Re: FC-1 / Super 7 / JF-17
JF-17 To Be Equipped With Advanced BVR Missiles: AVM Shahid Lateef
April 25, 2004: The air force on Friday announced plans to integrate the Beyond Visual Range (BVR) missiles into the JF-17 Thunder aircraft. Half of the 16 Thunders from the first batch of the supersonic third-generation aircraft are expected to be inducted into the PAF inventory by mid 2006, while the rest would be conscripted by the Chinese air force.
Briefing journalists at the JF-17 Thunder project directorate at Chaklala, Air Vice-Marshal Shahid Lateef shared the progress being made on the project and dilated on the features of the maiden flight of prototype-3 held at Chengdu in China on April 9. It was for the first time that two foreign pilots had flown a prototype aircraft in China. "We have now selected the BVR missiles for integration into the JF-17 Thunder. We made a breakthrough recently by acquiring the technology," he said. He said the JF-17 would also carry H-2 and H-4 bombs.
About the avionics component of the JF-17, AVM Lateef said the West was reluctant to offer help in this regard. He said an avionics package for the aircraft had been examined and a contract for it would be finalized next month. In reply to a question, AVM Lateef said five radars of Italian make would be used on the prototypes. The information made available to the media said the prototype-1 of the aircraft was for verification of flight performance, prototype-2 for ground and load testing, prototype-3 for verification of light performance, prototype-4 for avionics and weapons integration and qualification and prototype-5 for fatigue testing. Prototype-2 and prototype-5 were only for ground tests, it said.
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here the AVM said they have chosen the BVR to be incorporated into the JF-17 and they said that it would carry H-4 and H-2 why would they carry two types of BVRAAM.
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Some real good new here have a read thorugh
http://www.pakistanidefence.com/news/MonthlyNewsArchive/2004/April2004.htm
PAF adds new bombs to its arsenal
ISLAMABAD, Dec 17: Pakistan Air Force has integrated the H-4 out-of-sight target bombs in its arsenal of fighter aircraft, official sources said. The incorporation of H-4 bombs have added to the capability of the PAF to hit out-of-sight targets from a distance of up to 120 kilometres to evade enemy radars during air strikes. A lighter version of the bomb, H-2 model, can hit the out-of-sight targets from a range of up to 60 kilometres.
"It is a step towards adding the Beyond Visual Range (BVR) missiles to our arsenal for defensive purposes and to address the strategic imbalance in the region," sources said.
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The indigenously produced H-4 bombs is an achievement of the National Engineering and Scientific Commission (NESCOM), which works in close collaboration with Pakistan Missile Organizationand the Air Weapons Complex.
"Three successful tests of H-4, with the latest conducted this year, produced satisfactory results leading to addition of arsenal in the fighter jets," the sources said.
The H-4 bombs have been made through indigenous efforts by modifying the technological design of South African T-Darter BVR missiles. Till the induction of JF-17 Thunder in 2006, with a provision for BVRs, the H-2 and H-4 bombs could be carried by Mirage fighter jets. The H-4 infrared device is said to be comparable to that of the AA11, AA12 and Python 4 in the Indian arsenal.
Moreover, the sources said, fighter aircraft in PAF's arsenal have the "provision" to be fitted with precision-guided munitions and BVR missiles. When asked about advantages of BVR in Indian arsenal, PAF spokesperson Air Commodore Sarfaraz said: "We are aggressively trying to utilize whatever equipment we have to its optimum operational limits through professional training and by pursuing high standards of maintenance."
Mr Sarfaraz said: "We are aware of our technological needs and are vigorously trying to meet those requirements either through procurements or indigenous developments."
The European and the US suppliers were currently not willing to share the technology with Pakistan. However, contacts were being established with China, defence sources said, adding that JF-17 Thunder (to be inducted in 2006), F-16s and the Mirage aircraft in Pakistan's fleet all had the provision to be fitted with BVRs once the technology and the missiles would be acquired.
GF i sincerly apologize to you for makeing you read all this but i am sure the H-4 is Air to ground there were some Idiotic News media that were associating this missile with BVR AtoA it was mainly the hyped up Pakistani media that thought that the missile was infact what paksitan was trying to procure they read the words BVR and assumed it was Air to Air infact they(Development team) clearly said it was a step towards it. if pakistan has manged to produce a missile like H-4 with darter basic designs the ramjet should be incorporable with the SD-10 missiles that the Chinese were trying to build but they were slow at it and were not getting very far the main reason why i think pakistan has worked so hard on BVR is becasue no one wan't to sell those missiles to Pakistan unless pakistan would purchase Modern AC with them!!. well the Skanks thought enough is enough!! i have heard paksitan has mainly designed the guidance system of the SD-10.
Now could you explain me what you were trying to tell me about the AGM i still don't get it. is it the type of missile that destroys its slef only on contact!!!
SEE GF i am realy confused so try and bare with me while i get by bearings rite !!
this is what i read on another fourm
This reporter has obviously mixed up three different projects here. But the important thing is that the H-2 and the H-4 are finally coming 'out of the closet'.
H2 is the Raptor 1.
H4 is the MUPSOW.
You can scope them out on
http://www.armada.ch/99-3/001.htm
And yes, we have both!
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