Sandhi Yudha
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Many Indonesian netizens believe the crap of the online fanboys, so what do you expect from low educated morons if they are confronted with so called 'objective experts and professional journalists' like our Oracle on Twitter?
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@Sandhi Yudha this's the example why I'm very cynical to those so call Local Defense Insiders/Consultant in Indonesia, and Twitter guy is the big example of that.
The media call them Independent defense consultant but the way some of them talking in media is clearly try to twist public opinion on the procurement direction they want to build.
Twitter guy clearly playing bit dirty. Calling DSME 1400 as unlicensed copy, and try to build public opinion on DSME capabilities. Look clearly DSME have less track record then Euro players like TKMS or NG, but their submarine so far working fine with ROKN. So why this name calling on DSME product ?
By his logic PAL LPD to Pinoy (Tarlac) should be also call unlicensed copy from Daesun LPD design. Come on due he dare saying that in Indonesian media ? If DSME 1400 have problem to be adjusted, well it's practically new design. Eventough it's based on Chanbogo that ROKN use, but it's modified under TNI-AL preferred specs.
PAL has no problem continue their second batch with DSME, but this administration that decided to hold it. If we see the PAL project with Damen and DSME that originated from previous administration, both project not being pursue to next batch by present administration. Could it be due to technical (as he try to potrait) or more on Political choices. I dare him to open it in Indonesian media (doubt he will do it cause will jeopardize his Projects).
He's talking pure BS on saying Indonesian industry working mostly on off set Projects. What Pindad and PAL doing at this moment is clearly part of licensing. It's just their learning curve being cut short.
In his video he's talking about TKMS reluctant to offer 214 cause has similarities with Singapore 218SG. Again pure BS. TKMS already see how PAL learning journey on 209 is cut short. Can it occurred to him TKMS offering next batch with PAL also on 209 to complete PAL learning curve?
DSME also only move to next level of licensing with 214 (KSS2) after they build 9 209/Chanbogo class or KSS1. I do believe TKMS knows that, that's why they insist with 209, cause Indonesia want to build it locally within PAL infrastructure. While PAL learning curve with 209 are not complete yet.
If it's build by TKMS completely, then it's different story. Now he talk BS on TKMS because his pure 'defense' analyst thinking or because he wants to twist public opinion from NG competitor ?
Look it's ok for Sales Agent to 'smooth' their brand image. However then talk directly in public that whose actually they're represent, and not hiding behind image as 'independent' defense consultant.
Now he talk on Investment that Government already build within PAL Submarine Infrastructure. Now can he be honest to tell public how much the adjustment on infrastructure (that build for 209) need to be done to work with NG Scorpene design (which being rumours will be similar then Brazilian ones)? Could it be TKMS insistence on continue building 209 with PAL asside to complete PAL learning curve, but also to adjust with PAL existing infrastructure ?
I'm no defense industry professional or insiders. However I already see many Industry as a Bankers. When you build different type of product, there will be adjustment on your infrastructure. It can be big, or it can be minimal. It's simply because there will adjustment due different specs.
PAL not open to public on detail infrastructure of their Submarine yards. However considering it's build for 209, then if they're going to work with NG, off course it's different specs of Submarine. It will be additional adjustment costs on their current infrastructure.
While if TKMS offering licensing 209, the adjustment will be minimal, as the specs not changing much. Will sales agent like Twitter Guy admit that in public ?
For those who read many defense discussion and read many related items, or understand how manufacturing process work, then they know what he talk is pure BS. However most public will not know that. They will just read and hear it because media call him 'defense' analyst that should be independent.
He fully exploit his "former Janes representativeship", media exposure and the ability to look so smart and wise with his overuse of abbreviations and fake clearvoyance.
Recently i read a comment somewhere on Twitter about the "unlicenced copy of U209" posted by such a smartass who believe holy in our friend. So Helman's tactic has effects on such kind of people. Alvas' statements are often incorrectly and also contradicting, but his fans not only lack knowledge and common sense but also lack the capability to remember his incorrect predictions and mistakes.
What can you expect from people who regard Globalfirepower as the ultimate source of defence knowledge and the most reliable database?
But yes, it is sad that such 'experts/journalists' get the chance to get a place in media like CNBC Indonesia, because that will confirm that those fanboyish netizens are right and it will strengthen their Dunning-Kruger syndrome.
Just an update from PAL.
Kapal Bantu Rumah Sakit (BRS) dr. Wahidin Sudirohusodo has successfully passed the Sea Acceptance Test (SAT).
According to the contract it should have a maximum speed of 18 kts, but during the SAT its maximum speed exceeds 19 kts. Most if not all medical equipment is already installed, so we can expect that this 124 m long ship can be commissioned begin next year.
As we can see on the photo, this ship is built from the start as hospital ship, without provision for a Bofors 40 mm or Oto Melara 76 mm gun.
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