The Russian-Ukrainian War Thread

rsemmes

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"... wouldn't be aimed at an official". I strongly disagree with your concept of terrorism. (Hitting power stations is aimed.)

"Is killing serving members of the armed forces of a country which is fighting your country terrorism?" Serving members, active members, members...

No one denies that is a fair target, like a power station.


I find the use of "audacious" disgusting. It seems that some people is quite happy with that use in those circumstances.
 

Feanor

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I was talking about the killing.

On the other hand, someone (Russia, for example) could argue that he is procuring arms for Ukraine, so he is actively involve in the war; I don't think Kirilov was actually fighting. Zaluzhny was certainly involved in the war, is there any statute of limitations?
Zaluzhny is only an example, I find the "audacious" disgusting.
It's a uniformed Russian general killed in a time of war. He's a legitimate military target.

Kirilov was the commander of a branch of the Russian armed forces. Is killing serving members of the armed forces of a country which is invading your country terrorism?
The US killed Iraqi generals during the war in Iraq, and they weren't invading the US. They were still a legitimate target. It doesn't even matter who's at fault in the war, Ukraine hit a Russian commanding officer during a war with Russia. There's nothing particularly questionable about this.
 

rsemmes

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Regarding that French-trained brigade, its AWOL and the change of commander... And those new units Feanor was talking about.
It has been used as a organ donor, not as a bde, not even by btn, just as replacements; no drones, no anti-drones and all thanks to the Ukrainian High Command.

« Qu’est-il arrivé à la 155e… ? Même le fait que les Français aient tenté de spécialiser la brigade ne l’a pas protégée des décisions militaires stupides de nos généraux qui ont démantelé l’unité »
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Le ministère des Armées ajoute que, concernant la demande d’un député de fournir des drones à la 155e brigade, la censure du gouvernement et la démission des ministres ont « suspendu » toutes les sollicitations. Y compris les plus urgentes.
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« la principale cause des défaites de nos troupes dans la direction de Pokrovsk est la gestion incompétente des troupes ». « Pas l’avantage numérique de l’ennemi, pas le manque de soldats que nous avons, mais la gestion et l’organisation des troupes, poursuit-il. La grande majorité des commandants d’unités à Pokrovsk disent la même chose. »
 

KipPotapych

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^ Read a couple of articles about it in some outlet in English and Ukrainian outlets a few days ago. It’s a shame. One of the reasons I highly doubt there is some serious counteroffensive incoming. Maybe some incursion attempt with little likelihood of success (well, considering the Russian past decision making, you cannot discount anything, really).


On the subject of the assassination of Gen. Kirillov and wording in the media, today/yesterday I read various articles using such words as audacious, brave, ingenuity, a blow (to Russia), embarrassment, etc. Sorry, I am not going to provide any citations because it is not exactly relevant. But since it was brought up, not really sure what is audacious, brave, or ingenious about it. This is as raw as it gets, there is nothing special about it. As for the blow and embarrassment… Not really. “Blow” is completely irrelevant since this matters very little, if at all. Embarrassment? Again, not sure what is embarrassing here. This is more like a punch in the nuts. At the same time, however, the opponent (Ukraine) cannot reach above the nuts, so nuts is the logical choice. Overall, way more hype than the event is worth. This sums it up rather well, in my opinion:

Experts and intelligence officials credited Ukrainian counterintelligence for thwarting such plots, but said Russia was also less reliant — intentionally so — on covert operations than Ukraine. Unlike Ukraine, Russia can fire long-range missiles that can hit anywhere, and were likely using their operatives for intelligence gathering and weapons targeting, rather than assassinations, said Ralph Goff, a former senior C.I.A. official, who stills travels frequently to Ukraine.

For the Ukrainians, carrying out assassinations, he said, “is a strategy of necessity because it’s all they got.”



Another question is whether this is productive. In my opinion, it is not and likely the opposite. It’s not like they eliminated a Zhukov or someone like that. These guys are probably a dime a dozen (no disrespect to the departed, especially since I know next to nothing about the man). In other words, it has zero purpose as far as the war effort is concerned. Russia has probably put more generals and other high ranking officials to their own (Russian) jails on corruption charges than Ukrainians have killed since the invasion. Some who seemed and thought of by the their peers and analysts as most capable have also been arrested or sent to Africa. So yes, there is no ingenuity and audacity to these irrelevant events. At least it wasn’t another unsuspected driver on the bridge, another Dugina or what’s his name… Tatarskiy or something like that, and no bystanders or wive, kids, etc were involved.

On this note, I also want to mention the following. I am not sure what to call them, really, but these social media “generals, economists, war strategists, and all other experts” that are completely detached from reality are getting extremely annoying. Moreover, some of the best analysts are being affected. I talked about it several times previously here, but it is getting to the next level now. Mike Kofman recently said that he practically stopped posting on X because of this very reason. The fella from Spain nicknamed Jompy (the counter I am sure most are familiar with) also recently stated that he is quiting “the business” at the end of the year because of this very reason. This French scholar with some excellent analysis and commentary, whose name I cannot recall at the moment for whatever reason, stopped posting because of this same crowd a couple of months ago. Many other individuals I know of have significantly cut down their posting activity or stopped completely in the past few months because of these very imbeciles. Two days ago, the “crew” accused Mark Galeotti (in my opinion, the best western expert on Russia today, hands down, and not many even come close) of working for Russia and Russian oligarchs and whatever other rubbish, where he actually felt the need to speak up and defend himself (crazy, right?). Tatarigami, the fella from Ukraine with mostly great insights, was also (again) accused yesterday (a couple of days ago?) of being either a defeatist at best or a Russian troll at worst. Personally, I am not sure why anyone cares, but it clearly affects people. Today, a fella named Preston Stewart, who actually raised funds for the Ukrainian war effort, made his X account private after making a comment about the means of this Kirollov elimination, that it might have some eye brows raised and be seen in negative light (he isn’t necessarily wrong). What happened after him making that comment was the “crew” with personal attacks of ridiculous level, and so on. I don’t particularly care for Preston singularly, but we are losing some of the best analysts and insights about this war and other topics as well. The crew is greatly enabled by the likes of Gen. Ben Hodges (discussed previously and I think that was the nail in the coffin for Mike Kofman). There are, of course, many others, including some made “famous” by this war guys that graduated with a Bachelor in Psychology, ran a baseball stats website until the invasion, who are probably pretty good at statistics and spreadsheets, often enough have good insights and are quoted by thousands of individuals. They now, however, declare themselves experts in warfare, economics, international relations, you name it, and attack people who have been studying this stuff their entire lives; and they bring the “fandom” along into the echo chamber. I am not going to mention any particular names, but the aforementioned is a real life example. This circus has gotten out of hand and has some real consequences (see fundraisers shutting down their accounts as an obvious example).
 

koxinga

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KPA Weapons Tracker noted at least a battalion (18 to 20 ) Koksan / M1989s moving through Russia.

KPA fighting in Ukraine on large scale certainly was not on my bingo card this year.

 

Feanor

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I'm fairly confident Russia has a maximalist starting position, a compromise target, and a minimum line beyond which they won't agree to any peace. The question is where these lines are.
Putin just stated that Russia is ready to negotiate with Ukraine without preconditions and wants them to be based on the Istanbul Accords with a "consideration of realities on the ground" (i.e. Russia expects to keep territories). Note this runs in principle counter to prior statements that seemed to say that Ukraine needs to evacuate all territories Russian annexed before negotiations could begin but that statement always looked suspicious and likely not an accurate statement of Russia's position.

I wouldn't be surprised if Russia is willing to accept something close to the current line of contact as the basis for a permanent settlement, possibly trading some territory in Kharkov region for some additional ground in the Donbas. And if Russia is really preparing to negotiate, it might explain both why they're not starting the battle for Pokrovsk (so as not to be stuck in the middle of the city when the war ends) and why Russia is so enthusiastically trying to blast their way through Toretsk instead of trying to encircle the city and force a Ukrainian withdrawal.

In other words, it's possible we're about to see an actual attempt to end the war through diplomacy. However it's also possible that Russia expects to get the rest of Donetsk region or even Zaporozhye and Kherson handed over to them as part of a resolution. And I suspect Russia won't accept a ceasefire, only an actual peace treaty with a formal recognition of the territory they've taken. They certainly shouldn't accept a ceasefire if they have any good sense. Conspicuously absent is anything about sanctions.

On a side note Putin also opposed any international peacekeepers without Russian approval, for obvious reasons. And he also mentions that Russia will only negotiate with a legitimate government in Ukraine. This may or may not mean they won't talk to Zelensky. I suspect this is a fall back position to use if negotiations aren't going well.

 
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Fredled

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KipPotapych said:
On the subject of the assassination of Gen. Kirillov
The medias and everyone on the blogosphere and youtubosphere wants to make sensational news, daily and constantly, to get viewers. That's whay they will always inflate the importance of any event. Their job is to make ypou believe that the event they are talking about is extremely important and extraordinary.
Personally I don't pay much attention to this.

Now, was the Kirillov assassination worth it?
If Ukrainians did it, it means that it was worth it in their opinion.
For them, eliminating any member of the Russian military or of the propaganda aparatus is worth it.

There are two scenario:
1/ Kirillov was killed because they had an opportunity to kill him and it worked.

2/ They targeted him for a good reason.
Kirillov was not a half-retired general sitting somewhere in the Siberian far east. According to the description of his job he could be either important or very important. I don't say that he was important, only that he could be important.

Russians said that they caught a suspect who admitted being paid $100 000. This is a big sum in Russia (especialy if in USD).
here, again, two scenario:
1/ This is a story completely made up to reassure Russian civilians and military personel alike, and to show that terrorsists do that for money.
2/ It's true, and it means that Ukrainians were ready to offer a bounty this big for Kirillov.
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Feanor said:
Putin just stated that Russia is ready to negotiate with Ukraine without preconditions and wants them to be based on the Istanbul Accords with a "consideration of realities on the ground" (i.e. Russia expects to keep territories).
It's a fact that there is increasing speculations in the medias about ceasefire talks.
Yet nothing concretely so far from either side.

I don;t have the feeling that Putin is refraining from some action because peace or ceasefire talks would start soon. If he finds himself in the middle of Pokrovsk when peace talks begin, so what? Build a Berlin wall in the middle of the city and case closed.
Maybe, he doesn't try to take Pokrovsk at any cost anymore because he sees that he won't be able to before peace talks begun. But as there is no indication that any peace talks are about to start, it's rather that he sees that he won;t take the town right now in any case. I mean, there is a difference between not trying as much as possible and deciding to put it on hold.

IMO, Zelensky and Putin will express on the medias a willingness to negotiate in order to be nice with Trump and influence his decisions. But this will be facial expressions only, not real intent, let alone facts. War will continue as intensively as possible even as they meet at the negotiation table.

Putin's sayoing that Zelensky is illigitimate is just a tit-for-tat 5response to Zelensky's law to forbid negotiating with Putin. It only underline their unwillingness to talk at the moment.
 

Feanor

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The medias and everyone on the blogosphere and youtubosphere wants to make sensational news, daily and constantly, to get viewers. That's whay they will always inflate the importance of any event. Their job is to make ypou believe that the event they are talking about is extremely important and extraordinary.
Personally I don't pay much attention to this.

Now, was the Kirillov assassination worth it?
If Ukrainians did it, it means that it was worth it in their opinion.
For them, eliminating any member of the Russian military or of the propaganda aparatus is worth it.

There are two scenario:
1/ Kirillov was killed because they had an opportunity to kill him and it worked.

2/ They targeted him for a good reason.
Kirillov was not a half-retired general sitting somewhere in the Siberian far east. According to the description of his job he could be either important or very important. I don't say that he was important, only that he could be important.

Russians said that they caught a suspect who admitted being paid $100 000. This is a big sum in Russia (especialy if in USD).
here, again, two scenario:
1/ This is a story completely made up to reassure Russian civilians and military personel alike, and to show that terrorsists do that for money.
2/ It's true, and it means that Ukrainians were ready to offer a bounty this big for Kirillov.
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It's not that big of a bounty. Look up the cost of a single cruise missile.

It's a fact that there is increasing speculations in the medias about ceasefire talks.
Yet nothing concretely so far from either side.

I don;t have the feeling that Putin is refraining from some action because peace or ceasefire talks would start soon. If he finds himself in the middle of Pokrovsk when peace talks begin, so what? Build a Berlin wall in the middle of the city and case closed.
Maybe, he doesn't try to take Pokrovsk at any cost anymore because he sees that he won't be able to before peace talks begun. But as there is no indication that any peace talks are about to start, it's rather that he sees that he won;t take the town right now in any case. I mean, there is a difference between not trying as much as possible and deciding to put it on hold.
I think it's a combination of several factors. Pokrovsk itself is about the same size as Artemovsk/Bakhmut. But right next to it is Mirnograd with another ~47 000 population. And there is a large number of outlying villages that are de-facto suburbs. I couldn't find a good figure for the metropolitan area, but I suspect the entire thing is a population of somewhere between 120-150 000. And Artemovsk/Bakhmut took months of fighting through. Some might point out that Russia has better use of UAVs and gliding bombs these days, and this is true. But look at Toretsk. It's still a slow fight. Granted the Donetsk area gets more resources but in general I think the fight for Pokrovsk itself could well take anywhere from 4-12 months depending on a variety of factors.

IMO, Zelensky and Putin will express on the medias a willingness to negotiate in order to be nice with Trump and influence his decisions. But this will be facial expressions only, not real intent, let alone facts. War will continue as intensively as possible even as they meet at the negotiation table.
Agreed. It's the only thing that makes sense.

Putin's sayoing that Zelensky is illigitimate is just a tit-for-tat 5response to Zelensky's law to forbid negotiating with Putin. It only underline their unwillingness to talk at the moment.
I think it's less about unwillingness to talk in principle for Russia and more of a response. I also think it's one way for Russia to explain a breakdown in negotiations as "not our fault, he's illegitimate". I would agree that if the sides want to talk, they will step over these objections themselves relatively easily.
 

Fredled

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The oil plant in Rostov was hit by a French SCALP missile.
Xavier Tytelman said:
As far as I know, this is the first time a French missile of this type has been used. We have images that confirm this, and we know one specific type of such missile - SCALP, with a range of 300 km, fired from Ukrainian Su-24 fighters.

At the time, we didn't know exactly what it was, because it's very hard to tell the difference between the British Storm Shadow and the French Scalp

300 kilometers is the maximum distance we can deliver to Ukraine in compliance with international standards. We have carefully studied the map and also checked the images of the wreckage. These are identifiable pieces of debris with stickers that are typical of French equipment
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Russian still active in the Dniepr Delta:
Enemy persists in its efforts to capture Kozatskyi Island

According to Ukrinform, most attacks are in still in Pokrovsk sector
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Zelensky comments on the so called "Istambul Agreement":
Zelemsky said:
In general, I am surprised by his statement that he [Putin] is ready for something, he constantly says that I am illegitimate... The ultimatum contained, and they always talk about it, 'demilitarization' and 'denazification'... The main Nazi on the planet today, Putin, is talking about denazification of Ukrainians... Demilitarization, so that there would be no army in Ukraine, or something like that, I don't remember... they talked about 40-50,000…. He simply offered Ukraine to surrender, freeze the conflict, change the direction of development-neither Europe nor NATO, but the direction to the Russian Federation, so that they could rule our state, deprive us of our independence. And this person says that these are some kind of agreements... He is just an old fantasist. He lives in another world, in his own aquarium

Their 'messengers' in different directions, using different sources, showed us the details of this ultimatum. These messengers are not in Ukraine, they have already fled to Russia or abroad. In any case, Ukraine did not agree to the Russian ultimatum. They tried to take the following steps: somewhere they softened their position on this ultimatum, these were meetings in Belarus and Turkey, and they called these meetings the “Istanbul agreements.” Ukraine did not sign anything, there were no agreements, it was a response to the Russian ultimatum
 

seaspear

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KipPotapych

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Russian missile/drone (often one of a dozen or more) strikes clearly civilian infrastructure: they do that on purpose to terrorize the population and show the people that the war is not only there but also here and these are war crimes and terrorism and so on.

Ukrainian drones (2 out of three or so?) hit clearly civilian infrastructure: this cannot be on purpose because they wouldn’t waste the capability and planning to hit these buildings and hit something valuable instead; it just shows how complex long-range strike planning is and thus the strikes have gotta be accidental.

The first paragraph is the usual media and analysts’ deductions about the Russian strikes (which include falling debris from intercepts or the interceptors themselves). The second is today’s media coverage and analysts’ deductions about the strike on Kazan.

From my post on the previous page:

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By looking at that map, it is not hard to guess the route these drones followed to get all the way to Kazan.
 

Feanor

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There are some interesting developments. Russia's foothold across the Oskol is expanding and Russia now holds most of Rakovo neighborhood in Dvurechnoe. The river frontage is now about double what it was to start with at this spot, and there is a real chance Russia will take the entire village. Meanwhile there are continuous unconfirmed reports, including from Ukrainian sources, that Russia has a foothold across the Dnepr in Kherson city near the Antonov bridge. Note this would a mirror operation to what Ukraine did on the left shore previously. And this might not indicate a general offensive, but there are continuous rumors circulating that Russia intends to cross the river.
 

Feanor

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Update.

Kursk area.

From the east, we have a Russian flag raising in Cherkassakya Konopel'ka, Russian forces have taken it. From the west Russian forces rolled into Kruglen'koe and a little past it but were then pushed back towards the outskirts of Kruglen'koe. The village remains in Russian hands.


A video from the Russian side of Russia striking something in the village of Basovka, Sumy region. This system might a DPRK ATGMs.


Russian wire-guided drones double-tap a Ukrainian M109 hidden in the trees, Kursk region.


Russian drones take out a Stryker in the Kursk border area. The first strike disables the vehicle, the occupants likely bailed out, and the second drone flies into the open back hatch burning it down.


A destroyed Ukrainian vehicle, allegedly an M577, in the Kursk area. Allegedly it hit a mine. Note Ukraine is using these vehicles as APCs not command vehicles.


A destroyed Ukrainian Kozak-7, Kursk area.


A destroyed Ukrainian Bradley in Yunakovka area, Sumy region.


A destroyed Ukrainian T-64BV near Ol'govka, Kursk region.


A damaged Ukrainian M109, allegedly Sumy region.


Russian forces haul away a captured M113 MEDEVAC and FV432 APC.


Lostarmour now tracks over 300 Ukrainian vehicles (some armored some not) lost in and around Kursk region.


Russian FSB mortar team in the Kursk border area. Note the FSB manages all the borderguards troops in Russia.


Russia's BARS-22 in the Kursk area with a BMP-2M. Note this BMP-2M didn't get the extra armor kit, suggesting it was a fairly early-in-the-war delivery. BARS elements initially got no armored vehicles but by mid-22 various volunteer formations, and BARS units, were getting random batches of armored vehicles. The Cossack volunteer brigade ended up with at least a tank company of T-62Ms, and many BMP-2Ms.


Ukrainian Marder in Kursk region with a drone cage.


Old footage of a Ukrainian Osa FrankenSAM in Kursk area.


Allegedly a North Korean POW in Ukrainian hands.


Ukraine hit the towns of Ryl'sk and L'gov with HIMARS strikes, hitting what appears to be civilian structures. 4 civilian dead reported in L'gov and 6 in Ryl'sk.


Kharkov area.

Russian FPV drones hit 3 Strykers in the border area.


Ukrainian unmanned ground platforms in service near Liptsi.


Kupyansk area.

Russian forces here have had unsual success across the Oskol. Russia's foothold is now quite wide, expanding considerable southward, and also northward into Dvurechnoe where Russian forces have reached the center of the village. It's looking like this might be the beginning of a major push in the area. Of course the Oskol is no Dnepr, and Russian forces are widening their positions but not pushing particularly deep.


Destroyed vehicles in the Kupyansk area. We have an M113, a BTR-4 MEDEVAC, and a very rare DT-30, the last is almost certainly Russian, probably from the 200th Arctic MRBde. The other vehicles are of course Ukrainian.


Oskol front.

Russian forces are advancing east of Terny.


Russian flag raising in Lozovaya. In the Peschanoe salient area Russian forces have taken Lozovaya, most of Zagryzovo, and have taken a number of positions in the fields west of Vishnevo. The clear direction of the attacks here are towards Borovoe.


Russian FPV drone strike on a Ukrainian MBT, allegedly a T-72M1, west of Svatovo.


Seversk salient.

Russian strikes inside Belgorovka confirm Ukrainian forces are likely still there.


Ukrainian thermite drone burning out a Russian dugout, in the Seversk salient.


Allegedly a Ukrainian M109 destroyed near Seversk by a Lancet strike.


Chasov Yar.


Ukrainian counter-attacks have completely pushed Russia out of the factory complex. Meanwhile Russian forces have advanced westward in the neighborhoods north of the factory and have gained some ground in the neighborhood east of the center, on the canal. North of the town, east of the canal, the village of Grigorievka is now mostly in Russian hands.


Russian soldier downs allegedly an FPV drone with small arms fire. While I would concede that skill plays a part, I think there's quite a bit of luck involved here too. We've seen many videos where attempts like this result in the exact opposite outcome.


Toretsk.

Russian forces attempted to advance up the western flank through Sherbinovka again but failed to consolidate most of the gains. Inside the town Russian forces continue to expand their area of control in all directions. The fate of the second refuse mound remains unclear.


A series of Russian FPV drone strikes near Toretsk, targeting infantry and a civilian car on the road, and some Kozak armored cars.. Note both sides use civilian cars for logistics making it hard to tell what's getting hit.


A Ukrainian Bradley hit a land mine and gets finished off, catching fire, near Toretsk.

 

Feanor

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Pokrovsk.

East of Pokrovsk Russian forces have inched forward again near Vozdvizhenka, taking some fields, and approaching the first few houses of the village. I think one indication we will have of Russian efforts on Pokrovsk will be a reactivation of this area. They're very close to a major highway here. South of Pokrovsk Russian forces have taken Novoelizavetovka, Novoolenovka, Ukrainka, and the rest of Dachenskoe. West of Pokrovsk Russian forces have entered Peschanoe and Volkovo. They have also reached the outskirts of Solenoe and Novovasil'evka.


Russian vehicles that entered Novoelizavetovka carried very robust drone-cages that appeared to survive multiple FPV drone strikes.


Russian flag raising in Novoolenovka, south of Pokrovsk.


Russian Grad fires near Pokrovsk. Grad use has gotten significantly less common this war.


Russia hits a Ukrainian Ural inside Pokrovsk.


Two Roshel Senator armored cars getting hit.


Ukrainian Leo-2A4s getting hit by Russian drones near Pokrovsk.


Russian Molniya drone strikes near Pokrovsk.


Russian FPV drones hit a Ukrainian BMP-2 near Pokrovsk.


We have some strange footage from recent Russian attacks. It appears some Russian units were either moving around near the front line, or even delivering assault teams, using un-armored civilian vehicles and army trucks. This is obvioulsy a very bad idea, and it didn't go well here. There's a question about whether these were used for an assault as some Ukrainian sources have claimed. Normally Russian assault elements are very small, squad sized or less is normal. Russian composite assault "platoons" are 12 dismounts. Yet here we have at least 6 vehicles. Subtract the drivers, and it's still enough to deliver 20 dismounts. On the other hand we've seen larger assaults in some cases, though usually with a mech company and MBT supports.

Is Russia finally out of armored vehicles? No. There are still quite a few left in storage bases and there's no indication Russia has lost the ability to produce BTRs or BMPs. But it's one thing to have hulls in storage and another to have working vehicles. It's possible the bottle-neck is once again the rate of work of the armored repair plants. Another suggestion that's been floating around various forums is that Russian command has ordered troops to try and reduce losses of armored vehicles and this is one of the resulting attempts. This could also be a supply column that took a wrong turn. Adding to the confusion is the fact that the particularly silly looking column of civilian cars was moving towards the village of Ukrainka which has now fallen to Russian forces... somehow. And this is the Donetsk area, which gets more resources then other areas. If they're out here, shouldn't they be out everywhere else? Lastly just north of there in Novoelizavetovka Russian assault elements were definitely riding armored vehicles when they took the village.

So what does this mean? I don't know. Best case scenario (for Russia), either local idiocy in an attempt to reduce losses of armored vehicles or a supply column took a wrong turn. Worst case scenario Russian front line units are so short on armored transports that this is a new reality even for offensive actions on the primary axis. If the former is true, this should remain an isolated incident. If the latter is true, we should see many more such examples over various sections of the front line. Adding to the confusion is the appearance of photos of a single abandoned and knocked out Ural covered in drone netting. It was potentially being used in the same manner but that's not clear and I don't have the video that this still is from. If anyone finds it, please do share. For completion's sake, at the bottom is a link to photos of a similar looking Ural truck, not destroyed. Up-armoring logistics vehicles for drone protection is common practice, so the last image doesn't necessarily prove anything, but it's consistent with the above.


Russian forces haul away two more knocked out Kirpi MRAPs and have captured an M113 MEDEVAC.


A destroyed Leo-1A5 near Shevchenko, south of Pokrovsk.


Ukraine's 155th Mech has shown up near Pokrovsk. Earlier reporting said the unit broke up into btlns and was sent to different sections of the front piecemeal.


Russian Giatsint-S in the Pokrovsk area.

 

Feanor

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Kurakhovo area.

Russian forces are inside the administrative buildings of the Kurakhovo powerplant. The residential part of town is fully in Russian hands with fighting going on around the garages, and the powerplant. South of Kurakhovo Russian forces have taken a series of positions along the river including Uspenovka, and in the fields, and south of Razliv. North of the town Russian forces have entered Shevchenko and taken most ofit (a very unhelpful name as there are 3 such villages in the western side of Donetsk region), and have taken some more fields. Russian forces are now well clear of the reservoir. Around Zarya Russian forces have taken ground westward, south-westward, and north-westward.


An interesting video of a Russian quadcopter with thermals dropping munitions on Ukrainian infantry. It's described as a Ukrainian counter-attack that delivered troops using a pickup and a BMP (a BMP-2 in the video). We can see the Ukrainian infantry dismount, it looks like the pickup got hit, and the BMP delivers some fire support and then pulls away. The quadcopter hunts Ukrainian dismounts.


Russian flag raising in the multi-story buildings of Kurakhovo. Note the town appears to be mostly intact. We have battle damage but not the kind of destruction we see in Toretsk.


Ukrainian AMX-10RCs have shown up near the front line again for the first time in a while. One got hit near Kurakhovo. It's possible this is a piece of the new 155th Mech. This is near the Sukhie Yaly river.


Russian strike on a Ukrainian M113 near Dachnoe, west of Kurakhovo. The vehicle is reportedly immobilized by mines before getting hit by drones.


A burned out VAB, Ukrainian, in the Kurakhovo area.


Russian strike on a bridge between Andreevka and Konstantinopol'.


Velikaya Novoselka.


Russian forces have cut the road westward out of Velikaya Novoselka. Eveything south of Neskuchnoe in the Mokrie Yaly river valley is under Russian control, including Storozhevoe. This marks the complete reversal of the last Ukrainian gains from the summer offensive. Noviy Komar is firmly in Russian hands.


Russian strikes on a bridge around Velikaya Novoselka.


Russian courier UGVs continue to be active around Velikaya Novoselka.


Russian drone strike on a Ukrainian elevated camera near Velikaya Novoselka. Both sides use cameras in forward locations to avoid having to permanently put personnel somewhere.


Zaporozhye.

Russian forces continue to bite off pieces north of Rabotino. With the collapse of Ukraine's salient Russian advances here have slowed. Meanwhile in Kamenskoe Ukrainian forces counter-attacked, pushing Russia back.


Russian quadcopter munition drops on allegedly Ukrainian positions. Note we don't see any Ukrainian personnel on the ground.


A look at Russia's 1429th repair btln. Here they're working on a D-30.


Dnepr front.

There are unconfirmed reports of Russian troops on the right shore of the Dnepr grabbing a foothold near the ruins of the Antonov bridge.


Russia struck the cancer ward in a Kherson hospital. Note the city is empty, and allegedly the building was a Ukrainian staging area.


Russia hits a vehicle column in Kherson region, allegedly Ukrainian HIMARS. The column is moving when the initial impacts land but then stops. Nonetheless I'm not convinced all the vehicles are destroyed.


A now rare Russian Tunguska-M operating in Kherson region.


Allegedly Russian drone-munition drops on Ukrainian personnel trying to evacuate a wounded.


Allegedly Ukraine hit the hospital in Oleshki, killing a doctor. The strike was by an FPV drone, and previously the car belonging to the doctor was blown up. It seems to be part of a campaign by Ukraine to target personnel in occupied areas that are cooperating with Russia.

 

Feanor

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Black Sea/Crimea.

Large explosions were reported near Sevastopol'. Details are lacking and it came after the below image, meaning it's probably not related.


A Russian Mi-8 was hit by an R-73 launched from a Ukrainian unmanned boat. Russian source report it was damaged and returned to base, but confirmation is lacking.


A destroyed unmanned Ukrainian boat near the Crimean shore.


Strikes.

Near Kiev Russia struck storage near Borispol' and the Luch design bureau in Kiev, and some Russian inbounds fell on Kiev, unclear if targetted or downed.


Russian strike hits the industrial part of Kramatorsk, allegedly targetting Ukrainian missile launchers (HIMARS?). Note we don't have any good information on a Ukrainian strike out of that area landing, but there are reports of one being launched and of Russian air defenses potentially intercepting some inbounds.


Russian strikes hitting Dnepropetrovsk. Note these two links are for two different dates.


Russian strikes hit the Slavyansk powerplant.


Russian strikes landing in Kharkov, targets unclear. Reportedly Iskanders were used.


Russian strikes landing in Krivoy Rog. Note these two links are for two different dates.


Russian cruise missiles apparently entered Moldavia during recent strikes on Ukraine.


In Kazan' Ukraine apparently hit a couple of residential buildings. One UAV was downed and fell on it, the other may have been spoofed by EW.


Ukraine hit a Russian facility that houses long range drones in Orlov region. Note the complex is reportedly hardened and it's hard to asses the damage.


Ukraine hit a fuel storage facility in Orlov region. Ka-52s were involved in the intercept efforts.


Ukraine hit a Russian Ministry of Interior academy in Nizhniy Novgorod.


Ukraine struck Rostov region.


Ukraine hit a fuel base in Novo-Shahtinsk, Rostov region.


Ukraine drones attacked Millerovo and Morozovsk airfields. Results are unclear.


Ukraine hit the Kombinat Kamenskiy factory in Rostov region.


Russian intercepts of Ukrainian UAVs, Rostov area.


Unsuccessful Ukrainian missile strikes are being reported in Tokmak and Berdyansk.


A blog I haven't seen until recently did an interesting analysis of the recent Oreshnik strike on Yuzhmash using satellite images they purchased. They did a whole analysis of how allegedly impressive the damage is, only to be immediately proven wrong. The images they received showed no new damage from the Oreshnik strike at all. Which creates quite the mystery. One possibility is that commercial services are editing the images they release. I don't think there are any operators of commercial satellites that don't have some official or unofficial link to a national government. Google's SkyBox (for example) is buried under piles of government regulation. So it's not impossible that they are. The other options are that the strike hit the target and produced no visible damage, a most unlikely scenario, or that the strike missed the majority of the plant entirely. Neither of these options look particularly likely, bringing us back to the "they edited the images". However... it's not clear. Really we've actually learned nothing, and not much of value is revealed here, but I didn't want to leave this information out incase anyone came across claims based on it. Meanwhile the new missile system remains a mystery.

Oh and the blog should be regarded and fairly pro-Russian. The other posts on it mainly talk about how western weapons have been a letdown in Ukraine's war effort. Which is true in some sense, certain parts of the internet certainly thought they were wonder-weapons and were subsequently let down, but I don't think the people making decisions and helping Ukraine plan their war effort actually believed that sort of nonsense.

 

Feanor

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Other interesting bits.

A destroyed allegedly Ukrainian PETRA Hunter APC B6, we haven't seen this vehicle in Ukraine before.


Russian sources report a Russian Ka-52 lost to friendly fire. Details are lacking.


A Russian BMP-2 doing indirect-fire. The effectiveness of this is questionable.


Some footage of Russian Gibka-S SAMs in the war zone.


A pair of Russian ersatz systems, a depth-charge launcher on a T-80 chassis, and an MT-12 on an MT-LB.


Russian erzats anti-drone rigs on a stripped down SUV chassis being used to protect a Buk btln.


Russian soldiers pose with what is described as an AGS-17 with a suppressor. I don't know if that's accurate, but it's what it looks like. Maybe someone can weigh in on the practicality of a suppressor for automatic grenade launchers.


Upgraded Krasnopol' shells and new longer ranged 122mm shells continue to be sighted in the war zone.


Ukraine has begun constructing major fortifications in Dnepropetrovsk region. Russian forces are currently less than 10 kms from the administrative border.


An interesting look at Ukrainian artillery, we have a 2S22 using an under-ground position from the 45th Arty Bde and a Dita howitzer used by Azov.


Ukraine's 121st TerDefBde with a Grad-V, a smaller version on an air-droppable GAZ-66.


Some photos from Ukraine's 14th Mech vehicle maintenance facility. They're working on a T-64BV, a BMP-1, and some trucks.


Some reports indicate that Ukraine's new 155th Mech received Leo-2A4s. Previously they had AMX-10RCs, and there's no reason they can't have both, of course.


Ukraine's 17th Tanks installing a drone cage on a T-64BV. One advantage of Ukraine's cages is that they're easier to mount and are foldable.


Ukrainian forces have allegedly turned a captured T-72B3 into an armored evacuator. They might not have enough guns.


An interesting Ukrainian Marder with anti-drone spikes. Note they're not designed to stop something hitting the armor they're attached to. They're meant to knock down a drone aiming for the turret but passing over the armor.


Reportedly Ukraine's 5th Tanks has been converted into a heavy mechanized brigade, with two tanks and two mechanized btlns.


Another train of DPRK forces has been spotted this one with a new mystery vehicle, possibly an IRBM.


Russia and Ukraine exchange 150 for 150 POWs and 42 Russian KIA bodies for 503 Ukrainian bodies. Note some of this disparity comes from the fact that Russia is advancing and Ukrainian forces fighting in semi-encirclement often can't evacuate wounded, nevermind KIAs.


Footage from inside Ugledar. It's an interesting contrast with the recent footage of Kurakhovo.


Reportedly Ukraine's crew for the ex-Netherlands minetrawler has completed training. 3 such trawlers are planned for handover.


It appears Portuguese Ka-32s have made it to Ukraine and at least one is in flying condition.


Poland reportedly handed over two Mi-8Ts and one Bell 412 to Ukraine.


Spanish Leo-2A4s getting ready to ship to Ukraine.


Reportedly Germany has funded another 20 Marders for Ukraine. Deliveries are expected in the first half of 2025.

 

seaspear

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It can be difficult assessing material losses in this war if we only receive those claimed from one side of course, this individual is able to provide losses for both sides ,
 
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