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[Ananda]

No way they will be placing these planes as there are older/aging planes in the fleet (Hawks, SUs)

Hawk is aimed to be replace by M346FA. Flankers being discussed going to be replace by either Su-35 or J-10CE. I have doubt about Russian deal as they can not provide financing scheme. Thus more likely candidate of J-10CE can come depending on price and financing packages. This is as Indonesia want to balance defense procurement, with either Chinese or Russian fighters in eastern Indonesia.

Thus if the plan not upgrading on those C/D Blk 25, then they can go first by end of this decade up to 2030. That's coincide with the plan KF-21 Blk 2 (if the deal going to be finalise by mid of this year). If another batches of Rafale also being finalise, then more likely TNI-AU will have Rafale and KF-21 as their main fighter by 2030+. Potential of M346FA also not final yet as rumours saying KAI fight for FA-50 (either by more fighters or upgrading existing ones).

What I have doubt is KAAN and Su-35. KAAN has condition precedence in the contract, which is availability of ISTAR Free engine. That in my opinion is too many 'if', and just like Russia, Turkiye has limited capacities for their FI to provide competitive financing. No acceptable financing and prices, then no contract execution. This already been seen several times.

am also increasingly skeptical of how realistic of these plans. The fiscal reality for ID isn't that good, with credit re-rating as well as loose spending / potential deficit due to political projects like MBG.

At present time, everyone are having fiscal pressure due to Trump's war. However the talk of Indonesia fiscal deficit, credit rating negative outlook, at this moment being enhance by some in market that does not like Purbaya as he is consider fiscal expansionist compare to Sri Mulyani which's market darling. MBG it self now being reduce to compensate with increase in Fuel subsidies. Thus Prabowo's administration shown willingness to cut MBG to save the fiscal deficit at 3%. Presently I see some factions in here try to use MBG and fiscal deficit as way to push Prabowo to sack Purbaya.

I'm not a Prabowo supporter, I'm more market supporter. However since Ukraine war, market more and more being influences by big players politics. Some does not like Indonesia internal changes, some does not like Indonesia sign MDCP with US Trump. Still it is too early to see what's real situations as now everything in market being clouded and jiteries by Trump's war.

How long this war going to last, is anyone guess. However now Republican behind the scene are seems begin pushing Trump to finish ASAP. They begin see their support numbers decreasing against democrats. They are now fighthing for their seats. Thus even some Republican pushing for the end of war, despite usually they are following Trump and Aipac on this war. Thus breaking sign begin to crack on Trump's Republican support.

So who knows, what kind of adjustment will happen, even of the war going to finish soon. Some prices going to be paid. Thus will that means all TNI-AU plan will happen ? Off course not, not evem before this war happen, all the plans will come to fruitfull result. Afterall this is Indonesia, they make 5 sales lobbies, and if 2 going to be executed, it is already achievement.

 

[Sandhi Yudha]

Today on 5 May 2026, IPTN has signed a contract with PT Mitra Aviasi Perkasa for the procurement of 4 N219 aircrafts. The contract has a value of $ 36,1 million and the first delivery is expected in 2028.

On 3 November 2022, Indonesian company PT Karya Logistik Indotama (PT KLI) ordered 11 N219s configured for passenger transport, for US$80.5 million. The first aircraft of this acquisition is scheduled for delivery 28 months after the contract's entry into force.

And on 9 December 2025, PT BIBU Panji Sakti signed a memorandum of understanding with IPTN for three N219-100 in cargo configuration.

Antaranews claims that this is the first order from a private company, so the two acquisitions above are probably both cancelled.
Perdana! PT DI tandatangani kontrak penjualan empat N219 ke swasta - ANTARA News

 

[Ananda]

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1.2K views · 94 reactions | ️Baykar’dan KIZILELMA ihracatı İmzalanan anlaşma ile Endonezya’ya 12 adet KIZILELMA tedarik edilecek. Anlaşma, +48 adet opsiyon da içeriyor. | Milli Savunma

️Baykar’dan KIZILELMA ihracatı İmzalanan anlaşma ile Endonezya’ya 12 adet KIZILELMA tedarik edilecek. Anlaşma, +48 adet opsiyon da içeriyor.

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Honestly, more UAV like this Kizilelma is better then commited to KAAN. More economical, already proven tech, and potentially can be used as wingman concept with Rafale or even KF-21.

This is also potentially can be launch on light carrier at the size of Garibaldi. Hope they see the light and drop KAAN. Bayaraktar tied up from TB3, Akinci to Kizilelma it is more manageable.

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Republikorp CEO claim that the facility for MRO and local production of those drones is being prepared. Altough he also say this for sometime. Rumours say the facility location is not even set yet. So far it is either can be in Batam Hang Nadim airport or West Java Kertajati airport.

 

[Ananda]

Antaranews claims that this is the first order from a private company, so the two acquisitions above are probably both cancelled.

Both previous announcement actually still on MOI stages, and not procurement contract. This one according to DI Facebook already procurement contract one. I suspect this MAP got government contract and using N219 support that.

MAP them selves is basically aviation scholl About us - PT Mitra Aviasi Perkasa thus I suspect the contract supported by government work for them. It is already in business for some time as aviation school, thus have more back ground in aviation business compare to two previous potential buyers on MOI stages.

 

[Ananda]

28K views · 1K reactions | kedatangan rafale di pekanbaru 10 mei 2026 | KERIS reborn

kedatangan rafale di pekanbaru 10 mei 2026

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From Keris FB, on the arrival of 2nd flight of Batch 1 of 6 Rafale, at Pekanbaru AB. This flight consist of 2 Rafale C and 1 Rafale B. Thus total 4 Rafale B and 2 Rafale C already enter TNI-AU operational status. Thus all Batch 1 contract already been delivered, and next have to wait for Batch 2 of 18 contract delivery. Considering batch 2 has 1 year different effectiveness of contract then batch 1, I suspect it will begin delivery by next year.

All 42 Rafale of 3 batches from what I gather scheddule to be deliver by end of this decade. I heard some negotiation happening to get faster schedulle, however since Dasault has to work with other contracts like with Qatar, India, and French own, I doubt Indonesia can get faster delivery schedulle then previously planned by Dasault.

 

[Ananda]

This is from Turkiye SAHA 2026 defence exhibition site. TAI confirm that any deliveries to Indonesia depends to availability of TF35000. Thus this confirm also the contract in sense have condition precedence before can be executed.

In short in my opinion KAAN definetely not like Rafale even also not like KF-21. Still long way to go, and if after 2029 new administration coming to power (ie present one lost the next election), it can still be halted or drag on on execution just like KF-21. From what I heard, KAAN like other potential Turkiye defence contract depends toward Gulf (either UAE or Qatar) financial institution financing line. Difference with France and ROK that can use their own FI to prepare financing scheme.

 

[Sandhi Yudha]

So, it seems the Rafale package is including the AASM HAMMER guides bombs and Meteor missiles.
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[Arji]

So, it seems the Rafale package is including the AASM HAMMER guides bombs and Meteor missiles.
KERIS reborn

I thought it's always been the case, but people said it's only a mockup for the ones in the ceremony today

Edit: to be fair, they always use mockup for these ceremonies. What I meant was, the weapon is not in inventory yet.

 

[Ananda]

Just put the photos from President Secretariat Bureau that already circulating online. What they call mock up is because the ones in display is those with blue circle. Thus not live/active version but more for training version. The live version (yellow circle) usually not going to be use as display.

Interesting they procure Meteor first as BVR missile and not Mica. Either way, if they are already procure traning version, then usually the live version are part of contract. This shown the fourth batches of contract already effective, as this Rafale contract consist of four contract. 3 batches for airframes and 4th is for support and armament.

Today ceremony for official induction of Rafale, second A400M, 4 new Falcon 8X and 2 Thales GCI radar.

Add from Keris FB on GCI Thales GM403.



This is part of 13 Thales GM403 that being work out with PT. LEN as part of license agreement.

 

[Sandhi Yudha]

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Just put the photos from President Secretariat Bureau that already circulating online. What they call mock up is because the ones in display is those with blue circle. Thus not live/active version but more for training version. The live version (yellow circle) usually not going to be use as display.

Interesting they procure Meteor first as BVR missile and not Mica. Either way, if they are already procure traning version, then usually the live version are part of contract. This shown the fourth batches of contract already effective, as this Rafale contract consist of four contract. 3 batches for airframes and 4th is for support and armament.

Today ceremony for official induction of Rafale, second A400M, 4 new Falcon 8X and 2 Thales GCI radar.

Add from Keris FB on GCI Thales GM403.

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This is part of 13 Thales GM403 that being work out with PT. LEN as part of license agreement.

If i'm not wrong, in total 6 Falcon 8X business jets are ordered and delivered, combined with the 12 ordered PC-24 and several 737s in VIP-configuration, Indonesia's VIP-fleet will be one of the largest in the world.

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Some people will be proud of this fact.

 

[Arji]

If i'm not wrong, in total 6 Falcon 8X business jets are ordered and delivered, combined with the 12 ordered PC-24 and several 737s in VIP-configuration, Indonesia's VIP-fleet will be one of the largest in the world.

- YouTube

Some people will be proud of this fact.

The joke is all the elites need vehicle to escape if Indonesia turned authoritarian and ruined the economy again.

 

[Ananda]

i'm not wrong, in total 6 Falcon 8X business jets are ordered and delivered, combined with the 12 ordered PC-24 and several 737s in VIP-configuration, Indonesia's VIP-fleet will be one of the largest in the world.

The argument for those Falcon 8x is to replace the capacity from F-28 and Avro RJ85 that has been phased out but not yet replace.




Falcon 8X interior (Keris FB).

While new 737-800 going to replace older 737 of 400/500 gradually. Rumours say this part of commitment to buy Boeing from Prabowo to Trump. The bulk of course will be from Garuda.

There's rumours in Finance guys circles that more Rafale increasingly going to be taken, with the expense of one or two other types. This as operational and maintenance budget projection being shown to Presidential office, and calculate more Rafale can only happened with the expense of other types. Whether the other types being cut is existing or new procurement, is not clear yet. There're still lobby battle on this.

 

[Arji]

Military fan observer like Keris seems to strongly suggest the planned procurement of new type MRCA code name "SURABAYA" and "JULIETT" a few days ago. Everyone seems to assume the prefix stands for SU-35 and J10 respectively. Dunno how credible this is, but that site is probably one of the best as far as local military fan group goes.

If anything, it shows that the lobby for eastern aircraft is not weak either.

 

[Sandhi Yudha]

The argument for those Falcon 8x is to replace the capacity from F-28 and Avro RJ85 that has been phased out but not yet replace.

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Falcon 8X interior (Keris FB).

While new 737-800 going to replace older 737 of 400/500 gradually. Rumours say this part of commitment to buy Boeing from Prabowo to Trump. The bulk of course will be from Garuda.

There's rumours in Finance guys circles that more Rafale increasingly going to be taken, with the expense of one or two other types. This as operational and maintenance budget projection being shown to Presidential office, and calculate more Rafale can only happened with the expense of other types. Whether the other types being cut is existing or new procurement, is not clear yet. There're still lobby battle on this.

A maximum of 16 passengers fits in a Falcon 8X, and both the BAe 146 and Fokker F28 can hold more than 65 passengers. These aeroplanes are from a complete different class.

Countries like Pakistan, Senegal and South-Korea use the CN235-220 for VIP transport, but of course the same kind of people who decided that Rp1 billion cars are too cheap and inferior for high ranking officials, also demanded unlimited luxury, comfort and prestige for air transport.


And about the amount of different types of jetfighters, there are too many unclear rumours spread around. Let's wait and see, specially if rumours are added with too much fantasy.

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[Ananda]

This video shown more close up take on TNI-AU Rafale, plus got "better" presenter.

Military fan observer like Keris seems to strongly suggest the planned procurement of new type MRCA code name "SURABAYA" and "JULIETT" a few days ago. Everyone seems to assume the prefix stands for SU-35 and J10 respectively. Dunno how credible this is, but that site is probably one of the best as far as local military fan group goes.

If anything, it shows that the lobby for eastern aircraft is not weak either.

Keris FB more reliable then Keris X, the admin in FB seems have more information connection then those in X ones. Still they also (in FB ones) give hints or info base on something that already can be seen on public access.



This eventhough they put in their FB account actually can be source by public. The sites is part of Government procurement information. At this point this MRCA Juliet and Surabaya still in procurement task force stages. Means more likely it is still in marketing Lobby negotiation. If it is already done procurement, they will call it 'operational budget for asset hand over team' like the one for this UAV team (Keris talk this for ANKA).



Thus if the team is for handover, then the asset already been procured. If still in procurement, then it is still in marketing lobby (negotiation stages).

 

[Ananda]

maximum of 16 passengers fits in a Falcon 8X, and both the BAe 146 and Fokker F28 can hold more than 65 passengers. These aeroplanes are from a complete different class.

Yes, however they are from procurement budget perspective are being aimed as F-28 and RJ-85 replacement. Some function of F-28 and RJ-85 being done by 737 Classic (400/500), as they are configured for passanger quantity not long range comfort.

Still those 737 Classic from my understanding is not aim to replace both Focker and BAe slots. However become augmenting them. Now it is being talk those 737 Classic going to be replace by NG and even Max. What will be the time table remain to be seen.

 

[Ananda]

Enlarge the Rafale Banners in the ceremony. Some of the info like this is part of Rafale 4.1 is already been inform by Dasault. Also the Electronic Warfare SPECTRA, RBE2 AESA, and Talios Pod. What TNI-AU comfirming is the weapon package which only two being shoen in here (Hammer and Meteor). However also SCALP Missile, MICA and Exocet AM39.

This is why rumours from begining of his tenure as Jokowi's defense minister, Prabowo shown effort for Indonesia to get closer to Frenchie as suppliers. Seems his effort paid up, and Frenchie basically provide more complete packages then other Western suppliers give to Indonesia so far.

 

[r0m8470]

This looks promising. Normally, ordnance were purchased piece meal, and way later into the type's services. The Sukhois did not get anything other than dumb OFAB bombs until a few years into the service. Even then, they only started with unguided rockets and R73. R77 came in a few years further.

Hopefully, the AF can develop meaningful operational doctrine with these new gears - and take advantage of live fire exercise.

 

[Ananda]

Radar GCI Len kedua resmi mulai perkuat pengawasan udara Indonesia

Radar Ground Control Intercept (GCI) buatan PT Len Industri Bandung, yang merupakan unit kedua dari 13 radar yang disiapkan pemerintah, resmi dioperasikan ...

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PT. LEN confirming in media that the GCI Radar that being shown yesterday is the 2nd GCI unit that they produce with co-op and license from Thales. However what I want to focus in here is one paragraf on the article:

In addition to strengthening the radar system, the procurement of Rafale fighter jets also provides increased capabilities for Len in the field of communication and data link interoperability through the Rafale offset training program.

This is actually what I see as main offset co-op with French suppliers that LEN aim, helping their Link ID data link connect to French assets that being procured. In fact the connectivity of all assets existing or in procurement with Link ID seems now going to be the base line for TNI assets procurement. LEN become the main facilitator for all assets connectivity within their Link ID ecosystem.