Russian Navy Discussions and Updates

[Feanor]

Three Russian nuke subs have come online. One is a new 885M, the Krasnoyarsk, another is the Irkutsk, the first of the upgraded 949AMs, and the third is the Smolensk, another 949A that underwent repairs surprisingly quickly (it went out for repairs in ~2019). For the Irkutsks, there remains some mystery if it got 48 or 72 Kalibr tubes to replace it's Granit. For the 885M, it's the third Yasen-M, and the fourth Yasen overall. 5 more of the type are under construction, and there is reason to think additional subs will get ordered.

Выздоровление "Смоленска"

. Выход в море любого нашего АПКР или ПЛА, особенно если выход не анонимный (один из или одна из, как любит шифровать пресс-служба Минобороны), а именной всегда праздник, и праздник вдвойне если выход групповой, а один из кораблей группы при этом довольно…

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"Иркутск": 20 лет спустя

. На днях в СМИ появилась информация от анонимного источника в кораблестроительной отрасли о том, что АПКР К-132 Иркутск, проходящий глубокую модернизацию в ДВЗ Звезда по проекту 949АМ, наконец-то вышел на заводские ходовые испытания ( ссылка 1 ). Положительную в целом…

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Атомный подводный крейсер «Красноярск» в море

Как сообщило информационное агентство ТАСС , 26 июня 2022 года из Северодвинска на заводские ходовые испытания впервые вышел в море завершенный строительством на АО Производственное объединение Северное машиностроительное предприятие (СМП, входит в состав АО Объединенная…

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[Sandhi Yudha]

At last.....on 8 July 2022 the Project 09852 submarine Belgorod, the longest submarine ever built and able to carry the huge Status-6/Poseidon nuclear-powered underwater torpedoes, has been handed over to the Russian Navy.

Sevmash Shipyard delivers Belgorod submarine with Poseidon torpedoes - Naval News

Russia's Sevmash shipyard ceremonially handed over the K-329 Belgorod submarine at the shipyard's facilities on July 08, 2022.

www.navalnews.com

 

[ngatimozart]

Sub Brief video on the Belgorod entrance into service.

Also report on pump jet Kilo SSK that's part of the Black Sea Fleet

 

[Sandhi Yudha]

Russia is developing a new “aircraft carrier killer”, a ballistic missile with a hypersonic warhead with the name Zmeevik, for the Navy.

One of the sources told TASS that in terms of its characteristics, the Zmeevik resembles Chinese missiles of a similar class — DF-21D and DF-26 with a range of up to 4,000 km. So its probably some kind of enlarged Islander-M.

Russia Develops Zmeevik Anti-Ship Ballistic Missile - Naval News

Russian media reported on efforts to develop the Zmeevik anti-ship ballistic missile to improve the country's coastal defences.

www.navalnews.com

 

[ngatimozart]

A couple of articles about VMF subs. Invasion markings have been spotted adorning some Russian subs lately. Russian Nuclear Missile Submarine Seen With Ukraine Invasion 'Z' - Naval News is the latest example. Also the newest Borei-A-class project 955A SSBN, "Generalissimus Suvorov" has sailed on builders trials, which are being held in the White Sea. Russia's Borei-A SSBN Generalissimus Suvorov begins factory trials - Naval News.

 

[Feanor]

There's an interesting Raptor gunboat variant recently sighted with Kornet ATGMs and Afghanit APS. It's unclear how well one would use a beam-riding missile like that from the sea. I also can't help but wonder, if Afghanit is ready for use, is a boat really the best place for it?

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Модернизированный катер типа «Раптор» с комплексом активной защиты и ракетным оружием

Как сообщили на веб-ресурсе forums.airbase.ru , 24 июля 2022 года в репетиции Главного Военно-морского парада в Санкт-Петербурге участвовал модернизированный катер проекта 03160 (шифр Раптор) ВМФ России. На катере в кормовой части установлены две четырехконтейнерные пусковые установки…

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A new 20380 corvette, the Merkuriy, started sea trials. The ship is meant for the Black Sea Fleet. If they had 3-6 of these before the war started, they may not have had to lose a cruiser.

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Russia has officially cancelled plans for 6 more 22160 patrol ships. It only took one war, where they demonstrated their highly limited utility. If only anyone had known in advance... but how could they? A ship with no SAM, no AShM, and no anti-submarine gear, in a fleet with a desperate shortage of all modern surface combatants.

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[Sandhi Yudha]

There's an interesting Raptor gunboat variant recently sighted with Kornet ATGMs and Afghanit APS. It's unclear how well one would use a beam-riding missile like that from the sea. I also can't help but wonder, if Afghanit is ready for use, is a boat really the best place for it?

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Модернизированный катер типа «Раптор» с комплексом активной защиты и ракетным оружием

Как сообщили на веб-ресурсе forums.airbase.ru , 24 июля 2022 года в репетиции Главного Военно-морского парада в Санкт-Петербурге участвовал модернизированный катер проекта 03160 (шифр Раптор) ВМФ России. На катере в кормовой части установлены две четырехконтейнерные пусковые установки…

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A new 20380 corvette, the Merkuriy, started sea trials. The ship is meant for the Black Sea Fleet. If they had 3-6 of these before the war started, they may not have had to lose a cruiser.

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Russia has officially cancelled plans for 6 more 22160 patrol ships. It only took one war, where they demonstrated their highly limited utility. If only anyone had known in advance... but how could they? A ship with no SAM, no AShM, and no anti-submarine gear, in a fleet with a desperate shortage of all modern surface combatants.

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The Project 22160s are maybe very usable as patrolboats, maybe even very capable, but yes they are quite defenceless in a war situation.


Hopefully not yet posted before in this thread, but here we have some recent photos of Admiral Kuznetsov under maintenance.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1553886359563157506

 

[Ananda]

Russia Reveals Radical New Stealth Missile Submarine - Naval News

Nuclear weapons are Russia's ultimate insurance policy against NATO intervention in Ukraine. As their importance is emphasised, an ambitious new ballistic missile submarine has been revealed. The design, with hints of the latest Western thinking, represents the next generation after the Borei class.

www.navalnews.com

HI Sutton article on news SSBN design from Rubin Bureau as follow up from current Borei SSBN. Alltough in this article he mention the chances of this design going to be build, however personally I'm not discounted yet.

Russian direction seems from what Russian defense analyst put will again put more emphasis on Submarine.

Vladimir Putin will modified the Russian shipbuilding program

According to information published by Tass on August 9, 2022, the Russian shipbuilding program may be modified following the approval of the Naval Doctrine

www.navyrecognition.com

So even with Borei still in development in could be later on new design also being prepared. Right now Borei basically being tandem with Soviet originate Delta IV class SSBN. So it is probable Borei later on being tandem with new design SSBN.

 

[Sandhi Yudha]

|"The detailed design will be soon presented to Russia’s Defense Ministry for approval,”|

I don't know what "soon" is, but one thing is sure, the Russian Navy needs a replacement for the Project 1164 cruisers as fast as possible.

USC to Present detailed design of Project 22350M Frigate to Russian MoD - Naval News

The Severnoye Design Bureau (part of the United Shipbuilding Corporation (USC)) will present a detailed design of the upgraded Project 22350M lead frigate to the Defense Ministry for approval

www.navalnews.com

The Zaliv Shipyard in the city of Kerch in Crimea is currently building the Project 23900 versatile helicopter carriers Ivan Rogov and Mitrofan Moskalenko for the Russian Navy. The ships were laid down in 2020 and are developed by the Zelenodolsk Design Bureau, so it is unclear why the Nevskoye Design Bureau now presents a new design of an amphibious assault ship.

Russia's Project 23900 LHD Model Unveiled by USC - Naval News

The Nevskoye Design Bureau (part of the United Shipbuilding Corporation (USC)) unveiled a model of the future Project 23900 LHD for the Russian Navy.

www.navalnews.com

 

[Ananda]

it is unclear why the Nevskoye Design Bureau now presents a new design of an amphibious assault ship.

Seems this is the evolution design from what they have learn toward Mistral project with French. It is seems have more resemblence with Mistral then current 23900.

Current conflict not only shown Russian Navy problem with anti SSM defense, but also lack enough amphibious assets to storm more defensive cities like Odessa. Both 22350M and this 23900M seems their answer for that.

 

[swerve]

They'd need a lot of LHDs to take a city like Odessa, & the LHDs would be within range of a lot of anti-ship missiles. I doubt the Russian navy is even dreaming about a fleet like that.

 

[Ananda]

doubt the Russian navy is even dreaming about a fleet like that.

Whether they can achieve or not, doesn't mean they are not trying to go toward that direction.

 

[swerve]

If they're thinking rationally I think they should be aiming at smaller-scale operations.

 

[Ananda]

Well Russian are not what you can call always thinking on logical term. Take a look on Putin directive for Russian fleet building:

Russia’s New Naval Doctrine: A ‘Pivot to Asia’?

Russia’s new maritime doctrine gives increasing importance to the Pacific and the Arctic.

thediplomat.com

Instead go more on under water capabilities to off set Western supremacies on surface flotilla (as rationaly thinking), they are 'still' aiming for larger presences in Mediterranean surface and this means Black Sea also. So..is this rational ? Well it's in the end still debatable.

Can they afford for all of that ? Even if this war outcome's in their advantage, I highly doubtful for all this directive as Putin put. They should go with more Subs on fleet denials, and more litoral fleet to safe guards those Subs on the area where they're most vulnerable, in the base.

 

[John Fedup]

Well Russian are not what you can call always thinking on logical term. Take a look on Putin directive for Russian fleet building:

Russia’s New Naval Doctrine: A ‘Pivot to Asia’?

Russia’s new maritime doctrine gives increasing importance to the Pacific and the Arctic.

thediplomat.com

Instead go more on under water capabilities to off set Western supremacies on surface flotilla (as rationaly thinking), they are 'still' aiming for larger presences in Mediterranean surface and this means Black Sea also. So..is this rational ? Well it's in the end still debatable.

Can they afford for all of that ? Even if this war outcome's in their advantage, I highly doubtful for all this directive as Putin put. They should go with more Subs on fleet denials, and more litoral fleet to safe guards those Subs on the area where they're most vulnerable, in the base.

Submarines are something Russia is good at, especially SSKs and their latest SSN/BNs are pretty decent. Best naval bang for the ruple is underwater.

 

[seaspear]

Of course much of the naval plans may depend on retaining the Crimean naval base for the Black sea fleet

 

[Feanor]

Update.

Two new 22800 small missile ships are on trials. While they're not the most impressive ships, they're definitely better then the 21631s. They have better seaworthiness and carry a navalized Pantsyr.

Новые малые ракетные корабли проекта 22800 на испытаниях

Как сообщают, в октябре 2022 года были начаты заводские ходовые испытания сразу двух новых малых ракетных кораблей проекта 22800 (шифр Каракурт), завершенных строительством для ВМФ России. На Балтийском море 15 октября совершил первый выход на испытания малый ракетный корабль…

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Another 636.3 sub, the Magadan, has joined the Pacific fleet. It's the 3rd improved Kilo in the Pacific fleet. While Russia has almost no way to replace major surface combatants, Russia can produce small vessels just fine. It's likely the future of the VMF will look more like this.

Новая подводная лодка «Магадан» прибыла во Владивосток

Как сообщила 9 октября 2022 года пресс-служба Восточного военного округа, новая большая дизель-электрическая подводная лодка Б-602 Магадан проекта 06363 Тихоокеанского флота (ТОФ) прибыла в пункт базирования во Владивосток. Подводная лодка завершила межфлотский переход с…

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The first border guard patrol icebreaker was launched for the FSB. It mirrors two similar ships being built for the VMF, which appear to be stuck, with handover dates for ~2025.

Спущен на воду пограничный сторожевой корабль ледового класса «Пурга» проекта 23550

7 октября 2022 года в Выборге на ПАО Выборгский судостроительный завод (входит в состав АО Объединённая судостроительная корпорация - ОСК) состоялась торжественная церемония спуска на воду строящегося для Береговой охраны Пограничной службы ФСБ Российской Федерации…

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After the heavy use, and losses, of Raptor patrol boats near Zmeiniy Island, Russia has shown off an upgraded version of the boat carrying a variant of the Afghanit APS, the same one used on the Armata series, and two Kornet-D blocks.

Модернизированный катер «Раптор 2.0»

Веб-ресурс Sudostroenie.info под заголовком Раптор 2.0. От патрульного к многофункциональному ударному катеру опубликовал материал о представленном АО Ленинградский судостроительный завод Пелла на проходящем Международном военно-техническом форуме…

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Настоящий "Боевик"(тм)

На Армии флот, понятное дело, мало что натурного представил, но кое-что было: Привезли ветерана боев на Русском море - катер Рептор (пр. 03160) - прямо из ремонта: В боях за Мариуполь катер несколько раз повреждался и под конец получил два прямых попадания в нос из…

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Another look at the 23900 landing ship model. Good question being whether it will ever get built.

Облик универсального десантного корабля проекта 23900

В экспозиции открывшегося 15 августа 2022 года в Кубинке восьмого Международного военно-технического форума Армия-2022 представлена модель, демонстрирующая облик строящихся для ВМФ России универсальных десантных кораблей проекта 23900. Проект разработан АО Зеленодольское…

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[Sandhi Yudha]

This november seems to be the month of survey/research vessels. After the launch of "Ikshak" for the Indian Navy on 26 November 2022 and after "Zr.Ms Hydrograaf" joins the Royal Netherlands Navy, Project 19920 hydrographic survey boat Anatoly Knyazev recently joined the Baltic Fleet of the Russian Navy.

Project 19920 large hydrographic boats are multifunctional vessels with a wide range of capabilities. They are designed to conduct hydrographic survey of the seabed and water areas and service coastal facilities of the Navy’s navigation and hydrographic support system.

The Anatoly Knyazev is regarded as a "large hydrographic boat", but with a length of 36,4 m it is quite small compared to other Russian research/survey vessels. It is also completely unarmed, so performing surveys near the coast of Odessa wouldn't be a smart move at this moment.

Hydrographic Survey Boat 'Anatoly Knyazev' Joins Russian Navy - Naval News

The Project 19920 large hydrographic boat "Anatoly Knyazev" joined the Russian Navy's Baltic Fleet, according to the Russian Defense Ministry.

www.navalnews.com

 

[ngatimozart]

Admiral Nikolai Evmenov, Commander-in-Chief of VMF has reported that the VMF "successfully completed all the tasks of combat and operational training set for 2022". As H I Sutton states does this include the sinking of the Slava Class cruiser Moskva?

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1597329646273826816

 

[Redlands18]

Admiral Nikolai Evmenov, Commander-in-Chief of VMF has reported that the VMF "successfully completed all the tasks of combat and operational training set for 2022". As H I Sutton states does this include the sinking of the Slava Class cruiser Moskva?

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1597329646273826816

So the Russian Navy had planned a SINKEX for 2022, so nice of the Ukrainians to provide the Missiles and make it so realistic.