F-35B/C - Naval Air Discussions (USN & USMC)

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F-35C Brief TAILHOOK 2018 OPNAV/APW Panel Sep 2018

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Ofc idealy better a PDF but to 10 sec in the chart what is it CFT "MODs " or about ?
But on the chart more than 28 birds ? i see 36 -37 lines… !

According USAF reports planned AGM-158A/B you think for Block 4 or 5 ?

Tests on the CVN finished i think for IOC early 2019 to check especialy if corrosion and ALIS problems get fixed
Remains also the delicate helmet for night landing seems even the new have problems !

 

[Ranger25]

Could be interesting to see if USMC F35s are out to work in theatre They’re the only ship based strike aircraft in the ME after the USS Truman departed.



Marines Prepared to Use F-35Bs in Middle East Combat If Needed; No Other Naval Aviation Nearby - USNI News

 

[Air Force Brat]

Could be interesting to see if USMC F35s are out to work in theatre They’re the only ship based strike aircraft in the ME after the USS Truman departed.



Marines Prepared to Use F-35Bs in Middle East Combat If Needed; No Other Naval Aviation Nearby - USNI News

Absolutely, those Bravo's are up and running, and ready to go to work, so we shall see??

 

[King Wally]

F-35 stealth fighter crashes for the first timeDefenceTalk.com | at DefenceTalk

Looks like a B model was lost today. No post mortem yet. Pilot ejected and survived luckily.

 

[SpazSinbad]

USMC F-35B lost on Friday (not 'today' yesterday Monday 01 Oct 2018). Meanwhile: Beaufort Marine Corps pilot released from hospital after plane crash, officials say 29 Sep 2018

"...The Beaufort Marine Corps Air Station pilot who ejected from an F-35 jet Friday morning before it crashed on Little Barnwell Island has been released from the hospital ...Stephenson said Saturday morning that flight operations at the air station will continue as normal Saturday and that the 2nd Marine Aircraft Wing will also continue to operate as normal until directed otherwise...." 29 Sep 2018

 

[SpazSinbad]

"...Finally, Winter [head of the Joint Strike Fighter program, Vice Adm. Mat Winter] noted that neither Britain nor the Marines have taken any fleet-wide actions to curb F-35B flights in the wake of last Friday’s crash near Beaufort, S.C. Normally, if a systemic problem is suspected as the cause of a major crash a fleet might well be grounded or stood down for a safety review. That, Winter noted, has not happened." 02 Oct 2018 F-35 Hourly Flying Costs Plunge $12K; Turkey Still Getting 100 F-35s

 

[ngatimozart]

The USMC have been experiment with different ways of leveraging their HIMARS. The latest is using TDL from a F-35B to the HIMARS resulting in destruction of the target. Earlier in the year the USMC loaded a HIMARS into a USAF MC-130 flew to an austere location, rolled out said HIMARS, fired off four rounds at two targets, reloaded HIMARS back into aircraft, flew out and RTB.

Marines connect F-35 jet to HIMARS rocket shot for first time

 

[Air Force Brat]

Could be interesting to see if USMC F35s are out to work in theatre They’re the only ship based strike aircraft in the ME after the USS Truman departed.



Marines Prepared to Use F-35Bs in Middle East Combat If Needed; No Other Naval Aviation Nearby - USNI News

Yep, they're flying off the Essex, made a strike in Afghan, latest Port of Call was Quatar?? one of our neighbor kids is a Marine working on the F-35B aboard the Essex!

 

[Air Force Brat]

Could be interesting to see if USMC F35s are out to work in theatre They’re the only ship based strike aircraft in the ME after the USS Truman departed.



Marines Prepared to Use F-35Bs in Middle East Combat If Needed; No Other Naval Aviation Nearby - USNI News

Yep, the USS ESSEX is in the Persian Gulf as we speak!

 

[ngatimozart]

The USMC and USN loaded up 12 F-35Bs plus Osprey tankers on to USS Wasp, in the South China Sea during EX Balikatan in the Philippines recently. They were testing the concept of a "Lightning Carrier" and harkens back to the days of the CVL. The intention is to have up to ~24 F-35B plus tanker Ospreys on America class LHDs operating as CVLs.

US Marines turned a warship into an F-35 'Lightning carrier' in a test to boost US power

 

[Ranger25]

Fits nicely with the distributed lethality concept

It may also serve as the Air arm of the new “Up Gunned” ESG that combines the laments of a Traditional ESG but with more F35s and two or more DDG 51s

Wasp Expeditionary Strike Group Arrives in Okinawa to Offload 31st MEU

 

[t68]

Fits nicely with the distributed lethality concept

It may also serve as the Air arm of the new “Up Gunned” ESG that combines the laments of a Traditional ESG but with more F35s and two or more DDG 51s

Wasp Expeditionary Strike Group Arrives in Okinawa to Offload 31st MEU

Well maybe those aviation enhanced America class LHA were not that bad an idea as an addition to the fleet of well docked LHD

 

[John Fedup]

I believe after the first 2 ships of this class, the well deck will return in the follow on ships.

 

[t68]

I believe after the first 2 ships of this class, the well deck will return in the follow on ships.

Yes correct, but from what I can understand that well deck loses a bit of hanger space and height as well bunkerage from the snippets of info available

 

[DaveS124]

On a related note, while we wait from South Korea to finish its work on whether or not to go down its own embarked F-35B route - there's been no news since they announced the review last year - this interesting quote came up recently..

"The US Pacific marine commander also observed that the ROKS Dokdo and the ROKS Marado, large amphibious attack vessels in the South Korean navy categorized as “landing platform helicopters,” (LPH) had been designed to carry the Marineon helicopters and suggested that US F-35B stealth fighters could also land on these ships during future training operations. If the ROK and US Marines continue to develop their ability to train and operate together, Craparotta said, there’s no reason why US Marine Corps F-35B fighters couldn’t land on those ships in the future."

Whole article here - Pacific commander of US Marines says it deployed 14 aircraft to S. Korea for joint exercises

PLAN brass will just love it when there's a US LHD, a Dokdo and an Izumo loaded with F-35Bs wherever they like in the Pacific. Yep, they'll love it.

 

[Ranger25]

More than likely their decks would need to be modified to sustain the high temps of the B models.

 

[seaspear]

One of the arguments against the conversion of the Canberra class to carry the f35b was the addition of storage facilities for fuel effecting other capabilities ,is there information on how this would be done for these ships

 

[oldsig127]

One of the arguments against the conversion of the Canberra class to carry the f35b was the addition of storage facilities for fuel effecting other capabilities ,is there information on how this would be done for these ships

Are you suggesting that the storage of F-35 fuel would enable other capabilities (effecting) or is this a typo and you had you meant it would impact other capabilities, possibly adversely (affecting)?

Pretty much the opposite.

oldsig

 

[seaspear]

Fair enough , I understood that to enable the use of the F35B on the Canberra class required additional fuel storage for those aircraft and that this would impact the capabilities of its other roles ,this extent I have not seen documented

 

[OPSSG]

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