Lightest Combat Aircraft

Aegis

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adsH said:
i don't think its worth building a new engine when Russians are designing the dam engine them selves. its like wasting money on something the Russians would of done anyway!! why can't IAF just use the engines available on the Market!
It is for the sake of country pride plus India record of reverse engineering is not v good!
 

redsoulja

New Member
Re: LCA Engine test fails in Moscow

it is not good for a country to be always dependent on others for engines and significant parts of or teh whole miltiary product.
india wishes to be a great powers, one of the major criteriais the ability to design, make and use its own engines, and dependency on others is a weakness
 

tatra

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Verified Defense Pro
Re: LCA Engine test fails in Moscow

Same reason why UK stuck with EF2000 at $ 20 bln program cost instead of buying F18E from US at $ 3 bln
 

redsoulja

New Member
Re: LCA Engine test fails in Moscow

the part about the dependency, i can give an example hat is partly off topic,
when u always import an engine it's like the chinese economy, it si heavily dependent on the american consumers, once the yanks boycott chinese products china's economy goes down the drain
 

dabrownguy

New Member
The high altitude testing is done in Russia on the Tu-16 aircraft. I doubt the Russians are designing and building the engine that has close relations to the American GE404.
 

neel24neo

New Member
adsH said:
i don't think its worth building a new engine when Russians are designing the dam engine them selves. its like wasting money on something the Russians would of done anyway!! why can't IAF just use the engines available on the Market!
the kaveri is more like a GE-404 than any russian engine.thats the reason why GE -404 is used in the prototypes.and most probably the first squadrons of LCA will almost surely will fly with uprated GE-404.and the major reason why LCA got delayed was because of US sanctions which cut off the GE-404 supply for the prototypes.
the reason why other engines cannot be used is because an aircraft is usually built around an engine.
 

redsoulja

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Re: LCA Engine test fails in Moscow

i was justr wondering if u guys really think that the LCA will actually endup in production
personally i think after all these delays etc. it will be scrapped and a new program will be implemented that uses the tech researched in LCA and more newer tech

i also heard the IA and IAF is looking for engineers ????
india has the second or first highest number of engineers??? that makes no sense
 

dabrownguy

New Member
Engineers that are experienced. If you don't know what your doing your a dumbass. I really think that it can't be scraped. For what? a Mirage? the Mirage is too large and expensive. The LCA is perfect replacement for the Migs. LCA could also hold its own agaist lets say a 5 generation in its own terriotory. They only way it would be scraped is if the IAF dicides to use Gripen or F-16 as interceptors and I doubt that would happen. New F-16 and Gripens would require a new arsenal of missiles.
 

neel24neo

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Re: LCA Engine test fails in Moscow

redsoulja said:
i was justr wondering if u guys really think that the LCA will actually endup in production
personally i think after all these delays etc. it will be scrapped and a new program will be implemented that uses the tech researched in LCA and more newer tech

i also heard the IA and IAF is looking for engineers ????
india has the second or first highest number of engineers??? that makes no sense
LCA as a project is past the point of no return.
now why should you be surprised if IA and IAF are looking for engineers?they require "techies"in large numbers.the recruitment drives are to lure engineers from private sector jobs which pay a lot more...anycase you will have to get through the services selection board interview to make it into officer ranks.its pretty tough competition,i can tell you.
 

redsoulja

New Member
Re: LCA Engine test fails in Moscow

i thought they had a shortage
i hear india has the second or first highest number of enginees in world
so theyre having a problem picking 200 out of 10,100? or soemthing like that

and why dotn they try to synergise their IT capability and defence ability
that way they can eb good at information warfare????
 

neel24neo

New Member
Re: LCA Engine test fails in Moscow

redsoulja said:
i thought they had a shortage
so theyre having a problem picking 200 out of 10,100? or soemthing llike that
you should be at the services selection board interview buddy.out of every batch of hundred,30 get through initial screening,out of that 4 get through the actual interview,and even that is no guarentee for your selection as there are two more hurdles,medical examination and merit list...its pretty tough competition...i dont think they have any problem in getting people to opt for services,as you said engineers are dime a dozen in india.the real problem is taking in quality professionals ,as the best of them opt for private sector jobs which pay you lot more.all three services have come up with short service commisions to address this problem.air force and navy doesnt have a problem as such.people mint money after retiring from service,joining merchant navy or commercial airlines.
 

ashoaib

New Member
Re: LCA Engine test fails in Moscow

LCA project is a base for future developments and research thats why I dont think so that India will stop this project and they should continue this project to lesser the dependance on others. Even if a failure, this will provide solid ground for future research and India can come up with more advance design. So its not a wastage of money. Like the project of F-22 provides a ground for JSF.
 

redsoulja

New Member
Re: LCA Engine test fails in Moscow

and why dotn they try to synergise their IT capability and defence ability
that way they can eb good at information warfare????
 

adsH

New Member
Commercial and military warfare are two differnt things, granted they have some similar applications, like accounting, database storage, and other Supply related tasks and other military businesses. but when it comes down to designing Warfare systems they are custom jobs, you need to have experience conducting operations ie command experience and then you need Extreme IT Skills like project management, to handle development of these IT systems.
 

redsoulja

New Member
Re: LCA Engine test fails in Moscow

there does exist the capability to synergize the commercial and military industries

Information warfare is becoming more important in a war
india has the advantage???
 

lalith prasad

Banned Member
Re: LCA Engine test fails in Moscow

india already has developed an electronic and information warfare system with breakproof cipher codes (developed by one of the iit's).this system for army is known as samyukta and also includes full c3i capabilities,other versions are tempest for airforce and sangraha for navy dont know the status of airforce and naval variants .the hardware i beleive has been acquired from southafrica,israel,and france and integrated together with indian software.i will try to post more infor mation with links and open a new thread on this
 
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