Russian Navy Discussions and Updates

[Feanor]

Updates.

An interesting infographic and article came out on the project 23900 LHD. The article in particular claims that the LHD will be a hub for controlling UAVs and unmanned submersibles in addition to an airgroup of 15-20 helos. The infographic also lists the tonnage at 40 000. Information that has been coming out suggests that the requirements for the type have gone up and the size has as well, to match. We also have the first decent picture of it, though it doesn't look like the images released in the past. In fact it looks almost like the Lavina helo-carrier shown off by Krylov.

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Minister of Defense Shoygu visited the Admiral Kuznetsov and commented on the current tempo of rebuilding the dry-dock at the 35th repair plant, stating that it needs to go faster.

Шойгу потребовал нарастить темпы реконструкции сухого дока 35-го судоремонтного завода

Как сообщило 13 апреля 2021 года информационное агентство ТАСС , Министр обороны Российской Федерации Сергей Шойгу потребовал нарастить темпы и качество работ при реконструкции и техническом перевооружении сухого дока 35-го судоремонтного завода, расположенного в Мурманске, проект реализует Центр…

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It appears that Russia intends to extend the service life of existing nuclear ice-breakers even with the construction of the new ships. The plan is to have 3 old ships, 5 new Artika class and 1 new Lider class by 2030.

Россия может продолжить наращивание атомного ледокольного флота

Как сообщила газета Морские вести России , после 2030 года Россия может продолжить наращивание атомного ледокольного флота. А в частности, построить четыре ледокола: два атомохода проекта 22220 типа Арктика и два судна проекта 10510 типа Лидер.…

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Also apparently Turkey is being contracted to build a floating dock for Russian nuclear ice-breakers.

Турецкая верфь построит плавучий док для российских атомных ледоколов

Как сообщает газета Коммерсантъ в материале Анастасии Веденеевой Атомные ледоколы найдут док в Турции. Kyzey Star построит его для Атомфлота за 5 млрд рублей , турецкая верфь Kyzey Star Shipyard стала победителем конкурса на строительство плавучего дока за…

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The third 636.3 has been launched, for the Pacific fleet.

Спущена на воду подводная лодка Б-602 «Магадан» проекта 06363

26 марта 2021 года в Санкт-Петербурге на АО Адмиралтейские верфи (входит в состав АО Объединенная судостроительная корпорация - ОСК) состоялась церемония спуска на воду строящейся для Военно-морского флота Российской Федерации большой дизель-электрической подводной лодки…

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The Black Sea Fleet has conducted joint training exercises between anti-submarine warfare ships and coastal AShMs.

На Черноморском флоте прошло совместное учение отряда малых противолодочных кораблей и боевого расчёта БРК «Утёс» : Министерство обороны Российской Федерации

МПК «Суздалец» и «Касимов», а также боевого расчёта берегового ракетного комплекса шахтного базирования отработали действия по отражению зенитными средствами ракетного удара условного противника.

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Group exercises for Il-38s including at least one Il-38N were conducted by the Pacific fleet, included simulated mass mine-laying and dropping of depth charges.

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[Sandhi Yudha]

Updates.

An interesting infographic and article came out on the project 23900 LHD. The article in particular claims that the LHD will be a hub for controlling UAVs and unmanned submersibles in addition to an airgroup of 15-20 helos. The infographic also lists the tonnage at 40 000. Information that has been coming out suggests that the requirements for the type have gone up and the size has as well, to match. We also have the first decent picture of it, though it doesn't look like the images released in the past. In fact it looks almost like the Lavina helo-carrier shown off by Krylov.

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Minister of Defense Shoygu visited the Admiral Kuznetsov and commented on the current tempo of rebuilding the dry-dock at the 35th repair plant, stating that it needs to go faster.

Шойгу потребовал нарастить темпы реконструкции сухого дока 35-го судоремонтного завода

Как сообщило 13 апреля 2021 года информационное агентство ТАСС , Министр обороны Российской Федерации Сергей Шойгу потребовал нарастить темпы и качество работ при реконструкции и техническом перевооружении сухого дока 35-го судоремонтного завода, расположенного в Мурманске, проект реализует Центр…

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It appears that Russia intends to extend the service life of existing nuclear ice-breakers even with the construction of the new ships. The plan is to have 3 old ships, 5 new Artika class and 1 new Lider class by 2030.

Россия может продолжить наращивание атомного ледокольного флота

Как сообщила газета Морские вести России , после 2030 года Россия может продолжить наращивание атомного ледокольного флота. А в частности, построить четыре ледокола: два атомохода проекта 22220 типа Арктика и два судна проекта 10510 типа Лидер.…

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Also apparently Turkey is being contracted to build a floating dock for Russian nuclear ice-breakers.

Турецкая верфь построит плавучий док для российских атомных ледоколов

Как сообщает газета Коммерсантъ в материале Анастасии Веденеевой Атомные ледоколы найдут док в Турции. Kyzey Star построит его для Атомфлота за 5 млрд рублей , турецкая верфь Kyzey Star Shipyard стала победителем конкурса на строительство плавучего дока за…

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The third 636.3 has been launched, for the Pacific fleet.

Спущена на воду подводная лодка Б-602 «Магадан» проекта 06363

26 марта 2021 года в Санкт-Петербурге на АО Адмиралтейские верфи (входит в состав АО Объединенная судостроительная корпорация - ОСК) состоялась церемония спуска на воду строящейся для Военно-морского флота Российской Федерации большой дизель-электрической подводной лодки…

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The Black Sea Fleet has conducted joint training exercises between anti-submarine warfare ships and coastal AShMs.

На Черноморском флоте прошло совместное учение отряда малых противолодочных кораблей и боевого расчёта БРК «Утёс» : Министерство обороны Российской Федерации

МПК «Суздалец» и «Касимов», а также боевого расчёта берегового ракетного комплекса шахтного базирования отработали действия по отражению зенитными средствами ракетного удара условного противника.

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Group exercises for Il-38s including at least one Il-38N were conducted by the Pacific fleet, included simulated mass mine-laying and dropping of depth charges.

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Thankyou for sharing.
I saw here that they are talking about operating 4 S-70 Okhotniks on the Project 23900.

Источник: на заводе "Залив" начали формировать корпуса будущих кораблей-вертолетоносцев

Работа ведется с учетом опыта, полученного при строительстве кораблей типа "Мистраль", отметил собеседник ТАСС

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I dont understand Russian, but how they want to do that? As far as i know, this S-70 is a conventional take-off and landing UCAV.

 

[John Fedup]

Perhaps OT for this thread but this article describes a concept for a submersible patrol ship. Can’t imagine it has the speed for interdiction unless it can surface and deploy its small craft fast enough. Still, could be useful if the price is right.

Russia develops submersible patrol ship

Russia-based submarine designer Rubin Design Bureau revealed it has developed a submersible patrol ship combining the features of a submarine and a surface patrol vessel.

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[Feanor]

Thankyou for sharing.
I saw here that they are talking about operating 4 S-70 Okhotniks on the Project 23900.

Источник: на заводе "Залив" начали формировать корпуса будущих кораблей-вертолетоносцев

Работа ведется с учетом опыта, полученного при строительстве кораблей типа "Мистраль", отметил собеседник ТАСС

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I dont understand Russian, but how they want to do that? As far as i know, this S-70 is a conventional take-off and landing UCAV.

You understand correctly and it looks just as strange as you think. There are a couple of possibilities here. One of them being that the requirements for the type have slowly but surely shifted it from a helo-carrier to a light aircraft carrier, if not for large twin-engine manned jets, at least for UCAVs. Another is that the type can launch an S-70 but not recover it (meaning the aircraft, once completing its mission would have to find a friendly airstrip). A third is that this is simple speculation by someone profoundly ignorant or even intentional misinformation. You'll notice the displacement is listed now at 40 000 tonns. This is almost double that of a Mistral.

Overall the more information comes out about the 23900 the more I'm getting the feeling that this is another Ivan Gren situation where the MoD is changing the requirements for the ship even as construction is ongoing.

 

[SolarWind]

Thankyou for sharing.
I saw here that they are talking about operating 4 S-70 Okhotniks on the Project 23900.

Источник: на заводе "Залив" начали формировать корпуса будущих кораблей-вертолетоносцев

Работа ведется с учетом опыта, полученного при строительстве кораблей типа "Мистраль", отметил собеседник ТАСС

tass.ru

I dont understand Russian, but how they want to do that? As far as i know, this S-70 is a conventional take-off and landing UCAV.

An "expert" opinion is that the low observability Okhotnik UAV will be used for long-range targeting with Kalibr-class and Zirkon missiles. It would make sense to base such a UAV on a navy vessel in context of using it for navy missile targeting.

Названа главная задача ведомого Су-57

Российский ударно-разведывательный беспилотный летательный аппарат (БПЛА) С-70 «Охотник», выступающий ведомым истребителя пятого поколения Су-57, позволит ракетам «Калибр» или «Циркон» «бить точно в цель за тысячи километров», заявил РИА Новости военный эксперт Алексей Леонков.

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[Feanor]

An "expert" opinion is that the low observability Okhotnik UAV will be used for long-range targeting with Kalibr-class and Zirkon missiles. It would make sense to base such a UAV on a navy vessel in context of using it for navy missile targeting.

Названа главная задача ведомого Су-57

Российский ударно-разведывательный беспилотный летательный аппарат (БПЛА) С-70 «Охотник», выступающий ведомым истребителя пятого поколения Су-57, позволит ракетам «Калибр» или «Циркон» «бить точно в цель за тысячи километров», заявил РИА Новости военный эксперт Алексей Леонков.

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Sure. On the other hand if they're serious about improving situational awareness for naval taskforces, they could purchase the Ka-31R. It can operate from 22350s or 1155s, not to mention the 11711M... and of course the new 23900 too. To top it off it already exists. Certainly much cheaper for the cash-strapped AVMF.

 

[Sandhi Yudha]

Russia's Khabarovsk Submarine to be Launched in Fall 2021 - Naval News

The Khabarovsk nuclear submarine (project 09851), which is the second sub designed to carry the Poseidon underwater craft, will be floated in autumn, a defense industry source told TASS.

www.navalnews.com

|" The Khabarovsk nuclear submarine (project 09851), which is the second sub designed to carry the Poseidon underwater craft, will be floated in autumn, a defense industry source told TASS. "|


I couldn't find this newsreport on ITAR-TASS, so no much information can be revealed here.
In stead of the Project 09852 which is an enlarged 949A, the 09851 seems to be based on the 955. But it is interesting to see that the Russian Navy wants to experiment with two different types of submarines as the launch platform for the 2M39 Poseidon/ Status-6.

 

[IPCR_quad]

A new navy Ka-52K documentary from Rosoboronexport dated to Apr 19, 2021. The new EO is jointly developed with SAGEM and has better range and resolution than that fitted on first generation air force Ka-52, and is shared with the upcoming air force Ka-52M.

 

[SolarWind]

Marshall Shaposhnikov of project 1155M is reported to have concluded all factory tests after servicing and refit and rejoined the Pacific Fleet.

"Маршал Шапошников" вернулся в строй после модернизации

Фрегат "Маршал Шапошников" (ранее – большой противолодочный корабль проекта 1155) завершил программу заводских испытаний после ремонта и модернизации и включен в состав сил постоянной готовности Тихоокеанского флота. Как сообщили во вторник, 27 апреля, в пресс-службе Минобороны РФ, в море...

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[SolarWind]

A video surfaced of an unsuccessful launch by the 1155M Shaposhnikov of a Kalibr missile.

 

[Sandhi Yudha]

A video surfaced of an unsuccessful launch by the 1155M Shaposhnikov of a Kalibr missile.

Awesome....sadly missile launch failures are not often released to the public.
(With exception of Space X failures)

 

[ngatimozart]

The bridge team on the Shaposhnikov would be requiring a change of underwear after that. Not a nice thing to happen so close aboard.

 

[Sandhi Yudha]

The Russian Navy is reported to receive approximately 30 Project 12700 MCM vessels through 2050; so these platforms will form in the future the backbone of the military service’s mine-hunting component.

There are no export costumers yet, but the export-oriented variant of the Alexandrite-class minehunter is designated as Project 12701 Alexandrite-E-class MCM vessel.

I know nothing about MCM-equipment, but the list of systems onboard sounds impressive.

The Alexandrite-E’s sensor suite integrates the Diez-12700E control system, Livadiya-ME mine detection sonar, two Alister 9 counter-mine unmanned underwater vehicles (UUVs), two K-Ster I UUVs, 10 K-Ster C disposable remotely operated vehicles, an Inspector-Mk.2 unmanned surface vehicle, a GKT-2 or GOKT-1 contact mine sweep system, and a ShAT-U sonar mine sweep system. The Project 12701 MCM vessel also carries some armaments, including an AK-306 30 mm close-in weapon system, eight short-range surface-to-air missiles, and an MTPU naval gun mount with a 14.5 mm heavy machinegun (this weapon system can be replaced by two 6P59 12.7 mm heavy machineguns). It should be mentioned that the Alexandrite-E is capable of using both traditional minesweeping systems and cutting-edge robotized MCM systems. The platform also has high seaworthiness.

Russian Navy to receive about 30 Project 12700 minehunters through 2050 - Naval News

The Russian Navy (VMF) is reinforcing its mine countermeasures (MCM) capabilities, according to the country’s Ministry of Defense (MoD).

www.navalnews.com

Russia's latest nuclear submarine, the K-561 Kazan, is commissioned on 5 May 2021. Its the second submarine after the first of class K-560 Severodvinsk and the first of the Project 885M Yasen-M variant.

Russia's New SSGN Submarine Kazan Commissioned into Northern Fleet - Naval News

Russian Navy Commander-in-Chief Admiral Nikolai Yevmenov lead the ceremony at Sevmash Shipyard to accept into service the Kazan Yasen-M-class SSGN of project 885M, the Defense Ministry said.

www.navalnews.com

Edit
Here some photos of the K-561 Kazan.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1390601922441326593

 

[Sandhi Yudha]

The Project 03182 small seagoing tanker Vice Admiral Paromov has entered service with the Black Sea Fleet at the fleet’s main base in Sevastopol in the Crimea.

The first two vessels are being built in Nizhny Novgorod for the Black Sea fleet. Another two are under construction in Vladivostok for the Pacific fleet. They are quite small in size for a seagoing tanker, but it seems that these vessels are really multipurpose. Besides oil replenishment and other logistic activities it is capable to carry out multiple other tasks. They can even operate in Arctic seas in 0,6-0,8-meter thick ice.

First Project 03182 Tanker Joins Russia’s Black Sea Fleet - Naval News

The Project 03182 small seagoing tanker Vice Admiral Paromov has entered service with the Black Sea Fleet at the fleet’s main base in Sevastopol in the Crimea, the Defense Ministry’s press office said.

www.navalnews.com

A nice video of this new ship in this link.

The Black Sea Fleet has been replenished with a small sea tanker "Vice-Admiral Paromov" of project 03182

The Black Sea Fleet was replenished with a small sea tanker "Vice-Admiral Paromov" of project 03182. The ceremony took place on May 29 in Sevastopol near the Mine Wall. The new tanker became part of the Black Sea Fleet support ships detachment. He is the lead in a series of four tankers of this...

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Besides the small Project 03182 seagoing tankers, two larger replenishment oiler classes are under construction for the Russian Navy: the 23130 and 23131. The Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation also ordered a series of three Project 23120-class ice-capable logistics support vessels, from which the first one is already in active service.

 

[Feanor]

Update.

The fist project 2036M arms transport has been launched. It's a 3600 tonn transport for carrying munitions with a reinforced hull for sailing in Arctic waters.

Спущен на воду головной морской транспорт вооружения «Геннадий Дмитриев» проекта 20360М

1 июня 2021 года в Рыбинске (Ярославская область) на АО Судостроительный завод Вымпел состоялась официальная церемония спуска на воду строящегося для ВМФ России головного морского транспорта вооружения проекта 20360М Геннадий Дмитриев (заводской номер 01551). Сам…

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The 5th Borey, and 2nd Borey-A, Knyaz Oleg has begun sea trials. Production of the type is arguably the most successful large ship building program of the VMF.

Атомный подводный ракетный крейсер «Князь Олег» в море

Как сообщают, 30 мая 2021 года из Северодвинска на заводские ходовые испытания впервые вышел в море завершенный строительством на АО Производственное объединение Северное машиностроительное предприятие (СМП, входит в состав АО Объединенная судостроительная…

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The Retiviy modified project 20380 is set to complete trials this year and join the Black Sea Fleet. It will be the 9th 20380/20385 corvette in service. The crew is getting ready to move in.

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The Admiral Grigoryevich frigate used the Tor-M2KM in exercises. It's likely that it was fired from the heli-pad.

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The AVMF is getting ready to take delivery of the Yak-130 jet trainer.

Полетная парта: флотские летчики получат новые учебно-боевые Як-130

Минобороны планирует заключить масштабный контракт на поставку тренировочных самолетов с цифровой системой управления

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It looks like the AVMF may also be first to receive the Su-30SM2. This is an Su-30SM variant with the engines and possibly radar of the Su-35S making it basically a two-seater variant of the type.

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The Admiral Kuznetsov aircraft carrier may be receiving a new and not fully tested radar complex, a domesticated version of what they provided India.

"Адмирал Кузнецов" может получить не в полной мере испытанный радиотехнический комплекс

По данным источника, на авианосце в ходе ремонта предполагается замена старого комплекса "Резистор-К42" на новый "Резистор-Э"

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The 6th 12700 mine trawler has been launched. Handover is expected before the end of the year.

Спущен на воду базовый тральщик «Пётр Ильичёв» проекта 12700

28 апреля 2021 года на АО Средне-Невский судостроительный завод (СНСЗ, входит в АО Объединенная судостроительная корпорация - ОСК) в Санкт-Петербурге состоялась церемония спуска на воду строящегося для ВМФ России корабля противоминной обороны (базового тральщика)…

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A look at the Shuya, a small missile ship whose normal SAM has been replaced by a navalized Pantsyr. Note the new mast-radar.

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[Sandhi Yudha]

So starting from third of class Admiral Golovko, the Project 22350 frigates will be equipped with a M55R fully Russian-made power plant. The Lyulka-Saturn M55R consists of M90FR gas-turbine engine of maximum 27500 HP capacity, 10D49 diesel engine of 5200 HP, RO55R reducer and transmission.

Russian Navy's Project 22350 Frigates To Be Equipped With Russian-Made Engines - Naval News

The Russian Navy command said the Northern fleet would receive the Admiral Golovko second serial frigate of project 22350 in 2022. It will be powered by a fully Russian-made plant, which replaced imports, TASS reports.

www.navalnews.com

Any possible construction of the Project 22350M will only start after 2022, when the upgrade of the Severnaya Werf is finished.

Development Of Future Russian Navy's Project 22350M Frigate Is Underway - Naval News

R&D work on Project 22350M ships is underway, CEO of the United Shipbuilding Corporation (USC) Alexei Rakhmanov told TASS.

www.navalnews.com

 

[Sandhi Yudha]

The plan is to return the ship in end 2023 to the navy, but i will be not surprised if we have to wait one more year because of the whole Covid-19 crises. Hopefully there will be no more accidents or fires.

Russian Aircraft Carrier To Rejoin The Fleet In Late 2023 - Naval News

The Admiral Kuznetsov aircraft carrier of project 11435 will complete the overhaul and upgrade in 2023 and will rejoin the Navy in the end of the year, Vice President of the United Shipbuilding Corporation (USC) Vladimir Korolev told TASS at the Navy salon.

www.navalnews.com

 

[John Fedup]

The plan is to return the ship in end 2023 to the navy, but i will be not surprised if we have to wait one more year because of the whole Covid-19 crises. Hopefully there will be no more accidents or fires.

Russian Aircraft Carrier To Rejoin The Fleet In Late 2023 - Naval News

The Admiral Kuznetsov aircraft carrier of project 11435 will complete the overhaul and upgrade in 2023 and will rejoin the Navy in the end of the year, Vice President of the United Shipbuilding Corporation (USC) Vladimir Korolev told TASS at the Navy salon.

www.navalnews.com

Power plant replacement, with what I wonder? I guess from just an environmental POV, a win and militarily, getting rid of the huge smoke trail doesn’t hurt.

 

[Sandhi Yudha]

Power plant replacement, with what I wonder? I guess from just an environmental POV, a win and militarily, getting rid of the huge smoke trail doesn’t hurt.

Thats a very good question. The current powerplant is from which i understand not very known for its reliability and low emission levels, and replacement of this is maybe the most important item of the overhaul, but nowhere is the shipyard telling about what kind of systems will be used, will diesel-engines be used or gasturbines?

 

[John Fedup]

For larger naval vessels the options have been fossil fuel steam generation or nuclear. I believe there are limited options for GT due to power output, big diesels may be an option. Can’t believe nuclear is viable for such an old vessel (maybe tweaking the existing power plant makes the most economical sense). The ship will not be venturing on long far away deployments.