F-35B/C - Naval Air Discussions (USN & USMC)

Rob c

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The Navy F35 was designed to not need a carrier and to be vertical takeoff, thus it is a total failure
Did you get out of bed on the wrong side today, Relying on junk journalism is not a good idea when forming an opinion. The Navies F35C was never designed to be a vertical or even short takeoff aircraft but rather a conventional carrier launched aircraft. The F35 B was always meant to be a SHORT TAKEOFF and vertical landing aircraft and that is what it is. I would suggest a more logical. fact based from reliable sources approach, to any argument, rather than an emotive response based on junk journalism.
 

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The Navy F35 was designed to not need a carrier and to be vertical takeoff, thus it is a total failure
You are an ignorant troll. The rhetorical question on the US Navy’s F-35C below, has destroyed your standing to other members of DT.

Q: If the F-35C is such a failure, why did the world’s largest user of the STOVL F-35B also buy the F-35C?​

There are two services using the C model — the US Navy and US Marines (as the largest user of the F-35B).
22 months after the 1st US Navy squadron declared its IOC for the F-35C, the 1st US Marine Corp squadron declared its IOC.

I know it is difficult understand, but if you bother to read the 3 threads on the F-35, you might learn something.
 
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John Fedup

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No wonder budget constrained navies are impressed with the “B”! Not a bad choice for remote land basing of an expensive asset either.

 

t68

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No wonder budget constrained navies are impressed with the “B”! Not a bad choice for remote land basing of an expensive asset either.


Wonder what the advantage is over landing in the direction the carrier is moving, emergency landing, easier aircraft spotting?
 

Terran

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Couple days old but F35C on the deck of Carl Vincent coming soon to a theater of operations soon. This means the Fleet carriers now have the first stealth aircraft options something that until the F35 was Air Force only. Along side it are E2D advance Hawkeyes CMV22 Osprey and EA18 Growlers.
USMC and the Queen. The USMC as an organization has some of the closest ties to the UK military of any of the US services. The Cross decking of USMC F35B on the QE class. Some interesting aspects mentioned are how the maintenance, handling and arming. A question I have is if the Marines will be calling in assistance from MV22s from time to time, as to my understanding the British choppers can’t transport F135 power packs.
 

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This is the second accident with a F-35B within a month; with the nose gear issue in Okinawa.

The US Marines lost another F-35B in a class A mishap — with the pilot forced to eject after the undercarriage collapsed in a VL. The mishap class largely dictates the number, rank and experience of personnel appointed to the Safety Investigation Board.
 
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John Fedup

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The attached article details the results of the F-35C loss in the SCS. Pilot error was the cause. The shit hot landing manoeuvre is now banned. Interesting information on the automated landing controls (which the aviator forgot to switch on). Expensive event, $120k to repair the carrier deck, $2.5 million to repair a EA-18G, and of course 120million plus for the F-35C. Then there is the cost of training the aviator who will likely never fly off a carrier again.

 
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