Indian Army News and Discussion

[aaaditya]

hey guys finally it seems that the arjuns airconditioning problems are soved ,as you might know that airconditioning was one of the vexed problems on the arjun main battle tank,indian army had rejected the installation of an airconditioning unit on their tanks since they would consume engine power.

iam sure this new device forms a perfect solution ,also it proves that the arjun programme is still alive and kicking and evolving too.

here check out this link:

http://www.telegraphindia.com/1060506/asp/frontpage/story_6189609.asp

Ranchi, May 5: India’s main battle tank will never be the same again.
A team of engineers, led by Suchitangshu Chatterjee, from the Ranchi-based Metallurgical and Engineering Consultants (Mecon) Ltd, has developed the technology to keep gunners cool in the confined space and for a long period.
The device, smaller than a tabletop computer, took eight years to develop. It was tested in desert conditions on India’s western front and in Chennai, where the main battle tank, Arjun, is built, says a communication from the Defence Research and Development Organisation (DRDO).
The army has found it suitable for use.
An elated Chatterjee told The Telegraph that only the US had the technology so far to keep a tank in motion “cool”.
Conditions inside a tank, he said, are demanding and the temperature hovers between 45 and 50 degrees Celsius. Sitting in the cramped conditions and in such heat takes a toll on the toughest of soldiers. Many gunners have suffered anxiety syndrome, loss of memory and even temporary insanity.
An airconditioner cannot be fitted in the tank, Chatterjee, a deputy general manager in the company he joined in 1987, said. Any device to be designed by the team had to be small and access energy conveniently. The device ensures continuous air-flow, through tubes, to a special costume that keeps body temperature hovering between 18 and 22 degrees Celsius. This will now protect the gunners from fatigue.
The Mecon team has also developed a pair of battery-operated gloves and socks for soldiers camping at high altitudes and in severe cold. They are yet to undergo field tests, though.
But Chatterjee exuded confidence that they would function in Siachen, where the field tests are likely to be conducted.​

 

[aaaditya]

hey guys here is an interesting article which states that the armed force are going high tech,the army will be getting new automatic temperature controlled vests and pocket uav's,airforce new precision guided missiles and bombs,etc and all these would be indegenously developed pretty impressive.

here check out this link:

http://cities.expressindia.com/fullstory.php?newsid=181195


[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Jawans to get a makeover, courtesy city-based Army unit[/FONT]Express News Service
[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Pune, May 5:[/FONT] [FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]ILL-fitting boots, cumbersome backpacks and a head laden with a heavy helmet, the description conjures up an image of an average Army jawan. However, things are going to change as Pune-based Armament Research Development Establishment (ARDE) will be starting work on a Soldier Assist System (SAS) that will make things easier for the troops.
The SAS comprises a high-tech vest, boot and helmet, which will add teeth to an average soldier’s capability. For instance, the vest will have automatic temperature control, giving comfort to soldiers even in extreme climatic conditions. Moreover, the head gear besides providing protection will also act as a two-way communication device as it will be fitted with headsets and microphones.

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Another element of the SAS will be the boots, which will be fitted with a sensor that will warn the solders of anti-personnel mines. ‘‘Even if someone steps over a mine, the damage to the individual will be minimum,’’ said A Sivathanu Pillai, chief controller, Research and Development, DRDO.
Another capability booster, that is on the anvil, is pocket-sized Unmanned Aerial Vehicle. ‘‘This utility will help the soldier to know events happening in his immediate surroundings,’’ he said.
Pillai, who was in the city to inaugurate a seminar on electroceramics, said the SAS will be one of the focus areas of ARDE and will be implemented during the Eleventh Five-Year Plan.
Elaborating on other thrust areas of ARDE, Pillai also said Precision Guided Munitions (PGMs) or smart bombs for the Armed Forces was also in its scheme of things. ‘‘In future, wars will be fought in a very limited time-frame. Thus, weapon systems have to be deployed fast, will have to have accurate and designed in such a way that the users suffer minimum causality,’’ he said.
Meanwhile, Pillai said the Navy will be fitting three of its warships with the supersonic Brahmos missile. ‘‘The missile has earned a worldwide reputation for its precision strike and by next year the Indian Air Force will also be inducting it into their ranks after conducting necessary trials,’’ he said.
He also expressed confidence of having the missile loaded on submarines in the near future after completing the necessary formalities.
Pune centre to train more BRO personnel
FROM building and maintaining roads in Naxal-infested areas to insurgency-torn places, it is the unarmed wing of the defence establishment — Border Roads Organisation (BRO) — that has been at the forefront of it. And with demand for skilled workers on the rise, the Pune-based training centre General Reserve Engineering Force (GREF) has upgraded the training capability and intake of BRO personnel for refresher courses.
‘‘We are training more personnel — 1,002 — every year (which is double the number than the previous years) as the BRO is moving from manpower-oriented processes to equipment-oriented approach. Besides, the quantum of projects implemented by the BRO has also increased,’’ GREF commandant, Pune centre, Col D Palit said.
For instance, BRO is using new equipment like layers, batch-mixing plants as well as ultra modern work stations for surveying. ‘‘The skills have to be upgraded,’’ Palit explained.
Besides, the centre is also introducing new trades. ‘‘We will be training personnel in masonry, store-keeping, driving and operating earth plants among others. The new agenda has been implemented from April 1,’’ he said.
Apart from the refresher courses for the BRO personnel, the centre also has the capacity to conduct pre-induction training for 2,000 new recruits every years. Meanwhile, Palit said the BRO needed enhanced security to finish the projects especially in Naxal-infested areas like Gadchiroli, Bhandara and Gondia. ‘‘The State has done the best it could, but if we get enhanced security, the deployment of our personnel in the region can be increase and implementation of the projects will be quick,’’ he said. ‘‘In fact, the casual workers that we employ in Maharashtra get the highest pay compared to other projects,’’ Palit added.
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[suryaaa]

finaly our soldiers are going to be at par with with their western counter parts in tech.i am talking about "f-insas" which is a hi tech soldier program.

check out this link.

http://www.hindu.com/2006/05/09/stories/2006050900490900.htm

we can except this system to be operational in 2-3 years.:jump :jump

 

[aaaditya]

finaly our soldiers are going to be at par with with their western counter parts in tech.i am talking about "f-insas" which is a hi tech soldier program.

check out this link.

http://www.hindu.com/2006/05/09/stories/2006050900490900.htm

we can except this system to be operational in 2-3 years.:jump :jump

a billion dollars will be spent initially on this project,request for proposals have already been sent to heckler and koch,usa,south africa and israel for the weapon and the integrated soldier systems.

 

[vijayshimla]

MBT for India

IS Arjun's Second Prototype rolling out ? Arjun 1 was a monster and failed DRDO project.Plz GIve me link to ur article.

Arjun has had too long a gestation, and problem is that despite buy Swadeshi mantra, it will never make to the field.I think India should take the bitter pill, and opt for German Leopard II tank buy about 100, and manufacture the balance 2000 in India through Tatas at a cost which will be lower than any modern tank manufasctured in West. After all Leo II is the best there is and at present i think possibly Germans will also be anxious to sell the tech.

 

[aaaditya]

hey guys here is an interesting news article ,seems that mbda is interested in making india its 5th major operation center.

here check out this link:
http://www.financialexpress.com/fe_full_story.php?content_id=127838

BERLIN, MAY 20: MBDA, part of Europe’s largest aerospace company EADS (European Aeronautics Defence and Space Company), is looking for more defence and industrial partnerships in India.
Reflecting at the potential India has in providing advanced defence [FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif][FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]technology[/FONT][/FONT] to the world, MBDA CEO Marwan Lahoud told FE at the ILA 2006, “We consider India to be critical to MBDA’s future strategic industrial and defence partnerships. But we need to have more programmes in place to move this long-term strategic partnership forward.”

 

[aaaditya]

hey guys seems that india is really interested in acquiring japanese defence technology ,what do you think are the chances of japan selling defence technology to india,also i would like to know what are the defence equipment indigenously developed by japan and how do they compare with comparable us and european systems.

here check out this link:
http://www.indianexpress.com/story/5095.html


TOKYO, May 24:As he arrives on a path-breaking visit here tomorrow, Defence Minister Pranab Mukherjee is expected to gently push at Japan’s closed but unlocked door on defence technology exports to India.

While no final decision is expected during his three-day visit here, Mukherjee hopes to launch a structured defence dialogue that will facilitate the transfer of Japanese military and dual-use technologies to India in the near future.

The joint statement to be issued after Mukherjee’s talks will underline growing cooperation on a range of issues, including the security of sea lanes, counter-terrorism and disaster management.
It is the prospect of defence technology transfers that, however, has emerged as a potentially exciting element in the widening Indo-Japanese engagement.
Besides meeting senior figures of the Japanese security establishment, Mukherjee will reach out to the top guns of the defence industry in Tokyo.
Mukherjee’s soundings here on arms transfers and the sale of dual-use technologies come on top of intensified defence interaction between the two establishments in recent months.
This year alone saw the visit of all the three military service chiefs from Japan. Last year, the chief of the Japanese Defence Agency, equivalent of our Defence Ministry, was in Delhi.
Mukherjee is eager to elevate these high-level exchanges to a more enduring and mutually beneficial defence engagement.
Japan is the only major producer of advanced military technologies in the world that does not supply arms and equipment to India. Bound by strict laws that prohibit sale of arms exports of any kind, Japan has made an exception only for its long-standing ally — the US.
India has traditionally accessed Russia and West Europe for arms and equipment. Since the early 1990s, Israel has emerged as a major source of defence technology for India. The US over the last year has unveiled a new policy that promises to sell advanced weapon systems to India.
To widen India’s defence options further, Mukherjee would want his Japanese interlocutors to start relaxing the current rules against substantive defence cooperation with New Delhi.
Despite its peace constitution, Japan has for long been the second largest spender on defence. Its top defence industries, including Mitsubishi, Ishikawajima, Toshiba and Kawasaki, hold a treasure trove of advanced military technologies.
Mukherjee is likely to remind his hosts that India had brought large numbers of Nissan trucks for military use from Japan in the 1950s before the rules against arms exports came into force in 1976.
The defence industry here has been pressing the Government for some time now to relax the current restrictive rules against arms exports.
The arms industry here believes that liberalised policies on arms exports would bring in considerable revenues and increase the competitiveness of the Japanese arms manufacturers.
When the Japanese Government issued new defence guidelines at the end of 2004, it was hinted that reconsideration of the policy on arms exports was on the anvil.
As part of the decision to jointly develop and produce weapons systems with the US, the Japanese Cabinet had in December 2004 stated that cooperation in arms production with other countries could also be considered. Informed sources here say Japan is already debating the possibility of exporting non-lethal arms to the South-East Asian countries to counter terrorism and maritime piracy.

 

[aaaditya]

hey guys can someone provide any information on the eads electronic warfare systems,seems that the eads are trying to market them in india.

how does the eads ew equipment compare with israeli ones?

here check out this link;

http://www.outlookindia.com/pti_news.asp?id=387255

EADSEADS bids for hi-tech EW system for Indian armed forcesAMITABHA ROYCHOWDHURY, BERLIN, MAY 24 (PTI)
In a bid to tap the Indian market, the European Aeronautic Defence and Space consortium is in the race to provide hi-tech early warning systems for helicopters and armoured vehicles of the Indian army besides offering ground-based radars and unmanned aerial vehicles.
"Early warning (EW) systems are in increasing demand worldwide with even terrorists possessing shoulder-fired missiles to attack helicopters. ... We have requests from India for these equipment and we are in the bidding process to step into this business in India," Bernhard Gerwert, CEO and President of EADS Defence Electronics, told PTI on the sidelines of an international airshow, which concluded here on Sunday.
He said the EADS would tie up with Indian companies to produce these highly sophisticated equipments and also hold talks with Indian research institutes to develop and evolve the product pattern.
Gerwert, accompanied by company Vice President Alexander Reinhardt, said the army has been asking EADS whether the system could be developed further for protecting armoured vehicles.
"The land forces have been asking for the same technology ... They want the same electronic equipment to protect tanks and armoured vehicles. We have developed this equipment for German land forces," he said, adding that negotiations were continuing with Indian companies on the issue.
Gerwert said that his firm was producing large variety of equipment for COMINT (communication intelligence), SIGINT (signal intelligence) and ELINT (electronic intelligence).
"We are developing these in India through our South African subsidiary, Greentech Aviation," he added without elaborating on the nature of such devices.
Speaking on network-centric simulation systems which coordinate and combine wartime efforts of different wings of the armed forces, he said "EADS will develop such equipment in India, which is a leading IT power and there are lot of experts there doing research and development on these issues".
"I cannot go into details ... I can only say that there is not only expertise, but a big market in India. Why should we hire Indian experts abroad. We will go right there and do work in India and that too, very soon," he said. The EADS Defence Electronics produces a wide range of electronic self-protection systems, missile warning systems, radar jammers, laser-guided counter-attack measures and EW systems, which could be fitted on fighter jets like the futuristic Eurofighter 'Tornado', military choppers like Germany's Tiger, the NH90 and A400M military transport plane. It was also developing "active protection" equipment called DIRCUM (Direct Infra-Red Counter Measure system) for aircraft, which are not just flares but active laser equipment which seek and destroy missiles.

 

[aaaditya]

hey guys here is an interesting news article ,seems that indian army has cleared the indigenously designed nishant unmanned air vehicle for induction.

here check out this link:


AIRCRAFTIndian Army to acquire 'Nishant' by mid-2007KOZHIKODE, MAY 23 (PTI)
The first fleet of indigenously-built Unmanned Aerial Vehicle `Nishant', specifically designed for any-time launch and recovery, would be delivered to the Army by mid-2007, Aeronautical Development Establishment Director G Elangovan said today.
ADE conducted its 106th flight trial early this morning and the multi-mission UAV's successful launch and recovery here was watched by officials of the Coast Guard, he said.
"The uniqueness of Nishant is that it has no wheel at the bottom and is ready for launch and recovery from any point", he told reporters here.
Noting that it did not require a runway, he said the Indian Army had placed orders for the UAV with the Bangalore-based ADE and the first fleet would be delivered by middle of next year.
`Nishant' would be the state-of-the-art UAV to be acquired by the Army after `Lakshaya', which is now used as an aerial target system for shooting, Programme Director Natarajan said. Besides, the UAV would also be used for civilian applications, he said. With the commissioning of the ninth Indian Coast Guard station at Beypore near here - third in Kerala - full-time surveillance of coastal areas of the state would be complete, Coast Guard officials said.

 

[suryaaa]

hey guys here is an interesting news article ,seems that indian army has cleared the indigenously designed nishant unmanned air vehicle for induction.

here check out this link:


AIRCRAFTIndian Army to acquire 'Nishant' by mid-2007KOZHIKODE, MAY 23 (PTI)
The first fleet of indigenously-built Unmanned Aerial Vehicle `Nishant', specifically designed for any-time launch and recovery, would be delivered to the Army by mid-2007, Aeronautical Development Establishment Director G Elangovan said today.
ADE conducted its 106th flight trial early this morning and the multi-mission UAV's successful launch and recovery here was watched by officials of the Coast Guard, he said.
"The uniqueness of Nishant is that it has no wheel at the bottom and is ready for launch and recovery from any point", he told reporters here.
Noting that it did not require a runway, he said the Indian Army had placed orders for the UAV with the Bangalore-based ADE and the first fleet would be delivered by middle of next year.
`Nishant' would be the state-of-the-art UAV to be acquired by the Army after `Lakshaya', which is now used as an aerial target system for shooting, Programme Director Natarajan said. Besides, the UAV would also be used for civilian applications, he said. With the commissioning of the ninth Indian Coast Guard station at Beypore near here - third in Kerala - full-time surveillance of coastal areas of the state would be complete, Coast Guard officials said.

how good is our nishant in comparison with israle uav's ,which is in service with our armed forces.is their any export variant of it /is their any other country intrested in it.:dance2

 

[vedang]

a recent article in this defence mag named 'FORCE' around 5-6 months back(don remember exactly)had an article about the advantages&&deficiencies in NISHANT...acc 2 them it was no competition in front of the israeli uavs....

 

[aaaditya]

a recent article in this defence mag named 'FORCE' around 5-6 months back(don remember exactly)had an article about the advantages&&deficiencies in NISHANT...acc 2 them it was no competition in front of the israeli uavs....

nishant is comparable to the seaker and the searcher in terms of the endurance and technology.

the ones purchased from israel are the high endurance -long range hunters and hermes and the harpy attack drone.

israelis are world leaders in the uav technology (even superior to the us).

india and israel are jointly developing three types of uav's ,they are the gagan,male(medium altitude and long endurance) and pawan.

 

[suryaaa]

india and israel are jointly developing three types of uav's ,they are the gagan,male(medium altitude and long endurance) and pawan.

hey aaditya can you give some info on this ,because this is new and realy good for our armed forces.

for what roles these three are meant to,i mean their capabilities,distinct ofcourse.

is anyone of it has the ability to carry weapons atleast like us predators

 

[aaaditya]

hey aaditya can you give some info on this ,because this is new and realy good for our armed forces.

for what roles these three are meant to,i mean their capabilities,distinct ofcourse.

is anyone of it has the ability to carry weapons atleast like us predators

these uav's are versions of the hermes.images of these were posted during the recent defexpo-06 along with their specifications.unfortunately i dont have them with me now ,though i will find out and post the information.

 

[aaaditya]

hey guys seems that indian army will be receiving new ruggedised laptops courtesy the hcl.

here check out this link for their specifications:

http://www.crn-india.com/breakingnews/stories/64479.html

HCL Infosystems has unveiled the 'defense-ready' laptops in the country and this is one among the series of segment-specific leaptops. The company says that these leaptops have rugged die-cast magnesium structural components, GPS enablement, 'on-move' chargeability and backlit keyboards to enable work in pitch-dark conditions.

With the optional HDD heaters, the leaptop can keep on ticking in operating temperature -20 degrees to 55 degrees C and storage temperature -40 degrees to 70 degrees C. The hard disk drive is Shock Mounted to prevent HDD crash in case of notebook fall, even from a height of three feet on a steel plate. Further, fully waterproof glow-in-the-dark keyboard prevents damage of notebook when exposed to rain, fall in water and work in low-lit environment.

Truly rugged, HCL leaptop can be just closed and dumped into trucks during base shifting and also works in case of a drop on the ground. These leaptops can sustain 26 repeated three feet drops onto plywood over concrete. Another unusual feature is the USB Based Wireless Lock in which the computer enters 'Lock Mode' when the user is away from the computer by more than the effective range (around 2m) and will resume normal operation when the user is back within the effective range. This with the option of HDD Data Encryption makes this the best and the most secure choice for the defense.

The Network Driver Interface Specification (NDIS) technology allows users to dynamically and seamlessly travel in their active sessions between LAN, PAN, WLAN and WWAN. The leaptop has a number of built-in antennas for all kinds of wireless communication on the go.

 

[nuke_em]

its like the tablet used by US army you the Panasonic toughtbook...but this is much better wow...

 

[aaaditya]

hey guys dont know if i posted this article here before ,but in case i did not then here it is.

it is a pretty decent article on india's indigenously designed rov(remotely operated vehicle).

here check out this link:


http://www.drdo.com/pub/techfocus/jun06/welcometfjune06.htm

 

[aaaditya]

hey guys seems that a russian company will overhaul the existing indian army helicopters,these are most likely to be the mi17 and the mi26,since the mi32 has been upgraded utilising the israeli technology,i suppose they will no longer be upgraded.

indian army also plans to acquire about 80 attack helicopters.

here check out this link:

Russian firm to overhaul Indian copters

Special Correspondent
Defence Ministry approves servicing of Russian-origin fleet



NEW DELHI: The Defence Ministry has approved the overhauling of the armed forces' Russian origin helicopter fleet by a Russian Government-controlled company, which has already completed a couple of projects for naval ships.
Initially, overhauling of helicopter navigation and radar systems, engine control mechanisms and other electronic controls will be taken up. Engines will be overhauled in future.
The company, Rosoboronservice (India), has been especially created to service Indian military assets through a special decree issued by President Vladimir Putin.
Difficulty in getting spares

Sources said that after the break-up of the Soviet Union, the Indian armed forces were put to difficulty in procuring spares as companies were located in different countries. Some firms stopped manufacturing spares for older military platforms, leading to the Indian armed forces cannibalising spares from grounded planes.
The issue was raised several times at the annual meetings between the Russian President and the Indian Prime Minister. Since then, the situation has improved but uncertainty remains.
The initiative to overhaul Soviet/Russian origin equipment was taken after Moscow realised that if the after-sales servicing record continued to be poor, future orders for military equipment could go to other countries. The offer to service the Indian fleet was helped by the integration of all Russian helicopter companies under Oberonprom. Rosoboronservice (India) has entered into a contract with this company for its India operations.
The helicopters planned to be overhauled in India include the Kamov 25, 28, and 31 series with the Navy; Mi 8, 17, 26 with the Air Force; and the Army's Mi series. The plant to service the Kamov series will be set up in Goa — the heart of the Navy's aviation operations — since the Navy owns most of the choppers of this type.
Another plant will be set up in central India to take care of the Mi series.
There are between 350 and 400 Russian-origin helicopters in service with the Indian armed forces. Of these about 50 are Kamov variants and the rest belong to the Mi series. To address security concerns, Rosoboronservice (India) staff consist primarily of ex-servicemen who handled and maintained this equipment during their tenure with the Indian armed forces.

 

[aaaditya]

hey guys seems that the bell 407 shen has met all the indian army's requirements for a light chopper for scout/transport roles ,bell is also offering assistance to hal in developing its lch based on technology derived from the ah1z cobra.

 

[aprasadi]

I dont think why is india going for another scout or light transport heli. when we have ALH which has got success in eveyfield. wht we need to develop with them in collaboration is medium to heavy lift helis and combat helis like apache. The current urgent need is such a heli which can airlift 30-40 fully armed soldiers in 10 ton class. Also LCH should be developed in a rapid phase to counter growing need of combat helis and to replace the ageing MI-35(hind)