well dont know much about the russian amur,but the recent that i heard from the indian navy was that india is interested in joining the russo-italian submarines project,this project is to be based on the amur(a 900-1200 ton variant proposed for the italian navy for littoral warfare.)norinco89 said:What is the current status on India's subs.
I know the scorpian is going to come out in a few years
What is the current status on India's SSN. Are they going to buy a amur class sub or what?
What level of technology is India's indigious sub capable of. Victor II? Yankee?
South Korean ship building looks quality, i could just about image a KDX-3 under Indian navy command:dbananaecently a high level indian delegation left for south korea ,their agenda was cooperation in warship and defence technology development and design ,i hope that submarine design and development was also discusse.
The Sth Koreans build to an excellent level of quality. eg they do without doubt, build the best quality deep sea anchor boats in the world at the moment - and all at a price range that is probably 2/3rds to 3/4's the cost of their nearest competitors.PJ-10 BrahMos said:r
South Korean ship building looks quality, i could just about image a KDX-3 under Indian navy command:dbanana
What happened to the French Scorpio subs ?? I thought they were under construction in France for IN.aaaditya said:well dont know much about the russian amur,but the recent that i heard from the indian navy was that india is interested in joining the russo-italian submarines project,this project is to be based on the amur(a 900-1200 ton variant proposed for the italian navy for littoral warfare.)
however the most unique feature of the amur is its versatility, it is available in sizes ranging from 900tons to 1800tons depending upon the customer specifications.
the russo -italian project will most probably have fuel cell developed italy ,adn italian/european sensors.
if india joins this project then the indian navy version will have either the indigenous humsa or the panchendriya sonars,which have been found to be superior to the russian sonars.
the atv class nuclear powered submarine is expected to be launched next year or in 2008 at the latest,the problem with the reactor containment vessel is claimed to be solved (with russian assistance offered as a part of the koodankulam project),there are also reports that israel is actively participating in this project(maybe for the development of a internediate ranged cruise misile based on the turbopopeye),however icannot confirm this ,all i can confirm is that in 2002 a high level indian delegation went to israel (includng the indian defence secretary) and this project was on the agenda for discussion.
larsen and toubro and kirloskar marine engines are actively involved in this project,they have already set up facilities in hazira expecting to manufacture the amur class for the navy should the navy select it.
they also offered to build the corpenes for the navy at hazira,but the navy wanted to revitalise its facilities at mdl and hence mdl was selected for the scorpene project.
The work is under progress in Spain and France:SABRE said:What happened to the French Scorpio subs ?? I thought they were under construction in France for IN.
indian navy plans to set up 2 submarine lines one on the west coast (scorpene) and the other on the east coast(amur or hdw).SABRE said:What happened to the French Scorpio subs ?? I thought they were under construction in France for IN.
aaditya can you give me some info on the eastern sub fleet (amur or hdw).aaaditya said:indian navy plans to set up 2 submarine lines one on the west coast (scorpene) and the other on the east coast(amur or hdw).
under project 75 a total of 30 submarines are to be built over a period of 30 years,initially the plan was to develop an indigenous design based on the existing type 209 class of submarine,however these submarine could not be modified to carry missiles.suryaaa said:aaditya can you give me some info on the eastern sub fleet (amur or hdw).
i am confused about this deal,under which project will this deal come.
about scorpene deal are we getteng tot with it.
what is our current position on atv.
My understanding from sources such as Naval Forces review is that the Indian submarine fleet will be organized along 3 classes :aaaditya said:under project 75 a total of 30 submarines are to be built over a period of 30 years,initially the plan was to develop an indigenous design based on the existing type 209 class of submarine,however these submarine could not be modified to carry missiles.
then the plan was to acquire a submarine from abroad ,which was changed to splitting the order between two submarines.
as far as the atv is concerned ,the project is claimed to be on schedule ,and reportedly all problems with the reactor containment vessel have been solved
with the russian assistance,the vessel is expected to be launched in 2008.
the vessel will most probably be classified as a ssgn(sub surface general nuclear) and iam sure will be capable of launching both ballistic and cruise missiles.
I thought it was widly known that the 2 SSNs from Russia would be the Akulas, and the indiginous ATV boat would be based upon the Severodvinsk classMy understanding from sources such as Naval Forces review is that the Indian submarine fleet will be organized along 3 classes :
> Scorpene, 6 subs for now, replacing Foxtrot and T209
> Amur as of 2010 approx, replacing the Kilo
> Local production SSN based on Victor-III Russian design.
i remember reading an article (i cant remember the source) that the hull of the atv resembles the severodvinsk,but until a detailed information is not available ,this cannot be considered as true.the 2 akulas are to be acquired on a lease for a period of 10 years to train the crew on the operations with a nuclear submarine.PJ-10 BrahMos said:
from what i have read in the media reports,yes the reactor has been land tested and fitted in the hull,now the remaining work has to be done.Big-E said:Has the IN been able to fit a reactor into the ATV to keep with weight and size reqs?
That shouldn't take long, any idea to a launch date? India's first nuc-sub is exciting.aaaditya said:from what i have read in the media reports,yes the reactor has been land tested and fitted in the hull,now the remaining work has to be done.