Just watch this video from Kompas, come on, even the 'so call' defense anaylst still talk on 2009 Mirage 2000 grant/Hibah from Qatar. Is this quality of so call defense analysts in Indonesia? Again simple googling knows that Mirage F1 that's being offer by Qatar as grant in 2009. Logically also no country will offer to transfer their decade old assets.
The ones who talk negatives from parliament are coming from opposing political camps then Prabowo. Understandable as closing to ellection times, and more likely Prabowo will goes on tickets against their candidates. However the qualities on those defense analysts? Come on even my amateur understanding also know the deals packages is not just for the aircraft only. How depressing the qualities of this so call Indonesian Defense analysts. Still knowing those defense analysts/Insiders mostly also salesman, not surprising.
believe the real quote is 24 months at the latest
The way I see it, 24 mo at most for all packages come, install and operating in Pontianak Supadio AB. This is that many even those so call defense "analysts" conveniently forgot that the packages seems quite extensive. The packages as includes spare parts, and supporting infrastructure also trainings regimes plus weaponry, need times to be settled in Supadio. I'm quite sure that the facilities in Supadio AB also need to be adjusted.
The packages use third parties contractors which I believe not only making sure all the packages come, but also asses the conditions and how to operate them in Supadio. So in 'paper' seems this packages already answer all the negative comments on this deal.
Personally I don't support using Mirage 2K as the need to build suporting infrastructures from scratch. While F-16 more or less can just add on existing ones. However if the packages basically transfer all Qatar AF supporting infrastructure on Mirage 2K plus their weaponry packages, then it is more or lesd relative complete packages.
Prabowo claims that he had pursue used F-16 from a number of countries including Greece, Egypt, and the US, but none seems interested in selling their fleet.
Greece and Egypt will not going to sell their F-16, as it is part of their back bone assets and they're keep upgrading them. Base on news, if Ukranian will got any F-16, more likely will come from Netherlands and Norway phase out inventories.
US inventories need to be upgraded first, and USAF will not parted from their operational ones. Rumours say that Prabowo ask US from their Blk 40 or Blk 50 operational assets, which understandable US refuse. US willing to provide upgrades program from mothballs inventories, just like they are doing for those 24 F-16 C/D on Peace Bimasena 2 packages.
However seems if that the choices available, MinDef decide to upgrade those F-16C/D as they already done with F-16 A/B on EMLU program. LM already provide license for TNI-AU maintenance facilities doing EMLU. Rumours (again) talk the upgrade on F-16 C/D will be more extensive then F-16A/B as they will be giving Blk 70 standard avionics and sensors.
Whether if there will be other F-16 assets, seems it is still negotiating. Personally I do still hope they are ditch F-15ID for F-16V, although most indicators shown they're still pursuing this F-15ID. Do remember if they are doing it, most probable (even with next administration support) they are going to get by end of decades at most.
Got sense if they go with F-16V, they can get sooner. LM already have F-16V line running for export customers. While F-15ID will piggyback USAF F-15EX lines, in which at this moment still facing delay. So better with F-16V then pursuing this F-15ID.
Well, that's just my personal opinion as amateur defense enthusiasts.
