft of Pakistan Air Force (PAF) crashed on Wednesday evening, some 80 kilometres south-west of Islamabad, officials said here on Thursday. The pilot of the aircraft managed to eject in time.
PAF spokesperson Air Commodore Sarfraz Ahmed said the Mirage aircraft crashed at Basal, an area located south-west of the capital.
He said the pilot ejected and there were no casualties on the ground.
The official said the aircraft was on a routine flight when it crashed.
Initial investigations have shown that the crash occurred due to technical reasons, he said.
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http://www.dawn.com/2005/07/29/nat24.htm
By Our Staff Reporter
ISLAMABAD, July 28: A fighter aircraft of Pakistan Air Force (PAF) crashed on Wednesday evening, some 80 kilometres south-west of Islamabad, officials said here on Thursday. The pilot of the aircraft managed to eject in time.
PAF spokesperson Air Commodore Sarfraz Ahmed said the Mirage aircraft crashed at Basal, an area located south-west of the capital.
He said the pilot ejected and there were no casualties on the ground.
The official said the aircraft was on a routine flight when it crashed.
Initial investigations have shown that the crash occurred due to technical reasons, he said.
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http://uk.multimap.com/wi/161873.htm
Right in the middle.
http://uk.multimap.com/wi/161873.htm
Right in the middle.
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Regards Kashif
Basal is situated in the south west of Islamabad-Rwp as mentioned above when you see a railway map then you will find this station on the track the track which is going to the Multan and then continues to the Sindh to Karachi so man do some search go to www.google.comsrirangan said:
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I don't know whether it's been discussed here already, but there's an article in the August 05 edition of AFM on page 16 discussing a PAF Mirage 5EF fighter currently undergoing a ROSE 3 modification at SAGEM's plant in France.
This aircraft was displayed at the Paris International Airshow and was displayed with SAGEM's AASM air to ground modular weapon systems (x2) fitted on a dual launcher under the fuselage of the aircraft and MICA IR/RF mounted on stands under the fuselage and underneath the wings.
The implication seems clear that SAGEM has carried out the necessary integration work for these weapons on the PAF Mirage fighters and has sold them to Pakistan or is actively marketing them to the PAF. Both weapons would be VERY welcome additions to the PAF arsenal I'd imagine...
I don't know whether it's been discussed here already, but there's an article in the August 05 edition of AFM on page 16 discussing a PAF Mirage 5EF fighter currently undergoing a ROSE 3 modification at SAGEM's plant in France.
This aircraft was displayed at the Paris International Airshow and was displayed with SAGEM's AASM air to ground modular weapon systems (x2) fitted on a dual launcher under the fuselage of the aircraft and MICA IR/RF mounted on stands under the fuselage and underneath the wings.
The implication seems clear that SAGEM has carried out the necessary integration work for these weapons on the PAF Mirage fighters and has sold them to Pakistan or is actively marketing them to the PAF. Both weapons would be VERY welcome additions to the PAF arsenal I'd imagine...
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Aussie Digger, i dont think the isssue has been discussed here, or am almost sure that it has been discussed, so you are more then welcome to enlighten us!
The MICA is supposed to be a decent missile, and would be a very nice addition to the inventory of PAF.
Aussie Digger, i dont think the isssue has been discussed here, or am almost sure that it has been discussed, so you are more then welcome to enlighten us!
The MICA is supposed to be a decent missile, and would be a very nice addition to the inventory of PAF.
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I do like the idea of MICA & SAGEM'S AASM being in the inventory of PAF. The idea probably is to make PAF accoustomed to these weapons as they can be later transfered to JF-17 (with French modifications to the AC I suppose). Mirages cant stay longer than 7 more yrs.
It was reported here but was not much discussed & the new report did not contain much details. It was previously reported that France is going to upgrade PAF Mirage-3 & 5 ROSE to BVR with latest weapon systems.Aussie Digger said:
I do like the idea of MICA & SAGEM'S AASM being in the inventory of PAF. The idea probably is to make PAF accoustomed to these weapons as they can be later transfered to JF-17 (with French modifications to the AC I suppose). Mirages cant stay longer than 7 more yrs.
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Aussie Digger is right. unfortunately i couldn't find a better picture of the mirage at the paris airshow
http://images.airliners.net/open.fi...45&prev_id=867938&next_id=NEXTID&tbl=MILITARY
Aussie Digger is right. unfortunately i couldn't find a better picture of the mirage at the paris airshow
http://images.airliners.net/open.fi...45&prev_id=867938&next_id=NEXTID&tbl=MILITARY
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The Air forces Monthly edition I mentioned has a photo of the PAF Mirage 5EF at the SAGEM stand at the Paris Air show. The photo is from the rear of the plane and clearly shows the 2x SAGEM AASM weapons on a weapons pylon underneath the fuselage of the aircraft.
The MICA IR/RF missiles are on stands underneath the aircraft under the fuselage and you can just make out another missile fitted on a pylon under the port wing of the aircraft. This missile is White in colour anf fairly large, so it might be an Exocet, but you can't see enough of it to be sure in that pic.
I think the MICA missile would be a good choice for PAF. It is a BVR capable missile with a range beyond 60 kilometers, but is also designed to perform WVR "dog fighting" type engagements, meaning that strike aircraft can carry this one missile type on strike missions and know they are covered well for both types of air to air combat, and probably carry more strike ordnance...
The AASM looks to be a fine weapon as well. It comes in either powered or glide mode and is a satellite guided munition with reportedly similar accuracy to JDAM. It can also be fitted with an IR seeker giving it similar accuracy to Laser guided weapons but with a fire and forget capability Laser guided weapons don't have... The powered version has a standoff range of 50k's however, whilst the unguided one has a range of 15k's.
The Air forces Monthly edition I mentioned has a photo of the PAF Mirage 5EF at the SAGEM stand at the Paris Air show. The photo is from the rear of the plane and clearly shows the 2x SAGEM AASM weapons on a weapons pylon underneath the fuselage of the aircraft.
The MICA IR/RF missiles are on stands underneath the aircraft under the fuselage and you can just make out another missile fitted on a pylon under the port wing of the aircraft. This missile is White in colour anf fairly large, so it might be an Exocet, but you can't see enough of it to be sure in that pic.
I think the MICA missile would be a good choice for PAF. It is a BVR capable missile with a range beyond 60 kilometers, but is also designed to perform WVR "dog fighting" type engagements, meaning that strike aircraft can carry this one missile type on strike missions and know they are covered well for both types of air to air combat, and probably carry more strike ordnance...
The AASM looks to be a fine weapon as well. It comes in either powered or glide mode and is a satellite guided munition with reportedly similar accuracy to JDAM. It can also be fitted with an IR seeker giving it similar accuracy to Laser guided weapons but with a fire and forget capability Laser guided weapons don't have... The powered version has a standoff range of 50k's however, whilst the unguided one has a range of 15k's.