The Russian-Ukrainian War Thread

[rsemmes]

Chasov Yar is rare exception, it is dominating height in the area and it is downhill for huge area after that. If they lose it, they would be forced to retreat up to Slavyansk-Kramatorsk area and would still be faced with unfavorable defense terrain. It is probably the most critical point if you want to hold what is left from Donbass under Ukrainian control.

I see your point but they don't have to retreat that far. Ishevka and Maiske are still in high ground, not to mention having Kostiantinivka and O-Drushkivka (industrial complex and some blocks N. of it) in the south flank. North of Bilokuszminivka the terrain rises again, we can see some (old, I guess) trenches there.
All that if Ukraine prepares the terrain for defence. Russia did in Robotine and both are ex-Soviet armies.

 

[Feanor]

I see your point but they don't have to retreat that far. Ishevka and Maiske are still in high ground, not to mention having Kostiantinivka and O-Drushkivka (industrial complex and some blocks N. of it) in the south flank. North of Bilokuszminivka the terrain rises again, we can see some (old, I guess) trenches there.
All that if Ukraine prepares the terrain for defence. Russia did in Robotine and both are ex-Soviet armies.

Well... you don't want your front line to be your best and only line. You want to have fall back options. And Ukraine is going to be utilizing these fallback options. There's also no evidence that Ukraine is taking greater casualties then Russia in Chasov Yar. So it's a logical place to put up a very stubborn defense with no real flanking threats. Again there are situations where Ukraine fails to withdraw in a timely manner resulting in terrible outcomes. The current situation in Velikaya Novoselka is a great example, it appears to be the first substantial encirclement of Ukrainian forces since '22. Similar problems occurred during the final stages of the fighting around Artemovsk/Bakhmut, Avdeevka, Kurakhovo, etc. Right now Russia is trying to create a similar scenario around the much larger Pokrovsk metropolitan area. But in Chasov Yar Russian forces are assaulting neighborhood by neighborhood against determined resistance fighting from prepared positions. Chasov Yar and Toretsk are places where it makes sense for Ukraine to put up this kind of a fight.

 

[hauritz]

Why Ukraine's all-drone, multi-domain attack could be a 'seminal' moment in warfare - Breaking Defense

A December operation exclusively featured weaponized uncrewed ground vehicles and FPV attack drones and did not feature any crewed platforms or boots on the ground, according to a speaker at the International Armoured Vehicle conference.

breakingdefense.com

Last December Ukraine pulled off what could be the first all drone multi domain attack against Russian forces. The result, while not exactly game changing, is still perhaps a seminal moment in modern warfare. The attack consisted entirely of armed uncrewed ground vehicles (UGVs) and FPV attack drones. While the effectiveness of this attack is not known it does indicate a continuing trend of using cheap, attritable drones rather than relying on boots on the ground. More emphasis as well on counter EW with constantly shifting drone operating frequencies and AI.

I expect we will eventually see the same from the Russians leading to the possibility of battles fought almost entirely with drones.

 

[seaspear]

Its been reported that to counter e.w, drones are now guided by as much as 40 kilometres of fibre ,,shown here to be difficult to counter it has the potential as in much of the world being largely not seen as a weapon to be of use to terrorists or assassin's

 

[Bob53]

Update from the TWZ…interesting to see other perspective of the same reports.

Russians Enter Last Major Ukrainian Stronghold In Key Eastern Sector

Ukraine Situation Report: Loss of Velyka Novosilka could pave the way for deeper Russian advances.

www.twz.com

 

[hauritz]

Its been reported that to counter e.w, drones are now guided by as much as 40 kilometres of fibre ,,shown here to be difficult to counter it has the potential as in much of the world being largely not seen as a weapon to be of use to terrorists or assassin's

The toughness of optical fibre can vary greatly. It is about the same width as a human hair but has many times its tensile strength. How strong depends on the fibre but I imagine they would probably just use commercial grade for drones.

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