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aaaditya

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well failure or not , initial preparations have already started for a second test fire.

here check out this link:

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/articleshow/1725376.cms

NEW DELHI: Brushing aside the unsuccessful test-firing of the 3,500-km Agni-III, defence scientists say initial preparations for testing the two-stage solid-fuelled ballistic missile again have already begun.

But the second test of the missile, which is important for India's credible nuclear deterrence against China, will be undertaken only after the reasons behind the first test's failure are "fully analysed and pinpointed".

"An exhaustive analysis of the missile test launch's telemetry data is being conducted to pinpoint whether the flaw was in design, manufacture or assembly of the missile," said an official.

Defence minister Pranab Mukherjee is likely to be presented an initial report on the episode on Wednesday or Thursday, he added.

After an initial powered flight, a ballistic missile enters a free-flight zone, which is finally followed by the re-entry phase, where the missile re-enters the earth's atmosphere from the stratosphere on way to the target.

The test of Agni-III on Sunday, except for the initial launch, failed on each of these counts, with the missile plunging into the Bay of Bengal without reaching anywhere near the intended target.

Agni-III did not achieve the intended high-arching trajectory it should have as per design projections. It did go up vertically for 12 km but then, rapidly lost height
 

aaaditya

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pshamim said:
Thanks Kams for your input. Please do find out more details and share. This is no ordinary jolt and disappointment and will affect overall programs in work.
according to some indian media sources,the problem was in the propellant used for this missile,there was a design failure with respect to the propellent.

this missile tested a number of new technologies as compared to the agni2 missile,one of which is a new solid fuel motor having a 100 second specific burn time.

being a heavier missile the agni3 neaded a propellent of a newer composistion as compared to the agni2,but the propellent used on the agni2 was used for the agni3.
 

pshamim

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aaaditya said:
according to some indian media sources,the problem was in the propellant used for this missile,there was a design failure with respect to the propellent.

this missile tested a number of new technologies as compared to the agni2 missile,one of which is a new solid fuel motor having a 100 second specific burn time.

being a heavier missile the agni3 neaded a propellent of a newer composistion as compared to the agni2,but the propellent used on the agni2 was used for the agni3.
Aaaditya, thanks for the info. Any idea when the next test may take place? Also, if they used the propellent used by Agni-2 in the Agni-3, what is the probability that they already know which propellent to use in the next test. Many reports point to a problem with the separation stage too.
 

aaaditya

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pshamim said:
Aaaditya, thanks for the info. Any idea when the next test may take place? Also, if they used the propellent used by Agni-2 in the Agni-3, what is the probability that they already know which propellent to use in the next test. Many reports point to a problem with the separation stage too.
propellent can be changed,however the next test will i bet take a couple of months ,as currently the failure of the agni3 is being analysed,a series of three tests are planned.
 

pshamim

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Looks like this respected Indian writer does not seem to be too confident. May be he is a communist bad mouthing DRDO and others engaged in many Indian development projects. Some members have been on record calling them Communists when Indian journalists have criticized the DRDO and others for failing in various endeavours.

I also hear some Indians call these failures took place because of sabotage?

South Asia
Jul 12, 2006

India exposed by missile failure
By Praful Bidwai

NEW DELHI - The failure in rapid succession this week of a satellite launcher and a new ballistic missile have shown up the technological and budgetary difficulties faced by India's space establishment - civilian and military.

Hours after the US$50 million geosynchronous satellite launch vehicle (GSLV) with a communications satellite on board was ordered to self-destruct - as it veered off course soon after liftoff on Monday - authorities at the civilian Indian Space Research Organization (ISRO) said one of its four strap-on rocket motors had failed.

Like the GSLV, a new intermediate-range ballistic missile "Agni III" that was launched by the secretive Defense Research Development Organization (DRDO) failed soon after liftoff on


Sunday and crashed into the Bay of Bengal, less than 1,000 kilometers away from the launch site.

The failure of the Agni III was in some ways more serious because it exposed the political limitations of India's attempts, despite its ambitions, to pursue a military capability which is truly independent of the US's strategic calculations.

The surface-to-surface ballistic missile, designed to have a range of 3,500 kilometers, took off in a "fairly smooth" manner at the designated hour. But "a series of mishaps" occurred in its later flight path.

The Agni-III was originally meant to be tested in 2003-04. However, the test was postponed owing to technological snags. After their rectification, said reports, the missile's test flights were put off twice largely for "political reasons", so as not to annoy the US.

Earlier this year, India decided to postpone the missile test out of fear that a test could hamper US Congressional ratification of the India-US nuclear cooperation deal. Publicly, the Indian defense minister cited "self-imposed restraint" to justify the postponement.
However, last month, General Peter Pace, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff of the US military, visited India and declared that "I do not see it [a test] as destabilizing" or upsetting the regional "military balance" since "other countries in this region" (read, Pakistan) have also tested missiles.

Following this "facilitation" or clearance, and after indications of favorable votes in US Congressional committees on the nuclear deal, India's stand changed. A week later, the DRDO announced it was ready to launch Agni-III.

This is the ninth missile in the Agni series (named after the Sanskrit word for "fire") to have been tested. The first was tested in May 1989. The last test (Agni-II) took place in August 2004.

Unlike major powers like the US, Russia or China, which test the same missile 10 to 20 times before announcing that it is fully developed, India considers only three or four test flights to be enough for both producing and inducting new missiles.

This is not the first time that the test of an Agni series missile has failed. In the past, some tests of the shorter range Agni-II (range 2,000 kilometers-plus) also proved unsuccessful.

But what makes the Agni-III's failure significant is that unlike its shorter-range predecessors, it was a wholly new design, developed with the specific purpose of delivering a nuclear warhead.

The Agni-I (range 700 to 800 kilometers) and Agni-II were both products of India's space program and connected to its Integrated Guided Missile Development Program (IGMDP), itself launched in 1983. Originally, their design used a satellite space-launching rocket (SLV-3) as the first stage, on top of which was mounted the very short-range (150 to 250 kilometers) liquid fuel-propelled Prithvi missile.

The Agni-III's brand new design, in which both stages use solid propellants, was to enable it to carry a payload weighing up to 1.5 tons and deliver it to targets as far away as Beijing and Shanghai. At present, India lacks an effective nuclear deterrent vis-a-vis China, based on a delivery vehicle carrying a nuclear warhead. Agni-III was meant to fill the void.

The causes of the failure of the test flight are not clear. Scientists at the DRDO, which designed and built the missile, have been quoted as saying that many new technologies were tried in the Agni-III, including rocket motors, "fault-tolerant" avionics and launch control and guidance systems. Some of these could have failed. Other reports attribute the mishap to problems with the propellant.

"The DRDO isn't the world's most reliable weapons R&D agency," Admiral L Ramdas, a former chief of staff of the Indian Navy, told Inter Press Service. "The Indian armed services' experience with DRDO-made armaments has not been a happy one. Their reliability is often extremely poor. We often used to joke that one had to pray they would somehow work in the battlefield."


The agency has a budget of Rs30 billion (US$670 million), which is of the same order as the annual expenditure of the Department of Atomic Energy which is responsible for India's civilian and military nuclear programs.

"This figure is extremely high for a poor country like India, with a low rank of 127 among 175 countries of the world in the United Nations Human Development Index," said Anil Chowdhary of the Coalition for Nuclear Disarmament and Peace. "Yet the DRDO has delivered very little."

None of the three major projects assigned to the DRDO has been completed on time or without huge cost-overruns. These include the development of a Main Battle Tank (MBT), a nuclear power plant for a submarine, and an advanced Light Combat Aircraft (LCA), all involving expenditures of hundreds of millions of dollars.

The MBT project was launched in 1974. But the tank has failed to meet service requirement tests. It is reportedly too heavy and undependable to be used in combat operations. The Indian Army prefers imported Russian tanks over the indigenous MBTs and says it will use the MBTs for training, not operations.

The nuclear submarine project, launched 31 years ago, is not yet finished despite the almost $1 billion spent on it. The LCA project, launched in 1983, is still in the doldrums: the DRDO has failed to develop the right engine for it. Even with an imported engine, the plane is unlikely to enter service anytime soon.


"The primary reason for these shocking instances of underperformance and inability is lack of public accountability and oversight of the DRDO," says M V Ramana, an independent technical expert attached to the Center for Interdisciplinary Studies in Environment and Development, Bangalore.

"The DRDO, like all of India's defense and nuclear service establishments, is not subject to normal processes of audit. It has used 'security' as a smokescreen or shield and refused to be held to account," he adds.

The DRDO says it will try to rectify the faults in Agni-III. Whether or not and whenever that happens, India's missile development program, with future plans to develop an intercontinental ballistic missile with a range of 5,000 kilometers or more, has suffered a major setback.

http://www.atimes.com/atimes/South_Asia/HG12Df02.html
 

kams

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Well, i just did a scan of all news reports of Agni and GSLV failures...various theories have been proposed ..stage separation, Rocket fuel, new design etc etc..one even speculated that Americans shot it down!!!! thats journalism for you. Its best we wait for the investigation to be completed .
DRDO has been the target of many journalists for some time now (may be for the right reasons). At this point I will say this..since Dr.Atre became the Chief, things are changing for the better...many flamboyant projects have been dropped.

ISRO on the other hand has been a very professional unit from the begining.

Right now I am more worried about series of bomb blasts in Mumbai...180 have died..this may escalate tension very rapidly if any Kashmiri terrorist organization claims credit. Keeping fingers crossed..any thing may happen
 

aaaditya

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well it seems that the failure lies in the second stage motor and the tracking control system.

here check out this link:

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/articleshow/1733336.cms

NEW DELHI: The failure of the "tracking control system" of the 3,500-km Agni-III, coupled with inability of the ballistic missile's second-stage to separate from the first, led to its unsuccessful maiden launch on Sunday.

Admitting this on Tuesday, defence ministry officials said the initial report on the exact reasons behind the "partially unsuccessful" test-firing of Agni-III will be presented to defence minister Pranab Mukherjee on Wednesday.

DRDO, incidentally, is also scheduled to make a presentation on the country's missile programme to the parliamentary consultative committee on Wednesday.

As reported earlier by The Times of India, despite being launched in 1983, the country's integrated guided missile development programme has been repeatedly hit by time-overruns, cost escalations and technical snags.

The relatively-primitive Prithvi ballistic missile, with a strike range of 150 to 300 km, is the only missile to be fully inducted into the armed forces. Agni-I (700 to 800 km), meant primarily for Pakistan, and Agni-II (2,000-km-plus) missiles are still to become fully operational.

DRDO will, of course, have to work swiftly to rectify the technical snags in Agni-III as soon as possible since it remains crucial for India's nuclear deterrence plans against China.

The missile is intended to give India the capability to hit high-value targets deep inside China, including Beijing and Shanghai.
 

aaaditya

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hey guys seems that the indian army has activated the first battalion of the brahmos cruise missiles.

here check out this link:

http://www.strategypage.com/htmw/htart/articles/20060711.aspx

India's First Cruise Missile Battalion

July 11, 2006: The Indian army has activated it's first BrahMos cruise missile battalion. The PJ-10 BrahMos missiles are carried, three to a truck, on a vehicle which also acts as a launcher. The 3.2 ton missile has a range of 300 kilometers and has a 660 pound warhead. Perhaps the most striking characteristic of the BrahMos is its high speed, literally faster (at up to 3,000 feet per second) than a rifle bullet. India and Russia developed the weapon together, and also offer the BrahMos for export. The high price of each missile, about $2.3 million, restricts the number of countries that can afford it. India's BrahMos battalion has four launcher vehicles, plus support vehicles and sixty missiles. Do the math (that's over $150 million for one battalion.) Five older destroyers have been retrofitted with at least four BrahMos each, and new ships will have the missile as well. The weapon was a joint development project that entered service with the Indian navy in 2005. Different versions of the PJ-10 can be fired from the air, from ships or submarines. The maximum speed of 3,000 kilometers an hour makes it harder to intercept, and means it takes five minutes or less to reach its target. The air launched version weighs 2.5 tons, the others, three tons or more. The 29 foot long, 670mm diameter missile is an upgraded version of the Russian SS-NX-26 (Yakhont) missile, which was in development when the Cold War ended in 1991. Lacking money to finish development and begin production, the Russian manufacturer made a deal with India to finish the job. India put up most of the $240 million needed to finally complete two decades of development. The PJ-10 is being built in Russia, with India as the initial customer. China and Iran have also expressed interest in the weapon. The SS-NX-26 (Yakhont)/BrahMos) was originally developed as an aircraft carrier killer. That's why it has the high speed and elaborate guidance system. And that's why it's so expensive. A similar American weapon, the ATACMS rocket, also has a range of 300 kilometers, uses GPS guidance, and has a 500 pound warhead. ATACMS costs a million dollars each, but is not as fast and lacks an elaborate terminal guidance system. The land version of BrahMos would be an effective coast defense weapon. For example, if the Iranians got several dozen land launched BrahMos missiles, they could pose a real threat to any ships using the Straits of Hormuz. In other words, the BrahMos missile could close those straits, through which most of the worlds oil supplies pass. Russia would benefit from that, because the price of their oil exports would climb. India would not like it, as they import oil from the Persian Gulf. India and Russia are both supposed to have a veto over who can buy BrahMos. So while Russia might like to sell Iran BrahMos, India would probably object. At the moment, the most likely targets for BrahMos are Pakistani. Against ships, you can justify a $2.3 million missile, but there are few land targets, within range of the BrahMos, that are worth the cost. Moreover, India has cheaper ballistic missiles for that sort of thing, as well as bomb and missile carrying jets. BrahMos was designed to hit a moving target, and do so at high speed, to make defensive measures less effective. To that end, India is developing the air launched version, which will be carried by its Su-30 fighters. There might also eventually be a cheaper land based version, using a less expensive guidance system (like GPS) for stationary land targets. India and Russia plan to manufacture about a thousand BrahMos over the next ten years, including those needed for export.
 

aaaditya

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hey guys ,the governement of india todays gave drdo the clearance to launch two more agni-3 missiles(2 stage missille's like the one which crashed).

drdo is also ready with a 3 stage variant of the agni-3 missile.

here check out this link:

http://www.dailypioneer.com/indexn12.asp?main_variable=NATION&file_name=nt5%2Etxt&counter_img=5

The Government has given the go-ahead to the Defence Research and Development Organisation (DRDO) scientists to conduct at least two tests of the Agni-III intermediate range ballistic missile in late August.

The nod for the two tests, likely to be conducted in quick succession at a gap of two or three days, came on Wednesday when the DRDO brass met Defence Minister Pranab Mukherjee.

The Minister was also apprised of the plausible cause of the snag which afflicted the maiden test firing of the missile on Sunday last, sources said here on Thursday.

The scientists said they were ready for further tests of the missile capable of hitting a target at a distance of 3,500 kms and with the capacity to carry conventional and nuclear warheads up to one tonne. Mukherjee asked the scientists to go ahead and said the matter will also be taken up in the Cabinet Committee on Security (CCS) meet, sources said.

They also said the scientists met the Minister and got the permission for the tests before the start of the Parliamentary Consultative Committee on Defence which saw the MPs seeking answers from the government about the missile's failure.

The DRDO also briefed the Minister about the plausible cause of the snag and assured him that they would be able to rectify the snags for the forthcoming launches. The tests would be two-stage even as the DRDO was ready with a three-stage missile test, sources said.

The cause of the snag as reported to the Minister was that the Sunday test was carried for the two-stage missile with a booster but without changing the composition of the propellant.

It means that the propellant used for this test was similar to that used for Agni-II which has a range of hitting a target at 2,000 kms.

However, if the objective is to hit a target beyond 2,000 kms, the chemical specifications of the solid fuel propellant have to be changed to give additional thrust to the missile, they said.

Explaining further, they said the Agni-III, most probably, developed a snag as the booster of the missile, used to ignite the missile was not compatible with the second stage of hitting the target. This phenomenon occurred due to design failure as the diameter of the missile was increased to store more propellant without changing its composition technically known as specific impulse composition, sources said.

Meanwhile, Mukherjee on Thursday instructed top officials of his Ministry, DRDO and defence PSUs to adopt a collegiate and synergised approach for solving cross-cutting issues and for developing new products.

Making these observations while reviewing the performance of public sector giants including the Hindustan Aeronautics Limited (HAL) and Garden Reach Shipbuilders and Engineers Limited(GRSE) here, Mukherjee also asked the chiefs of the PSUs to put in place appropriate mechanism to absorb the inflow of technology and funds which would accrue as a sequel to the new offset policy.
 

aaaditya

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hey guys is there a surface to air variant of the amraam missile,seems that raytheon is currrently in talks with indian companies for joint development of various systems,these include amraam missiles,ew for the mrca,gagan satellite based navigation satellite network,artillery locating radar etc.

here check out this link:

http://www.hindu.com/thehindu/holnus/001200607171432.htm

US Defence firm in talks with Indian companies for tie-ups

London, July 17 (PTI): With improving Indo-US defence co-operation, US arms company, Raytheon, says it is now actively holding talks with Indian public and private sector companies to develop state-of-the-art electronics surveillance systems and possible missile defence on a partnership basis.
"We are talking to many Indian companies, including the PSUs, on possible partnerships to develop defence-related equipment in India," Torkel Patterson, president of Raytheon International, told journalists prior to the Farnborough International Air Show starting today outside London.
The company has an annual sale of US$ 22 billion and produces more than 7,000 defence-related equipment. Each of its seven divisions is now looking for partnerships with Indian companies.
The company has already sent two survey teams to India and the teams have held discussions with TATA group, Defence Research and Development Organization (DRDO) and Indian Space Research Organization (ISRO) and the Larson & Toubro.
Among the focussed areas, he said, Raytheon could offer its expertise in satellite communications, tactical and civil communications and surface launched AMRAAM missiles.
Though Raytheon has been maintaining its presence in India for more than six decades, the company hit the headlines a few years ago when India bought eight Firefinder counter-battery artillery radars.
The estimated deal of about US$ 146 million was one of the first arms deal with the US in more than four decades.
Soon after, the ISRO awarded a contract to Raytheon to supply ground-based systems of a technology demonstrator for GPS-aided Geo Augmented Navigation (GAGAN) to improve air traffic and other civil navigation.
With the US government encouraging increased defence cooperation with India, Raytheon wants to enter the Indian market in a big way.
"Time has come to work with the Indian companies for the benefit of both countries," Patterson said adding, once the Indo-US nuclear deal sails through, it would herald a new era in bilateral relations, especially in defence.
Patterson said that Raytheon would also be keen to share its expertise in Homeland Security systems. At a time when public transport and strategic locations like airports, ports, and metros are becoming vulnerable to terror attacks, Raytheon says it is well-placed to share its sophisticated security systems and mechanisms to protect these key locations. US companies are also keen to sell F-16 and F-18 fighter jets to India once the Indian government decides on calling for proposals for Medium-range Combat Aircraft for its Air Force, Raytheon official said it would open further avenues for co-operation as Raytheon would possibly play a vital role in providing avionics and navigation systems.
 

kams

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ISRO And DRDO Deal Differently With Disastrous Launches

This article deals with some of the problems in DRDO and how different ISRO is. While I do not agree on some of authors comments (such as publicly discussing reasons for failure) he is mostly accurate on the work culture in DRDO . However I should mention here that current leadership of DRDO is trying to undo the harm done to the organization by some previous 'leaders'. Many projects are being ditched and they are concentrating on only those, which are meangfull (both comercially and strategically).

ISRO vs DRDO
 
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aaaditya

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hey guys seems that india and russia have plans for upto 1000 brahmos cruise missiles over the next 10 years at the current production rates of 100 per year.

here check out this link:

http://www.outlookindia.com/pti_news.asp?gid=73


India and Russia intend to make 1,000 BrahMos supersonic cruise missiles over the next 10 years through their joint venture company, with nearly 50 per cent of them expected to be sold in third countries, defence sources said today.
"We already have a capacity to produce 100 missiles a year. One thousand missiles in 10 years is a reasonable target. Nearly 50 per cent will go to exports," a source told PTI.
India and Russia have so far invested 300 million dollars in BrahMos Aerospace, which was established to design, develop, produce and market the missile by using the technological skills and capabilities of both countries.
Prime Minister Manmohan Singh announced last month that BrahMos (named after the Brahmaputra and Moskva rivers) has been inducted into the Indian Navy.
Speaking to PTI here, BrahMos Aerospace CEO A Sivathanu Pillai said the missile's land-based version is expected to be inducted into the Army next year.
Pillai, also chief controller of research and development in the Defence Research and Development Organisation (DRDO), said the company is undertaking a project to instal BrahMos missiles on the Sukhoi-30MKI combat jets of the Indian Air Force.
"Now, we are fitting one BrahMos in the belly (of the Su-30) to start with. With certain reinforcement of the wings, we can fit up to three," he said.

Pillai said the joint venture company, established in India in 1998, is now looking at an upgraded version of BrahMos but added that no final decision has been taken. He, however, hinted that one area of focus could be increasing the speed of the missile. "It can be speed," he said.
Noting that BrahMos is the world's only supersonic cruise missile -- others are subsonic -- and that there is no competition for it, he stressed the need for retaining the competitive edge.
"Having reached this stage, it's necessary that we keep that edge. We are definitely working on that (upgraded version of BrahMos)." The 2.5-tonne BrahMos has a strike range of 290 km and has a maximum speed of Mach 2.8 (one km per second).
Pillai said BrahMos would be sold in third countries "very soon" but did not name the nations or give any timeframe.
He said the price of BrahMos depends on several variables like "country-to-country (relations), political situation and credit line". "There is no competition for BrahMos. Our prices are competitive. We are not greedy about making money out of it. We are not greedy people," he commented.
 
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aaaditya

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hey guys finally the first of the brahmos has been delivered to the indian navy,here check out this link,it also contains infromation on the stealth research carried out by the nstl(national science and technology laboratories),the first of which will see fruitition on the indigenous p17 shivalik frigate.

here check out this link:

http://www.hindu.com/2006/07/28/stories/2006072820651800.htm


VISAKHAPATNAM: Supersonic cruise missile BrahMos was delivered to the Navy here on Thursday.
The event was celebrated at INS Kalinga on Visakhapatnam-Bhimunipatnam beach road. A. Sivathanu Pillai, Chief Executive Officer and Managing Director of BrahMos Aerospace Private Limited; Vice-Admiral Sureesh Mehta, Flag Officer Commanding-in-Chief of Eastern Naval Command; Rear Admiral (retired) S. Mohapatra, in charge of BrahMos missile delivery; and V. Bhujanga Rao, Director, Naval Science and Technological Laboratory (NSTL) were among those present. A top source in BrahMos Aerospace told The Hindu that for the first time, the missile, mostly produced indigenously in Hyderabad, has several unique features.
Joint venture

The BrahMos Aerospace Private Limited is a joint venture with Russia, in which India has a 50.5 per cent equity. The company designs, produces and markets the missiles.
In the past three years, the missile had been successfully test-fired from Interim Test Range at Chandipur-on-sea in south Orissa.
The missile will be integrated with various naval warships and shore-based complexes.

The NSTL's efforts to design advance models of stealth ships received a shot in the arm with the launching of work on instrumentation radar centre atop Dolphin hills overlooking the sea here on Thursday.
The centre, being developed at a cost of Rs.10 crores on a site allotted by the Navy, will be an advanced facility for measuring the radar signature of ships by the NSTL. Ships can evade attacks during hostilities if they are undetectable by enemy radars.
The centre will help the NSTL in studying various stealth design features of ships.
The new facility, expected to be ready by May next year, will help reduce radar signature of ships by using newly-developed stealth material.
Laying the stone for the centre, Dr. Sivathanu Pillai said: "I know, a few years back, the NSTL embarked upon an integrated stealth technology programme. As part of it, it developed a lot of stealth hardware, software and stealth materials." He said some of the stealth materials developed by the NSTL and Mumbai-based Naval Material Research Laboratory (NMRL) were inducted on first of class stealth ship INS Shivalik.
 

aaaditya

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hey guys finally it seems that the nag and akash will be inducted.akash has been tested under various countermeasures and was found to be very good.

here check out this link:

http://www.hindu.com/2006/07/31/stories/2006073101430700.htm


HYDERABAD: Orders from the Air Force and the Army for induction of the indigenously-built, medium-range Akash surface-to- air weapon system and the anti-tank Nag missile are expected in the next few months. The Air Force and the Army are the user agencies for Akash, while Nag is meant for the Army. This was disclosed to The Hindu by the Chief Controller, R&D (Services Interaction), Defence and Research Development Organistion (DRDO), Prahlada here on Friday.
Good performance

He denied that the user agencies were not satisfied with the performance of Akash missile during its field trials. "It performed very well and the users were aware of its potential." Recently it was tested against various kinds of jamming conditions and "it performed very well," Mr. Prahlada asserted.
Discussions were on with the production agencies — the Bharat Electronics Ltd, Bharat Dynamics — and industries regarding the numbers, timing of induction and maintaining the production schedule of Akash. It might take three years to raise a group once the clearance was given and orders placed, he stated.
 

kams

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Brahmos Video

Recently a Major Indian TV ran a program on Brahmos. This included interviews with Dr.Pillay (Head of Brahmos Corp) and other Indian and Russian scientists, Demonstration of
Brahmos in Land attack mode, Ship launch (simulation). You may download the video from this site (posted by a member of Key aviation forum.

Brahmos

Ignore the commentary by Anchor.
 
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aaaditya

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hey guys here is some interesting titbits for you:

1)lahat missile will be produced under licence by bdl.

2)a light weight anti tank missile is to be selected for the alh dhruv(most probably nag) to be built at bdl.

3)bdl is building a missile known as k-15,i have no idea what role this missile will play,if anyone has any information can you please enlighten me about the intended role of the k-15.

here check out this link:

http://164.100.24.208/ls/CommitteeR/Defence/9th%20report%20of%2014th.pdf

4)inda has placed orders for 450 igla-s missiles with kbp-tula ,this will be followed by further orders along with full transfer of technology to manufacture these missiles in india at bdl(there is a requirement for upto 5000 missiles).

5)kbp-tula has also offered india the 9m120 ataka air launched anti tank missile for its upgraded mi-35 helicopters as a replacement of the shturm missiles currently in service.

6)indian army has also expressed an interest in the krizantema all weather anti tank system,kbm has sent a commercial offer.

this missile is considered to be 100% unique and is designed to be fired from the bmp-3 ifv.it has a range of 6 kms and is claimed to penetrate upto 1200mm of era protected armour.the operator can guide two missiles on to the target simultaneously,one by radar guidance and the other by the semi active laser guidance within 40 seconds of the first one.

7)india has also expressed renewed interest in the russian iskander-e short ranged tactical surface to surface ballistic missiles.i believe these missiles shall be used to replace the existing prithivi1 and 2 missiles and to supplement the prithvi3 and lora missiles.

here check out this link form the russian defence exhibition ,it contains some interesting pics.for india related articles check out page 5:

http://www.armstass.su/data/Files/File/77.pdf
 

kams

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Navy, IAF induct Prithvi

Indian Navy and Airforce are inducting Prithvi Ballistic Missiles.
NEW DELHI: There is finally some good news on the missile front after the 3,500-km Agni-III failure on July 9. The IAF and Navy are now operationalising Prithvi surface-to-surface ballistic missiles in their armoury.

Though meant for conventional battlefield use, these missiles are also capable of carrying nuclear warheads.

Though Army has had its 150-km Prithvi-I missiles for some years, it's only now that IAF and Navy have begun operationalising the longer-range variants of the same missile.

The IAF, for instance, has recently moved one of its Prithvi-II missile squadrons from Hyderabad to the Palam-based Western Air Command in New Delhi for swifter deployment on the battle-front in times of emergency, say sources.
The Navy, in turn, is weaponising its Sukanya-class large patrol crafts with Prithvi's "Dhanush" variant, which has a strike range of 250-km to 350-km. "The fitment of Dhanush on INS Survarna and INS Subhadra, for instance, is well underway," said an official.

"The missile stabilisation platform on the warships enables Dhanush, which can carry both conventional and non-conventional warheads, to be fired even in stormy weather," he added.

Interestingly, Defence and Research Development Organisation is also working on a Prithvi variant, being developed under the project name K-15, capable of being launched from a submarine.

This project, if successful, will go a long way towards giving Navy the desperately-needed SLBM (Submarine-Launched Ballistic Missile) capability.


With a declared no-first use nuclear doctrine, India urgently requires the capability to fire nuclear-tipped SLBMs for secure and effective second-strike capabilities.

Incidentally, production facilities at Hyderabad-based Bharat Dynamics Limited have been enhanced for manufacturing at least three dozen Prithvi missiles every year.

Prithvi for airforce, navy
Some of us were wondering about Project K-15 for some time now, not knowing what it was. Defence Minister Pranab Mukherji first metioned about K-15 couple of months back in Parliament. Now we have the answer.
 

aaaditya

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by the way kams do you have any idea about how many prithvi(dhanush) missiles can these patrol vessels carry?these missiles are pretty hefty peices of hardware.

also will these patrol vessles carry any surface to air missile ?otherwise they would be quite vulnerable and not suitable as a second strike platform.
 
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