A very silly article. India would have no interest in F-35C unless they also want to buy US made catapults and redesign their future carriers to take those catapults. Also F-35C can't land vertically.
Indian Navy keen to buy newer generation aircraft
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I thought the new India carrier designs was going to have arrest wires and maybe catapults?
Arresting wires and a ski jump.
My question is this. I've seen repeated reports that India is indeed opting for the additional 29 MiG-29Ks, on top of the initial 16. How accurate are these news? And if they are accurate, does Indian Naval Aviation have the budget and force org. to accomodate an additional purchase?
I suspect not. Especially granted how the contendents supposedly put forth are all highly unlikely, some flat out impossible. But I would appreciate commentary from someone who knows a little more about the Indian side of the question.
I suspect not. Especially granted how the contendents supposedly put forth are all highly unlikely, some flat out impossible. But I would appreciate commentary from someone who knows a little more about the Indian side of the question.
Well, India is planning for 3 Carriers, One Russian, One ADS - already Building - 40T and One is now start building 45-50T by 2018 India will have 3 Aircraft Carrier ,
16 +16 + 25 =57 also Need Some reserve also and some will be flying from Land bases.
dragonfire
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I think the IN is being subjected to speculation based on lack of information; the Naval fighter reports have come out with atleast 10 days gap; There were no indications abt the JSF in the first reports; then there was the seculation about the British AC being bought by India. Afterwards the RFI report came out again this time the JSF was also being pursued !
I searched the official Press Information Bureau but there were no official press releases abt the RFI issued for fighters
However in the first report the media is confirming from a couple of manufacurers that they have recieved a generic RFI - so its not all smoke without fire
s.raptorski
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the rfi is for the second IAC which is said to be in the range of 60-70k tonnes. although even i think information about JSF is most probably a mistake....but any thing is possible...may be they want to be the best in the region and hence this rfi...
16 Initial one include 4 trainers and 12 single seat fighters for what would be INS Vikramaditya (someday), if the next IAC (Project 71) carrier has another 12 + 4, that takes the total up to 36 still leaves a space for 9, possibly land based attrition reserves, the sea harriers keep dissappearing @ 1 each year on account of accidents.
The next carrier from project 71 (as a post here stated) will have its own planes, so if the government has given the money for the carrier, i think they must have included the money requried to get some airplanes and helicopters.
What i made from the news reports and interviews of the admirals the old plan was to have the gorskov replace the current carrier and to keep it in service till three indigenous carriers were complete (one with each fleet and one under rapair in the dock), i guess with the gorskov being delayed the plans might have changed.
Another Interesting observation is that Indian Navy chose Israeli medirum range missile (Derby) for the sea harrier update and they have chosen the same missile for integration with the two naval Tejas (LCA program) prototypes they (the Indian Navy) have financed.
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dragonfire
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I think that is the way the IN is thinking they know they can always fall back on the original choice which the Mig-29 K is, the RFI is to understand the other options which can be explored. The IN has already ordered for 6 Naval LCAs so that HAL can start manufacturing the fighters (also the LCA is Tejas) not teja
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Thanks for the article in your previous post.
BTW, Happy New Year to all forum members. I also hope that in the New Year, Indian procurement programmes will proceed without undue delay.
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the hal tejas naval version costs 31 million and the MIG-29K costs about 47million. the MIG is a better option for india even if it is expencive. it is a proven combat system unlike the teja also the tejas price can go spiralling up at any time if its project cost increases and it is absolutely unproven. the MIG-29k has also been ordered by Russia. India has great experience from operating the Mig-29. Ithe Mig-29 provided India with the fighter edge over Pakistani F-16s in the Kargil war. India i think will order more MIg-29Ks in the future
dragonfire
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Although the Mig-29 is proven platform the Mig-29 K is a new platform and the Indian Navy is the first Customer, no doubt it will be better platform than the Naval Tejas though since the K is based on a proven airframe
India will definitely order more Ks for the first IAC ( / ADS) it is speculated that an order for 29 fighters both the K and KUB will issued
Tejas Naval is at prototype stage and the prototypes are not complete, i think putting a cost on the type is a bit difficult.
The navy is far far away from purchasing any Tejas Naval planes for itself, however they have funded the development of the plane, which is a good step to promote indigenous skills, and if something worthwhile comes out of the project the Navy will support it and order some for its air arm.
dragonfire
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The Indian Navy has already placed an order for 6 Naval LCA Tejas. Albeit the ordered aircraft are not intended to fly from carriers it will serve as a test bed and land based training tool for Naval fighter pilots. After the new engine is selected the Navy will upgrade the same fighters with the new engine for operational deployments off carriers
So you know for certain that an order has been placed? I've heard rumors, speculations, and statements of intent from officials. But no contract or delivery dates. Source would be helpful.the Russian navy also ordered 24 MIG-29Ks, because it is cheaper as opening the SU-33 lines again will be very expensive
it said so on RIA NOVOSTI and Wikpedia, according to them the Russian navy thinks that reopening the SU-33 lines again will be very expensive and that the MIG-29Ks will replace all SU-33 as the Mainstay Fighter aircraft aboard the Admiral Kuznetov