Which Aircraft Should PAF opt for? [Recent F-16 deal news, etc]
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Re: Which Aircraft Should PAF opt for?
Don't forget to read this:
http://defencetalk.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=1228
And make it a habit.
P.A.F said:i can't find one at the moment but as soon as i get it i will post it for the people who really think that the jf-17's BVR capibilities are better then that of the su-30MKI's :rotfl.
for god shake. the SU-30 is a aircraft to be compared with the euro-fighter, rafale, gripen,f-16 and yet some people come along saying that the jf-17's bvr is superior to the su-30's: . man that makes me laugh
Don't forget to read this:
http://defencetalk.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=1228
And make it a habit.
Your point of view is welcomed but when you get into the technical side. Obviously, you read it somewhere so the source of that technical information is required not just for this case but all other, whatever that maybe.
If you provide the source along with the claim, we can avoid these "baby sitting directional" posts from me explaining you the importance of posting the source along with your information.
If you provide the source along with the claim, we can avoid these "baby sitting directional" posts from me explaining you the importance of posting the source along with your information.
It doesn't matter. The information is for the general user who visits this board. Plus providing the source is better than not providing it. It keeps you safe, keeps the discussion healthy and I seriously don't like telling people how they should post so they should show some responsiblity on their own when it comes to following the rules.
If you don't have the source of your information just say you don't have the source so everyone know from what point of view you are talking about.
Also, don't assume we all know everything and since everyone knows everything you don't have to post the link. That is not a great way to think. If we didn't need the source of information, I wouldn't have posted this thread on top of the page so that everone see, apparently, you did not.
http://defencetalk.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=1228
Now, post the source or your future replies will be deleted in this thread. I am already pissed that you have taken the discussion into another direction with your childish posts and questions.
If you don't have the source of your information just say you don't have the source so everyone know from what point of view you are talking about.
Also, don't assume we all know everything and since everyone knows everything you don't have to post the link. That is not a great way to think. If we didn't need the source of information, I wouldn't have posted this thread on top of the page so that everone see, apparently, you did not.
http://defencetalk.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=1228
Now, post the source or your future replies will be deleted in this thread. I am already pissed that you have taken the discussion into another direction with your childish posts and questions.
So, the bottom line is you do no thave the source to back your self up. It turns out you were just saying whatever you said on your own without doing any research into the subject.
Anyhow, end of the story indeed. Continue with other aspects of the topic now.
Anyhow, end of the story indeed. Continue with other aspects of the topic now.
If i was wrong, you would have had your sources and research all together. You did not do any research on your own nor do you have any sources of whatever you are claiming. That is what is wrong here. End of the story.
Don't post in this thread unless you know what you are talking about.
Don't post in this thread unless you know what you are talking about.
princefaisal
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Re: Which Aircraft Should PAF opt for?
Pakistan should consider the following:-
1) Get the MLU for its F-16s with Grifo-2000 radar (under TOT) and the whole MLU must be done at kamra. In this exercise, we will be able to integrate SD-10, T-Darter and other BVR missiles into F-16.
2) Get J-10 as soon as possible so that we can replace its radar with Grifo-2000 radar from indigenous expertise. J-10 can be converted to any role from air-to-air to air-to-ground. J-10 can also be given anti-ship missions just like we gave this to Mirages. J-10 can hold more payload than most of aircrafts like Mirages, A-5. As estimated, J-10’s maximum taking-off weight is around 18 tons, including 7 tons of weapons, equivalent to that of heavy fighter B-29 used during the World War II, and this is quite distinguished among light fighters. With strong external loading capacity it can effectively launch attacks towards the ground and sea. Twin-engine naval variant of the J-10 will soon be available. Also J-10 has 11 hard-points greater than almost all the fighters available in our inventory. With large engine thrust and canards, it is more agile than any other fighter of our inventory. Also it can be easily upgraded to Pak standards. We can integrate latest avionics system into J-10 just we will do in the case of JF-17.
3) We shall induct different weapons system from different sources for our aircrafts for more reliability and less dependency on others. Like T-darter for Mirages & JF-17, SD-10 & A-Darter for all aircrafts, Ukrainian BVR’s for specified aircrafts. In this way, there will be competition between the vendors and they will provide new variations and new releases. But the best thing is that we should bring all with TOT.
4) For JF-17, once we get Tot of all its equipment, we should consider upgrading this aircraft like installing composite material with the help of South Africa, more refined material can be used in the engine with the help of Ukraine. I mean to say that quality of the aircraft should never be compromised. Proper placement of equipment, right equipment with compact design, easier handling and maintenance, composite material for lighter weight, high-speed processors with parallel processing, FBW and latest radar can make the fighter aircraft more deadly.
Pakistan should consider the following:-
1) Get the MLU for its F-16s with Grifo-2000 radar (under TOT) and the whole MLU must be done at kamra. In this exercise, we will be able to integrate SD-10, T-Darter and other BVR missiles into F-16.
2) Get J-10 as soon as possible so that we can replace its radar with Grifo-2000 radar from indigenous expertise. J-10 can be converted to any role from air-to-air to air-to-ground. J-10 can also be given anti-ship missions just like we gave this to Mirages. J-10 can hold more payload than most of aircrafts like Mirages, A-5. As estimated, J-10’s maximum taking-off weight is around 18 tons, including 7 tons of weapons, equivalent to that of heavy fighter B-29 used during the World War II, and this is quite distinguished among light fighters. With strong external loading capacity it can effectively launch attacks towards the ground and sea. Twin-engine naval variant of the J-10 will soon be available. Also J-10 has 11 hard-points greater than almost all the fighters available in our inventory. With large engine thrust and canards, it is more agile than any other fighter of our inventory. Also it can be easily upgraded to Pak standards. We can integrate latest avionics system into J-10 just we will do in the case of JF-17.
3) We shall induct different weapons system from different sources for our aircrafts for more reliability and less dependency on others. Like T-darter for Mirages & JF-17, SD-10 & A-Darter for all aircrafts, Ukrainian BVR’s for specified aircrafts. In this way, there will be competition between the vendors and they will provide new variations and new releases. But the best thing is that we should bring all with TOT.
4) For JF-17, once we get Tot of all its equipment, we should consider upgrading this aircraft like installing composite material with the help of South Africa, more refined material can be used in the engine with the help of Ukraine. I mean to say that quality of the aircraft should never be compromised. Proper placement of equipment, right equipment with compact design, easier handling and maintenance, composite material for lighter weight, high-speed processors with parallel processing, FBW and latest radar can make the fighter aircraft more deadly.
Re: Which Aircraft Should PAF opt for?
HuH!! North Korean cant afford rocket fuel & Jet fuel, how they r going to buy fighter Jets of 4th Generation like J-10, north wont even be able to buy JF-17. They r only holding on to Missiles & thts the only thing stopping US troops in South from crossing the border.
Pakistan is not North Korea. We have different relation with China. J-10 wont be denied to us. We r going to be the 2nd country after China to induct J-10 in our Air force (& than we will try it against our enemies hohahah !: ---sorry for that).
Anyways we might also get technology & setup our assembly here in Pakistan for J-10. That will make us second country to produce J-10.
(Sri dont ask lame question for which u already have answers & quwstions that dont make sense at all----sorry admin just this time plz)
srirangan said:
HuH!! North Korean cant afford rocket fuel & Jet fuel, how they r going to buy fighter Jets of 4th Generation like J-10, north wont even be able to buy JF-17. They r only holding on to Missiles & thts the only thing stopping US troops in South from crossing the border.
Pakistan is not North Korea. We have different relation with China. J-10 wont be denied to us. We r going to be the 2nd country after China to induct J-10 in our Air force (& than we will try it against our enemies hohahah !
: ---sorry for that). Anyways we might also get technology & setup our assembly here in Pakistan for J-10. That will make us second country to produce J-10.
(Sri dont ask lame question for which u already have answers & quwstions that dont make sense at all----sorry admin just this time plz)