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koxinga said:

Will they do something better? Unlikely and the eventual numbers purchased would be small, making such investments costly. It seems this is more national interests than financial interest.

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I believe many defense coop with Turkiye are more National Politics consideration then procurement cost ones. The aircraft that going to be choose as base, will also choose as Political interest rather efficiencies. That's why before the talk are CN235/295. Even if business jet being choose, the rumours talk not on Bombardier but either Dasault or Embrear business jets as base.

Now Frenchie you tube salesman spread rumours that Chinese Y-9 become 'prefer' candidate for AEW&C base using Chinese Radar and Pakistan data link (Link 17). As ussual this salesman going to publicly trash any competitors. Still means the race for AEW&C seems getting momentum.

Like I said before the moment F-15EX being drop, there will be others business and Projects lining up to get portions.

Circulating from an enthusiasts X account on one of C-130H that being refurbished at DI and GMF. Not clear whether this one being refurbished, but looking the hangar I suspect it is in DI (correction it is in GMF).

Shown the camo now got some colour as TNI-AU C-130J, and new glass avionics of Collins base.

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As reminder Kemhan ungkap 20 pesawat C-130 Hercules tipe H dimodernisasi PTDI-GMF back in Nov 25, MinDef claim total 20 C-130H that being and going to be modified by GMF and DI. Thus basically all C-130H, including ex RAAF going to get center wing box, avionics and other structural modernisation.

DI shown video on the progress of Test Flight of N219 prototype.

This person has access on Euro Defense Export information. Seems E system solutions training infrastructure for TNI-AU base on:

• Agreessor Sq contract with Mig-29,
• LIFT/LCA supply with 24+12 M346FA, which already talk before as Hawk 209/109 replacement,
• Basic Trainer 24 PC-21NG,
• Multi Engine Trainer 12 PC-24

So it is end to end training solution. Question what T-50i and KT-1B place on this scheme, remain the question.

Ananda said:

DI shown video on the progress of Test Flight of N219 prototype.

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Once again a whole test flight program....
And some years ago according to multiple sources, Tempo in September 2024 for example,,mass production was already started.
Unbelievable, it looks like this is happen to give opportunities to other manufacturers to supply small twin turboprop aircrafts to Indonesia.

Ananda said:

Exclusivité indonésienne pour débuter la semaine. E-System Solution FZ a été choisie par le gouvernement indonésien pour acquérir 24 avions d’entraînement PC-21 NG pour la formation des pilotes… | Pierre Aycard

Exclusivité indonésienne pour débuter la semaine. E-System Solution FZ a été choisie par le gouvernement indonésien pour acquérir 24 avions d’entraînement PC-21 NG pour la formation des pilotes indonésiens. . Le PC-21 avait notamment été choisi par la France pour assurer la formation avancée des...

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This person has access on Euro Defense Export information. Seems E system solutions training infrastructure for TNI-AU base on:

• Agreessor Sq contract with Mig-29,
• LIFT/LCA supply with 24+12 M346FA, which already talk before as Hawk 209/109 replacement,
• Basic Trainer 24 PC-21NG,
• Multi Engine Trainer 12 PC-24

So it is end to end training solution. Question what T-50i and KT-1B place on this scheme, remain the question.

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"Multi engine trainer", that could be the N219.
Still in my opinion, this E system package is such a waste of money. TNI-AU already have almost everything, from gliders, to the Grob G 120TP, KT-1B, T-50...
And to replace the Hawk Mk.209, the FA-50 is perfect for that.

Personally the one that I'm bit skeptical is PC-24. Light Business Jet for training turboprop heavy Transport fleet ? PC-21NG replacing KT-1B that's more than in average 22 years old, so there's some sense in there. M346FA as Hawk 209/109 replacement will be tossed up with FA-50. M346FA already have BVR missiles that already integrated with, while FA-50 still have trouble get license on integrating AMRAM.

Still I believe the fiscal reality will not go to let all being taken. I still believe the current Grob, KT-1B and T-50i still prove reliable training combo, and more fiscal friendly to be maintained. But on Hawk 209/109 replacement, seems the noises shown direction M346FA will get it. In the end some choices going to be taken to prioritize fiscal reality.

Ananda said:

M346FA already have BVR missiles that already integrated with, while FA-50 still have trouble get license on integrating AMRAM.

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Leonardo's M-346FA web page says "the M-346FA can be equipped with short range infrared guided air-to-air missiles", & the photos on the page only show AAMs in that class. It looks as if the page may not have been updated for a long time, though. Can you provide more information?

swerve said:

looks as if the page may not have been updated for a long time, though. Can you provide more information?

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Put this before, as Leonardo shown M346FA is already integrated with Mica. KAI from South Korean media and forums, now try to get FA-50 integrate with either Mica or Meteor after US license problem with AMRAAM. Still they keep offering FA-50 blk 20 as AMRAAM equiped LCA, even no confirmation yet on AMRAAM license for FA-50 blk 20 yet. Thus make FA-50 even in their latest block still not having BVR yet, while M346FA already has one.

I believe Leonardo will also try to make M346FA integrate also with Meteor, thus provide two BVR alternative. From local media and forum, talk the similarities weapon set up of M346FA and Rafale is part of consideration to choose it as Hawk 209 replacement.