There is already a lot of investment by Koreans in Russia, mainly in the Russian Far East, DSME is building a yard, the first vessels to be built here have already been announced. There is also a plan to merge the three St Petersburg yards into one superyard, outside the city, this makes sence considering the land where the existing yards are is prime real estate and would be far more valuable for use as shops offices and expensive residential developments.
Russian Navy Discussions and Updates
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Sandhi Yudha
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Russia to begin building first Project 11356 frigate for Black Sea Fleet on Saturday
RIA Novosti
01:50 18/12/2010
MOSCOW, December 18 (RIA Novosti) - The construction of the first Project 11356 frigate for Russia's Black Sea Fleet will begin at the Yantar Shipyard in the Baltic exclave of Kaliningrad on Saturday, a spokesman for the Russian Navy said.
Yantar won a tender to build three Project 11356 frigates in October. The Black Sea Fleet chief earlier told RIA Novosti the construction would begin in January 2011.
The ship will be named Admiral Grigorovich after Russia's Naval Minister Ivan Grigorovich, who was in office in 1911-1917, the spokesman said.
The frigate, with a displacement of 4,000 tons, will be equipped with a 100-mm gun, a Shtil surface-to-air missile system, two Kashtan air-defense gun/missile systems, two twin 533-mm torpedo launchers, and an anti-submarine warfare helicopter.
The Russian Navy chief, Adm. Vladimir Vysotsky, earlier said one or two Project 11356 frigates will join the Black Sea Fleet every year starting 2013.
Yantar is currently building three Project 11356 frigates for the Indian Navy under a $1.6-billion contract signed in 2007. The first warship, which was floated out last November, will be handed over to India in mid-2011. The two others will be delivered by the end of 2012.
Russia has previously built three Talwar-class frigates for India – INS Talwar (Sword), INS Trishul (Trident), and the INS Tabar (Axe).
RIA Novosti
01:50 18/12/2010
MOSCOW, December 18 (RIA Novosti) - The construction of the first Project 11356 frigate for Russia's Black Sea Fleet will begin at the Yantar Shipyard in the Baltic exclave of Kaliningrad on Saturday, a spokesman for the Russian Navy said.
Yantar won a tender to build three Project 11356 frigates in October. The Black Sea Fleet chief earlier told RIA Novosti the construction would begin in January 2011.
The ship will be named Admiral Grigorovich after Russia's Naval Minister Ivan Grigorovich, who was in office in 1911-1917, the spokesman said.
The frigate, with a displacement of 4,000 tons, will be equipped with a 100-mm gun, a Shtil surface-to-air missile system, two Kashtan air-defense gun/missile systems, two twin 533-mm torpedo launchers, and an anti-submarine warfare helicopter.
The Russian Navy chief, Adm. Vladimir Vysotsky, earlier said one or two Project 11356 frigates will join the Black Sea Fleet every year starting 2013.
Yantar is currently building three Project 11356 frigates for the Indian Navy under a $1.6-billion contract signed in 2007. The first warship, which was floated out last November, will be handed over to India in mid-2011. The two others will be delivered by the end of 2012.
Russia has previously built three Talwar-class frigates for India – INS Talwar (Sword), INS Trishul (Trident), and the INS Tabar (Axe).
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Looks like a civilian use of the Typhoon class submarines is out of the question.
Two alternatives then remains, rebuild and modification to return to the Russian navy in some sort of role. Or be scrapped.
I do find the later option somewhat unrealistic when the option to sell the units for civilian purpose and earn money on them exists. But then again the option to get them back in to shape for active duty seems far of as well.
Time will tell.
Russian subs won't be refitted for oil and ore transportation – Rubin design bureau
Two alternatives then remains, rebuild and modification to return to the Russian navy in some sort of role. Or be scrapped.
I do find the later option somewhat unrealistic when the option to sell the units for civilian purpose and earn money on them exists. But then again the option to get them back in to shape for active duty seems far of as well.
Time will tell.
Russian subs won't be refitted for oil and ore transportation – Rubin design bureau
What was too unpractical?
I would think so. That's what was implied, at least.
EDIT: http://newsru.com/finance/24dec2010/mistral.html
2 ships to be built in France at STX shipyards, 2 assembled in St Peters at Admiralty Shipyards.
EDIT: http://newsru.com/finance/24dec2010/mistral.html
2 ships to be built in France at STX shipyards, 2 assembled in St Peters at Admiralty Shipyards.
Putin inspecting the second Borei class submarine.
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owais.usmani
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^^^oh dear!! they are going to defend Russia with that? 
a sub which opens up its hatches with a bang so loud that can be heard across the whole ocean!
........or am I missing something here?? :help
a sub which opens up its hatches with a bang so loud that can be heard across the whole ocean!........or am I missing something here?? :help
It's a nuclear missile sub. Once the missiles fire it hardly matters.^^^oh dear!! they are going to defend Russia with that?
........or am I missing something here?? :help
owais.usmani
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It carries 16 missiles not just one, so as soon as the first hatch opens all the hunter-killers out there are aware of its position, and can sink it with the remaining 15 hatches still locked.
And besides how can you say that it hardly matters? There are close to a hundred sailors on this sub, you mean the russians are planing to send their sailors on a suicide mission??
Strategic nuclear weapons. It's not like it's going to fire off one missile, and then stop. It's also not like there will be a Russia left after a strategic nuclear exchange.It carries 16 missiles not just one, so as soon as the first hatch opens all the hunter-killers out there are aware of its position, and can sink it with the remaining 15 hatches still locked.
And besides how can you say that it hardly matters? There are close to a hundred sailors on this sub, you mean the russians are planing to send their sailors on a suicide mission??
Only if they're already in position to fire. There's a lot of sea out there, & unless an SSN has been tracking the SSBN, in which case it's moot, there's little chance of there being one within range.
BTW, have you thought about the noise the missile launch makes?
owais.usmani
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well, in case of a nuclear exchange with USA, yes I agree with you. But remember that not many countries out there would be able to return a nuclear strike, although they would be able to destroy a noisy SSBN with their SSN, diesel electrics or even an ASW ship, which many countries possess.
hmm I don't know buddy, but I still got pretty confused seeing one of the latest SSBNs out there making a bang like that. Although I haven't seen it, I'm pretty sure the much older ohio classes wouldn't be banging like that!
They do try to make a SSBN quiet and stealthy in every aspect, don't they? so why left the hatches out?
Because when you open the hatches you're only a few seconds away from launching missiles, & there's no way you can do that quietly. The noise of the hatches opening is probably insignificant when compared to the noise of a missile launch. So why bother quietening it?
It's like worrying about the noise made by the hammer coming down on a shotgun, without worrying about the loud bang a moment later.
owais.usmani
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hmm well you do have a valid point, but still......................
anyways thanks a lot!
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