Indian Navy (IN) News and Discussion

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suryaaa

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guys a tragedy hapend yesterday that one of our missile corvets has sunk.

rreason is what makes us dought full, that this ship collide with a merchent ship ,with the help of coast gaurd and other naval ship 73 men on board where rescued.

i heard this news in cnn-ibn,but i couldnt find it in there web .

so guys what actualy could have happened ,with all the tech ,its unbelivable.

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aaaditya

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suryaaa said:
guys a tragedy hapend yesterday that one of our missile corvets has sunk.

rreason is what makes us dought full, that this ship collide with a merchent ship ,with the help of coast gaurd and other naval ship 73 men on board where rescued.

i heard this news in cnn-ibn,but i couldnt find it in there web .

so guys what actualy could have happened ,with all the tech ,its unbelivable.

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it is not a missile corvette but a patrol ship,this particular vessel is one of the oldest in the navy,i collided with a merchant vessel,that was stationery,the news was posted on sify news and the bharat rakshak.
 
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rebellious

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The INS Viraat - the Navy's only aircraft carrier, Shishumar-class (German Class 209/1500) submarines, Russian stealth frigates and Delhi-class destroyers will train with a US nuclear-powered carrier carrying a fleet of F/A-18 Hornets. This is the first time the Navy's Sea Harriers will get a chance to fly with the US carrier-based jets. The Navy will also get to engage upgraded US P-3C Orions, on offer to the government.

i dont fancy the Sea HArrier's chances against th F-18s. once we get the mig 29k (we are getting them right/?) it should be a much better battle. i think the indian pilots would stand a good chance with the mig 29s if these exercises are repeated in the future.
 
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aaaditya

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rebellious said:
The INS Viraat - the Navy's only aircraft carrier, Shishumar-class (German Class 209/1500) submarines, Russian stealth frigates and Delhi-class destroyers will train with a US nuclear-powered carrier carrying a fleet of F/A-18 Hornets. This is the first time the Navy's Sea Harriers will get a chance to fly with the US carrier-based jets. The Navy will also get to engage upgraded US P-3C Orions, on offer to the government.

i dont fancy the Sea HArrier's chances against th F-18s. once we get the mig 29k (we are getting them right/?) it should be a much better battle. i think the indian pilots would stand a good chance with the mig 29s if these exercises are repeated in the future.
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i believe they recently conducted these exercises,people realy underestimete the sea harriers,older model navy sea harriers had got better of the airforce mirage2000's is dissimiliar combat exercises.

the advantages that the sea harriers have is their small rcs and their high manouverability.also the cirrent batch of sea harriers have been upgraded with the israeli elta-el/m-2032 radars and are capable of carrying the derby bvraam and python5 sraam(a deadly comination),iam sure it will be able to trouble the f18 more than the mig29.
 
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The current admiral, wants a naval air fleet on the same basis of the Chinas PLAN-AF, exercise against France and the U.S, and against Rafale and F/A 18 will help in determining the best a/c for the IN:ar15
 
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Have you guys given up on the LCA. I am almost certain it will be carrier compatable. Its so small and light it will be able to take off on a small run way. Whens it going to go into production? They keep proponing it and various news sources say it is coming out in a year and others say in 4. So what is it
 
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Have you guys given up on the LCA. I am almost certain it will be carrier compatable. Its so small and light it will be able to take off on a small run way. Whens it going to go into production? They keep proponing it and various news sources say it is coming out in a year and others say in 4. So what is it
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The LCA naval version will surely reside on the ADS carrier, but the Navy wants a new seperate air fleet, on land.
 
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aaaditya

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norinco89 said:
Have you guys given up on the LCA. I am almost certain it will be carrier compatable. Its so small and light it will be able to take off on a small run way. Whens it going to go into production? They keep proponing it and various news sources say it is coming out in a year and others say in 4. So what is it
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as a matter of fact naval test pilots have already flown the lca pv2.

the airforce variant (the first batch of 40) will start joing the the service in about 2010,so we can expect the naval variant to be productionised in 2015.
 
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aaaditya

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norinco89 said:
2010 and 2015! The kavari engine doesnt take that long to fix
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its not a question of the kaveri engine(in a worst case scenario i believe that the kaveri will be ready by 2010) ,the question of operational clearance,most countries initially acquire a small number of aircrafts ,they train extensively on them ,prepare operational and maintainence doctrines regarding the aircraft and try to integrate them into the force structure and only when all this is achieved, do they order in bulk(this stage is called as the ioc or initial operational clearance) and is a part of the aircrafts development stage.
 
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aaaditya

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hey guys here is an interesting news article which clearly states that india's grse will launch 3 new vessels on 28th april for the indian coast guard.

these include 2 fast attack craft for the coast guard having a 1500nm range and a speed of 35 knots and a displacement of 266 tons.

an extra large patrol vessel having a displacement of 2500tons and a range of 6500 nms and a cruise speed of 25kts (5 of this class are to be built) for which raytheon marine has supplied the bridge equipment.


here check out the link:

http://oheraldo.in/node/12866

Goa Shipyard to create shipbuilding history

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PANJIM, APRIL 26 — Goa Shipyard Ltd (GSL) is poised to make a landmark event in the Indian shipbuilding history with the launching of two vessels and commissioning of one vessel on April 28.
A11 these vessels have been designed and built by GSL for the Indian Coast Guard. The two vessels to be launched include one extra fast patrol vessel (XFPV) and one advanced offshore patrol vessel (AOPV). The 105mts AOPV will be the biggest vessel ever built for Indian Coast Guard. The XFPV will be the fifth in series built by GSL. April 28 will witness the commissioning of Extra Fast Patrol Vessel “ICGS Subhadra Kumari Chauhan “at MPT jetty, Vasco. Chief guest for this function will be the Dr P Paleri, PTM, TM, Director General of Indian Coast Guard.
The vessel is 50mts long, 266T primarily designed for patrolling, anti-smuggling and anti-terrorist operations. With a speed of 35 knots, this vessel is fastest in its category ever built by any shipyard with unique feature of waterjet propulsion. It can also support navy during wartime as a coastal convoy escort and a communication link. The vessel has a minimum endurance of 1500NM and is fitted with one 30mm gun, two 12.7 mm machine guns along with highly advanced navigation and communication equipment. For hot pursuit and capture operations requiring high-speed maneuverability, the vessel is powered by three 2720 kw MTU diesel engines driving three independent waterjets. The hull of the vessel is strong enough to withstand sea conditions upto sea state 6. ICGS Subhadra Kumari Chauhan was launched on December 30, 2005. Later in the day, 105mts AOPV will be launched at the hands of Susheela Paleri, wife of DGCG, while the XFPV will be launched by Uma Vadgaokar, wife of FOGA, Goa Naval Area at a ceremony to be held at GSL yard.
The 105 mts AOPV has been named as “ICGS Sankalp” meaning resolute determination. This will be the first of its series and can stage ALH helicopters with helo traversing facility and sea boats. The range of the vessel is 6500NM with a speed of 23.5 knots. The vessel is powered by 28100kw engines with CPP propulsion. The vessel will be ideal for partrolling and policing maritime zones and long-range search and rescue operations.
 
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aaaditya

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hey guys ,check out this article it provides specifications and information on india's indigenously designed light weight torpedo (the shneya) and the indiagenous heavy weight torpedo,also it states that india is developing submersible ships smaller than a conventional submarine.

here is the link:

http://www.khaleejtimes.com/DisplayArticle.asp?xfile=data/subcontinent/2006/April/subcontinent_April1022.xml&section=subcontinent&col=

According to Dr Rao, NSTL is already working on the higher version of torpedo — 'heavyweight torpedo' — and has completed the tests on its capabilities. "This will go in to production by 2009-10," he said.
The lightweight torpedo is 2-3-metre-long and 200kg in weight. It has a range of 6-88km. The heavyweight torpedo is 6-8-metres-long and has a weight of 1,500-2,000kg and a range of 20-30km. It can move at a speed of 40 nautical miles.
According to Dr Rao, the NSTL was also working on several other futuristic projects like developing submersible ships, which will be smaller than the sub marines and can perform both the military and civilian duties.
The laboratory has also completed work on preparing the designs for 'Stealth Ships' after a seven-year-long work and provided the data and design to the Indian Navy for building the futuristic ships.
 
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aaaditya

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hey guys this is article clearly states that nstl is developing a uuv (unmanned underwater vessel )for civilian and millitary purposes.

can anyone provide information on similiar uuv programmes of other nations(china,pakistan,usa,australia an european union and brazil).

by the way check out this link:

http://www.hindu.com/2006/04/27/stories/2006042717090300.htm

Another important project under development was advanced autonomous submersible, which could be used for both civilian (rescue, debris clearance) as well as military (underwater photography and laying mines) applications. It was also drawing up futuristic programmes for warships and submarines.
 
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Big-E

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Can someone give me the current state of the LCA program. As long as this thing has been in development will it still be a good platform?
 
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suryaaa

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aaditya you said about stealth ship and work on it has been going on for 7 years .are we actualy talking about sips in the stealth category which us have.

silent propulsion sytem for subs do have any such thing.
 
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gf0012-aust

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suryaaa said:
aaditya you said about stealth ship and work on it has been going on for 7 years .are we actualy talking about sips in the stealth category which us have.
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I haven't heard of any Indian progs in delivering stealth designed ships. There are only a few places where such designs could happen in India and none of those places have shown any activity at all. None of her current skimmers show any feature of reduced emission design - and none of the designs promoted show sig management features either.

The most modern of her sig modified vessels are russian and they are not sig reduced designs either. (certainly not in the league of the LaFayettes etc...)


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silent propulsion sytem for subs do have any such thing.
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India is not running any NV or sig management systems on any of her subs. Her most recent Kilo was launched with std 2nd generation Russian blades.
 
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aaaditya

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gf0012-aust said:
I haven't heard of any Indian progs in delivering stealth designed ships. There are only a few places where such designs could happen in India and none of those places have shown any activity at all. None of her current skimmers show any feature of reduced emission design - and none of the designs promoted show sig management features either.

The most modern of her sig modified vessels are russian and they are not sig reduced designs either. (certainly not in the league of the LaFayettes etc...)




India is not running any NV or sig management systems on any of her subs. Her most recent Kilo was launched with std 2nd generation Russian blades.
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actually nstl is naval laboratory it is still carrying research in stealth technology,their other projects are reported to be unmanned hovercraft,uuv,and the foilcat(foil based catamaran).

also larsen and toubro have recently entered shipbuilding and designing in a big way,they have their own design beureau and plan to construct small and medium sized vessels for the navy and coast guard,they have recently acquired land for this purpose at chennai and at hazira(where they propose to construct amur submarines for india in partnership with kirloskar marine engines limited),they had wanted to construct the scorpenes for the navy ,but navy chose mdl so as to utilize their dormant facilities.

also,i dont how true it is but recently i saw a us article which mentioned the sale of us ccs submarine command control system(i believe similiar to the one sold to australia) to india (i dont know if this article is true or not ,if true iam not sure wether these are meant for the atv,scorpene or the amur or the kilo upgrades.),would have any idea about this deal.

also that artcile which i posted mentioned submersible ships ,not signature management for submarines,besides the article meant that the stealth research and design concepts being conducted by the organisation for the past 7 years has reached a stage where is can be productionised in the form of stealth warships.
 
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aaaditya

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by the ways guys the construction of the first scorpene for the indian navy has been started.

here is the link:

http://www.dnaindia.com/report.asp?NewsID=1026612


The Scorpene is a 1,750-tonne (1,929-ton) submarine, 67 metres (220 feet) long and capable of diving to a depth of 300 metres.
Designed for coastal defence, it can stay at sea for up to 45 days with a crew of 31. It is equipped with modern sonar detection equipment, six torpedo tubes and missile launchers; these are among the parts being produced in France, along with the propellers, hatches and front and back bulkheads.
DCN developed the submarine jointly with the Spanish shipbuilder Navantia (formerly Izar), with the French defence group Thales providing the electronics.

Work on assembling the first Scorpene is scheduled to begin in December 2006 at the Mazagaon shipyard in Mumbai. The vessel should be ready by 2012, the Indian defence ministry said, with the remaining five being delivered at intervals of one per year thereafter.
 
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