The Russian-Ukrainian War Thread

vikingatespam

Well-Known Member
The man just posted to both give respect and provide some Insite from the other side. Something anyone who considers the issue important should consider.
If the "insight" is nonsense, why should we avoid calling it such ? From the German perspective in 1941, should we have given their viewpoint any respect ? Wrong is wrong.

As for your posts about Ukraine never joining NATO well that's perspective. There was indeed much talk about it, there was also much NATO expansion into areas that Russia was told there would not be NATO expansion in. Again that point about perspective

No, it isnt "perspective" at all. NATO bylaws prohibit a country joining that is in active conflict. Thanks to Putin and his instigated conflict, Ukraine couldnt join. Let not even consider Orban's inevitable veto of Ukraine joining. So, no there as no risk.

But hey, if the fear of NATO is so strong, what do you say about Sweden and Finland joining NATO ? Putin gives fuck-all about it, given his removing almost all troops from the Finnish border. Putin doesnt care about NATO, its a total smoke screen.

Countries join NATO out of fear of Russia. The fear is rational and backed up by historical precedence.

I would also note hits points about culture and how close this issue is to Russians (or at least a notable portion of Russians) to there shared history and culture is is something that has also been from the very beginning a point constantly and consistently made by the Russian government.
[looks at you funny]

Sure, the average Russian soldier cares so much about the shared history and culture of Ukraine, they feel free to rape, murder and pillage their way across Ukraine. Are the nightly cruise missile and drone attacks a symbol of love ? The average Russian cares SO MUCH about Ukraine, there is mass protest to stop the pointless war. Right ?

Russian government ? There is no Russian government, only Putin. His opponents have been Window Cancer-ed out of existence.

And there for a valid point weather you agree with it or not is almost moot as when it comes down to it these points are what the war is in large part about from the other side...personally I've always considered the real tradagy of this war to be the fact that two people who were in many ways brother are now at war and nomatervthe outcome this is likely to cause some degree of bad blood for generations
Only one of those two people (RU) is continuing the war. The other one just wants to exist (UKR). There is no moral equivalence here.

Thanks to Putin, Cold War 2 is upon us. [golf clap]
 

Redshift

Active Member
Good evening everyone.

Being a long-time reader of this forum, I would like to thank Feanor for basic adequacy and honesty, as a person living in Russia. And also representatives of the Global South, for not following the Western narrative and preserving their own view on such complex relations between the West and Russia.

I want to note that the overwhelming majority of commentators who do not speak Russian and are forced to use English-language sources of information, as a rule, have an extremely distorted view of the processes taking place in the post-Soviet space.

The conflict in Ukraine is perceived extremely painfully within Russian society – not in the media, on forums, or Telegram, but in real communication. To put it roughly, every third person in Russia has relatives in Ukraine; for many it is a personal tragedy. Over three hundred years as part of Russia, a common culture, language, and religion (with the exception of Western Ukraine).

If we talk about the reasons for the conflict, it is a very complex question, but if we simplify it to the maximum, it is the complete and systematic ignoring by the West of Russia's national interests. The subsequent severing of economic ties with Ukraine and the possible formation of a military alliance against Russia (no matter with whom) – this is an existential threat, and here no international laws work anymore. By analogy with the Caribbean Crisis, just imagine Canada instead of Cuba.

If interested, as an example, you can watch the talk by the independent Russian journalist Vladimir Pozner already in the distant 2018 at Yale University:


P.S. I do not speak English well enough, so I’m using a translator.
Ireland was part of the UK for 121 years should the UK show it's love by invading Ireland? And then if they don't capitulate immediately launch daily missile strikes against Dublin until they do?

As Ukraine (mostly) clearly does not want to be part of Russia wouldn't you love for them let them go?

If NATO truly poses an existential threat to Russia
Then why are you wasting your time attacking a weak country who even if in NATO would barely even noticibly increase NATO power?

Before this NATO was weak, possibly close to dissolution but is now spending money that it doesn't want to.

The only real "threat" was to the spread of liberal values which make populations less easy to control once individuals see that they can be what they want to be and not what state tells them is acceptable, this was potentially a threat to the Russian "way of life".
 

Aleks.ov

New Member
What utter nonsense.

1) Ukraine was never going to join NATO - it could not, but NATOs own by-laws. Why dont you think about this: why do so many countries want to join NATO ? Could it be they are afraid of getting invaded by Russia ? I wonder why ? Ironically Putin has been the best advertisement for NATO membership. Thanks to Putin, Sweden and Finland joined.

2) Looks like Putin severed those economic ties with Ukraine, as well as with Europe. Go ahead and blame him in public, and see how well that works out for you.

3) NATO never invaded Russia. It never threatened to nuke Russia, like Russia likes to do. (Looking at you Medvedev). NATO was NEVER a threat to Russia. In early 2022, NATO was dying, with no real mission and ever shrinking military budgets (can Germany even field a single mech brigade ? I doubt it even now). NATO is just another excuse for paid trolls use to justify this utter shit-show of military incompetence. This is not 1941. No one is going to invade Russia.

4) Russia formented this crisis, plain and simple. This is all on Putin.

Your arguments demonstrate astonishing ignorance of history and context.

1. NATO was initially created to oppose the USSR. Its expansion in 1999 and 2004 occurred during the period of Russia's greatest economic weakness and maximum openness to democratic reforms. The bombing of Yugoslavia and the subsequent expansion of NATO were perceived as a deep insult. Russia's military budget over the past decades did not exceed the analogous budget of the United Kingdom.

2. You clearly do not know the history of the conflict. This concerns the EU-Ukraine Association Agreement (DCFTA) of 2012, the refusal to sign which led to the so-called "Maidan," in which high-ranking officials from the EU and the USA took direct part. This served as the primary driver for the sharp deterioration in relations. To understand this, imagine Chinese officials openly participating in anti-government protests in Canada in 2025 and the subsequent reaction of Trump.

3. Medvedev is an ordinary "Talking Head"; his statements are nothing more than a reflection of fairly extreme views within Russia, and believe me, his posts are still relatively diplomatic. The main threat to Russia is not Europe, but the USA as the key player in the military alliance. One of the strategic goals of the USA is the prevention of an economic union between Russia and Germany, as the leading economy of the EU, and the consolidation of cheap Russian resources and advanced European technologies.

4. Watch the video, it will be useful for you.
 

Aleks.ov

New Member
Ireland was part of the UK for 121 years should the UK show it's love by invading Ireland? And then if they don't capitulate immediately launch daily missile strikes against Dublin until they do?

As Ukraine (mostly) clearly does not want to be part of Russia wouldn't you love for them let them go?

If NATO truly poses an existential threat to Russia
Then why are you wasting your time attacking a weak country who even if in NATO would barely even noticibly increase NATO power?

Before this NATO was weak, possibly close to dissolution but is now spending money that it doesn't want to.

The only real "threat" was to the spread of liberal values which make populations less easy to control once individuals see that they can be what they want to be and not what state tells them is acceptable, this was potentially a threat to the Russian "way of life".
What is the point of this analogy with Ireland? Russia did not seek to annex Ukraine before 2014. The issue was, at a minimum, about neutrality and the prevention of an economic or military alliance.

The question is about Ukraine's independence, reduced to zero by external control after 2014. The protests and subsequent referendums in Crimea and Donbas, no matter how you feel about them, showed a different opinion.

The threat is not in Ukraine's current strength, but in the prospect of NATO infrastructure deployment. Under the Minsk Agreements, Ukraine was supposed to become a buffer, but they were deliberately sabotaged.

NATO was never weak; the military budget of the USA, as the key player, has always been colossal.

The threat was geopolitical (a bridgehead against Russia). "Liberal values" do not prevent the USA or the EU from supporting Saudi monarchs and other so-called regimes.
 

rsemmes

Active Member
Ireland was part of the UK for 121 years should the UK show it's love by invading Ireland? And then if they don't capitulate immediately launch daily missile strikes against Dublin until they do?
Ireland was invaded and there still are forces of occupation.
As soon as a paper is sign, with those forces still present, Konstiantinivka will be as British as Derry is Russian.
 

Redshift

Active Member
What is the point of this analogy with Ireland? Russia did not seek to annex Ukraine before 2014. The issue was, at a minimum, about neutrality and the prevention of an economic or military alliance.

The question is about Ukraine's independence, reduced to zero by external control after 2014. The protests and subsequent referendums in Crimea and Donbas, no matter how you feel about them, showed a different opinion.

The threat is not in Ukraine's current strength, but in the prospect of NATO infrastructure deployment. Under the Minsk Agreements, Ukraine was supposed to become a buffer, but they were deliberately sabotaged.

NATO was never weak; the military budget of the USA, as the key player, has always been colossal.

The threat was geopolitical (a bridgehead against Russia). "Liberal values" do not prevent the USA or the EU from supporting Saudi monarchs and other so-called regimes.
NATO was and is no threat to Russia whether weak or strong.
 

Redshift

Active Member
Your arguments demonstrate astonishing ignorance of history and context.

1. NATO was initially created to oppose the USSR. Its expansion in 1999 and 2004 occurred during the period of Russia's greatest economic weakness and maximum openness to democratic reforms. The bombing of Yugoslavia and the subsequent expansion of NATO were perceived as a deep insult. Russia's military budget over the past decades did not exceed the analogous budget of the United Kingdom.

2. You clearly do not know the history of the conflict. This concerns the EU-Ukraine Association Agreement (DCFTA) of 2012, the refusal to sign which led to the so-called "Maidan," in which high-ranking officials from the EU and the USA took direct part. This served as the primary driver for the sharp deterioration in relations. To understand this, imagine Chinese officials openly participating in anti-government protests in Canada in 2025 and the subsequent reaction of Trump.

3. Medvedev is an ordinary "Talking Head"; his statements are nothing more than a reflection of fairly extreme views within Russia, and believe me, his posts are still relatively diplomatic. The main threat to Russia is not Europe, but the USA as the key player in the military alliance. One of the strategic goals of the USA is the prevention of an economic union between Russia and Germany, as the leading economy of the EU, and the consolidation of cheap Russian resources and advanced European technologies.

4. Watch the video, it will be useful for you.
You will get no more engagement frome so post away.
 

rsemmes

Active Member
NATO was and is no threat to Russia whether weak or strong.
Based on your fortune-telling?
It is not if it is a threat, but if Russia considers it a threat (following your line). Is Iran a threat to US? US is a threat to Iran, we have seen that.

Or...
You are saying that you are against Russia but not against UK when both do the same. We agree, those are our principles. Our own western democracies' high horse.
 

Redshift

Active Member
Based on your fortune-telling?
It is not if it is a threat, but if Russia considers it a threat (following your line). Is Iran a threat to US? US is a threat to Iran, we have seen that.

Or...
You are saying that you are against Russia but not against UK when both do the same. We agree, those are our principles. Our own western democracies' high horse.
Oh hello you again, once more presenting opinions without evidence good man do keep it up, just keep asserting things and I'm sure it must all be true.
 

Stampede

Well-Known Member
Based on your fortune-telling?
It is not if it is a threat, but if Russia considers it a threat (following your line). Is Iran a threat to US? US is a threat to Iran, we have seen that.

Or...
You are saying that you are against Russia but not against UK when both do the same. We agree, those are our principles. Our own western democracies' high horse.
Suggest Russia doesn’t consider NATO a threat so much as Putin considers it an opportunity for domestic politics to play the hard man.
Putins “high horse”of playing the victim and defender of history has done nothing for Russia or Ukraine but brought death and damage on a grand scale.
Whatever you or I think,the reality of the situation is the vast majority of Ukraine’s depleted population of 2014 has migrated west not east.
There’s a reason for that!

This region faces generational challenges going forward because of one person.
Putin

Just another brutally vile character that one day will be confined to history.




Regards S
 

vikingatespam

Well-Known Member
Your arguments demonstrate astonishing ignorance of history and context.
I was about to accuse you of the same, but let us skip that and head to your arguments.

1. NATO was initially created to oppose the USSR.
Thanks for telling me what we already know. I think you will find that the audience here is mostly highly educated and not a "low-information" crowd.

However, allow me to put some refinement on what you said. NATO was not created to oppose Russia. It was not created to invade Russia. It was created to oppose Russian expansion.

Its expansion in 1999 and 2004 occurred during the period of Russia's greatest economic weakness and maximum openness to democratic reforms.
None of that changes the fact that:

1) No promises were made to not expand NATO
2) No one forced a country to join NATO.

Let me remind you: Many, many people in Eastern Europe despise Russia as a country for being under the yoke of the USSR. They joined for a reason. Russia is once again proving the necessity of NATO.

The bombing of Yugoslavia and the subsequent expansion of NATO were perceived as a deep insult.
Was it as a big of an insult as the awful sectarian violence the Balkans experienced ? NATO made peace. Russia did not.

Russia's military budget over the past decades did not exceed the analogous budget of the United Kingdom.
...which conveniently leaves out the Purchasing Power Parity (PPP) of the two nations. Items are relatively cheaper in Russia due to cheaper labor, materials, and looser restrictions.


Regardless of the relative budgets, should the Allied nations in WW2 shed a tear for Nazi Germany when the German military budget was dwarfed by the Allied powers ? I suspect not.

2. You clearly do not know the history of the conflict.
Yanokovich tossed a pro European economic agreement on Putins orders. This led to Maidan. There was no conspiracy to remove him by outside powers (spare me the picture of Nuland handing out cookies, I have heard that line a thousand times). Few people cared about Ukraine one way or another until Putin stoked the sectarian violence by having elements of 8th Guards Army enter the fray on the separatists part.

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Oh, you didnt know about that ?

But none of this is relevant. Ukraine is a sovereign, indepedant country, that is free to choose to not be Russia. If you cant see that, then it is you who is wrong.

3. Medvedev is an ordinary "Talking Head"; his statements are nothing more than a reflection of fairly extreme views within Russia, and believe me, his posts are still relatively diplomatic.
its "relatively diplomatic" to constantly threaten nuclear war ? Dont get me wrong, we all know Medvedev is a vodka fueled convenient pawn for Putins ascent to power again. Of course, none of that matters now that Putin removed term limits. Ein Volk, Ein Reich, Ein Fuhrer ! <--- you see the sarcasm here, dont you ?

The main threat to Russia is not Europe, but the USA as the key player in the military alliance.
Oh sure, thats why the US has 5-6 fully staffed divisions in Poland and eastern europe. <---- more sarcasm.

Let me clue you in to the west here: No one cares to invade Russia. Russia is under no threat from the US or Europe (seriously, how many European nations can field a single fully staffed combat brigade ?)

Russia stole Crimea (go ahead and justify that, I dare you) and the world did nothing.

I will say it again: No one is going to invade Russia. No one. Well, maybe the Chinese in a few years.

One of the strategic goals of the USA is the prevention of an economic union between Russia and Germany, as the leading economy of the EU, and the consolidation of cheap Russian resources and advanced European technologies.
That would explain the massive economic trading between the EU and Russia before 2022.

You know, the trade that Putin killed ?

Sorry, you are spouting conspiracy theories with nothing to back them up.
 

vikingatespam

Well-Known Member
The question is about Ukraine's independence, reduced to zero by external control after 2014. The protests and subsequent referendums in Crimea and Donbas, no matter how you feel about them, showed a different opinion.
My friends, this is how you identify the uninformed poster. No one on this planet believes the Post-RU invasion referendums are in the same galaxy as "fair and free of corruption".
 

vikingatespam

Well-Known Member
Based on your fortune-telling?
It is not if it is a threat, but if Russia considers it a threat (following your line).
If Russia is the equivalent of the heroin-addict on the street, talking to the fire hydrants, why should we give the Russian opinion any merit.

Please, for our benefit, describe how the utterly depleted NATO forces of 2021 were a threat to Russia:

here is a space for you to lay out your arguments
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Now, you may not believe that NATO was a threat, and you are in fact, being the Devil's advocate, which is fair enough. In which case, the point is that there is no rational analysis of military spending and force structures that leads a thinking human being to believe that NATO was about to invade Russia.

NATO is just a smokescreen. Putin.Doesnt.Care.About.NATO. If Putin was afraid of NATO, why did he remove virtually all Russian forces from Kaliningrad and the Finnish border ?

Putin.Doesnt.Care.About.NATO. It is nothing more than a convenient excuse for bad behavior.


Is Iran a threat to US? US is a threat to Iran, we have seen that.
A nuclear armed iran is a threat to a lot of the world. An Iranian nuke is a Hezbollah nuke.
 

Feanor

Super Moderator
Staff member
Update.

There appear to be contradictory reports about Russian advances in June, so far I see claims from ~450 to 550 sq km. This appears to be on par with May, meaning we're not seeing the kinds of compounding gains Russia got last year, but on the whole the speed of the advance is unpleasant.

Sumy region.

Ukrainian forces have pushed Russian forces away from the village of Sadki. Russian advances in this area have effectively halted, though it's unlikely to last.


Russian drone strike hits a Ukrainian Leo-2, allegedly a Strv-122 though I can't tell from this video, it might be an A6. The first drones immobilizes the tank very deliberately, the second lights the engine on fire, and the third aimes for the turret.


A pile of Ukrainian dragon's teeth near Yunakovka. Presumably they were supposed to have been set up.


Russian forces hauling away a knocked out Strv-122 (Leo-2A6?) Sumy region.


Russian forces have captured either one or two CV90s.


Kharkov area.

Russian forces have crossed the Volchya west of Volchansk.


Russian TOS-1 strikes in the Volchansk area.


Kupyansk area.

Russian forces have gained ground contesting Golubovka, continuing to approach Kupyansk from the north. Meanwhile on the left shore Russian forces have retaken Kolesnikovka and contested the outskirts of Glushkovka.


Oskol front.

In Redkodub, across the Zherebets, Ukrainian forces counter-attacked recapturing most of the village. Russian forces continue to expand control in other parts of the salient.


Seversk salient.

Russian forces continue to advance in this area, reaching well west of Verkhnekamenskoe, approaching Seversk from the east, and in Serebryanka, creeping up on Seversk from the north.


Chasov Yar.

Russian forces have taken large chunks of area on both shores of the canal north of Chasov Yar. South of Chasov Yar Russian forces continue to gain ground around Stupochki and by the quarry. Meanwhile Ukrainian forces have pushed into the town from the west again along a narrow path. In the northern part of Chasov Yar Russian forces have pushed Ukrainian forces out of the town again.


Konstantinovka area.

Russian forces are continuing to grab terrain south of Yablonovka and have advanced east of Rusin Yar. North of Toretsk Russian forces have taken all of Dyleevka village and some ground north of it, meanwhile Ukrainian forces have pushed them out of the outskirts of Belaya Gora.


Russian strikes on Ukrainian positions near Popov Yar.


Pokrovsk area.


West of Pokrovsk Russian forces are approaching Udachnoe from the south and south-west, pushing out of Novosergeevka, which itself is now fully under Russian control. South of Pokrovsk.Russian forces have taken the rest of Bel'giyka village, by the rail line, and the asphalt factory, south-west of Pokrovsk. East of Pokrovsk Ukrainian forces have counter-attacked retaking Mirolyubovka. Russian forces have pushed west and north-west, approaching Novotoretskoe, Razino, Novoekonomichnoe, and Nikolaevka. There are also Russian gains north of Grodovka, south-east of Mirnograd.


Russian drone strikes in Shakhovo.


Russian forces hauling away a captured Bradley and a Leo-2A6 in the Pokrovsk area.


Russian Tor-M1 with drone defense picket. The Tor is up-armored, and the drone defense picket is quite robust, with one semi-automatic shotgun, one pump-action, and even an HMG on a vehicle.


Battle damage is starting to accumulate in Pokrovsk. While the town is still mostly intact, fighting is fairly close to the town now including the outskirts.


Dnepropetrovsk axis.


Russian forces have entered Dnepropetrovsk from another area, taking the village of Dachnoe, pushing along the Volchya river. They also took the villages of Yalta and Zor'ka.


Russia hit a bridge across the Volchya, on the region's border.


Russian forces inside Dachnoe, the first village in Dnepropetrovsk region under Russian control.


Velikaya Novoselka area.


Russian forces have taken the village of Shevchenko, and have pushed into the fields west of Shevchenko and Vol'noe Pole, and north of Shevchenko. Russia also took ground west of Fedorovka.


Zaporozhye front.

Russian forces are making another large play for Kamyanskoe. They've pushed through the entire southern part and have a foothold across the river in the northern part. Russian forces have also cleared the last parts of Stepovoe, and taken some fields around it. Around Orekhov Russian forces have broken into Malaya Tokmachka and now contest the village. In the east Russian forces now have all of Malinovka.


Russian forces on the other shore in Kamyanskoe.


There are reports of additional Russian troops heading towards Zaporozhye.


Russian strikes in Kanevskoe, Zaporozhye region. Allegedly the targets are UAV storage.


Black Sea/Crimea.


Russian jets and Lancets hunting Ukrainian unmanned boats. The jets are allegedly using Kh-31 missiles.


Another series of Ukrainian strikes on targets in Crimea. The first video includes 4 radars, a Pantsyr and an Su-30 jet. However it appears all except one radar and the near-miss on the Su-30 are repeat footage (links 1-2). The second is 4 radars, but it appears only two were actually hit.

 

Feanor

Super Moderator
Staff member
Strikes.

Russian strikes hit Kiev. Targets include the radiofactory.


Russian strikes on Konotop, allegedly striking Ukraine's 58th Mech Bde staging areas.


Russian strike landing in Chuguev, Kharkov region.


Russia continues striking the oil refinery in Kremenchug.


Russian Shahed strikes, with optics, landing in the Kramatorsk airport. They allegedly hit a UAV assembly facility. Other targets in Kramatorsk may have been hit but details are absent.


Russian strikes in Krivoy Rog. Targets include the TCC building.


There are reports that Russian gliding bombs have hit Dnepropetrovsk for the first time. I'm not sure this is accurate, and the munition may have been the Grom-1 rocket-assisted gliding bomb. Fighterbomber suggests that this is a modified UMPK munition of the 4th series, rather then the Grom-1.


Russia hit Dnepropetrovsk, targets include the pipe factory, Yuzhmash, and the train repair plant. These are at least two separate waves of strikes.


Russian strikes landing in Zaporozhye. These are two separate strikes.


Russian strikes in Nikolaev.


Russian strikes land in Odessa.


Russia hit an oil refinery in Odessa region, near Burlachya Balka.


Russia hit targets in Ternopol'.


Russia hit the Drogobych oil refinery, in L'vov region.


Ukrainian Mi-8 hunting a Russian Shahed.


Ukraine apparently lost another F-16, with the pilot KIA. It's unclear what exactly happened. It might have been a Russian long range AAM, or friendly fire, or even another Shahed. I think this is the 4th lost F-16?


Ukraine struck Donetsk, apparently hitting a market among other targets. Civilians casualties are reported, 1 dead 3 wounded. The strike reportedly involved drones and Storm Shadow missiles. Warning graphic footage.


Ukraine hit Lugansk, targets unclear.


Ukraine hit a Russian airbase in Volgorad region, taking out 4 Su-34s. It's unclear if they're all destroyed. Ukrainian sources report two destroyed and two damaged.


Ukraine hit the Izhevsk Almaz-Antey factory. This facility produces drones, and also Tor SAMs. There are reports of civilian casualties but no figures.


More footage of Russia's Kochevnika anti-drone teams with Chinese LASS laser.


Russian forces using an AK-306 as a stationary land-based drone defense installation, possibly Kherson region.


Fragments of a Ukrainian Peklo UAV. This is a new UAV type being used by Ukraine for strikes.


We have a new variant of the An-196 Lyutiy UAV, this one launches from a catapult, instead of using its own chassis.


An interesting video of Ukrainian UAV launches, of several types.

 

Feanor

Super Moderator
Staff member
Interesting bits.

An interesting video of a Ukrainian drone taking out a Russian M1991 MLRS. Amazingly the crew seems to escape, despite the MLRS being loaded and one of the rockets taking off.


Another video of a Ukrainian interceptor trying to bring down a Russian Forpost-RU drone.


Russian sappers clear mines and UXO in Selidovo. It's interesting to see this as the town of Mar'inka, right next to Donetsk itself, remains uncleared. The difference might be that Mar'inka has been thoroughly destroyed, as it was on the front line since '14, and most of the population isn't coming back. Selidovo on the other hand only saw 1 week of fighting in the town itself, and most of the town remains intact. Selidovo, Ukrainks, Gornyak, and Novogrodovka, are prime candidates for population to return to as the damage is relatively light.


Russian armored train operations continue in Ukraine. This is the Yenisey train.


A closer look at a M1989 Koksan SP howitzer, on a Russian position.


A new Ukrainian Protector UGV.


Ukraine is testing their own gliding bomb kits. Russian sources speculate that they're UMPK clones, but I see no reason why this would be the case. Ukraine has plenty of western partners that could help design a gliding bomb kit for a Soviet FAB.


Ukraine has begun uparmoring their SAMs. Here we have an IRIS-T command vehicle and a mobile power source of a Patriot battery.


An interesting look at a Ukrainian FrankenSAM decoy. It's a Buk variant.


One of Ukraine's last surviving Abrams has been turned into a display piece, in Kiev. Presumably the tank is damaged beyond use.


Australian M1A1s are now in Poland, pending delivery to Ukraine.

 
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