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Hawkeye69
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Plenty of spare parts for what we have, I believe a good stock of retired Sikorsky Seahawk B models stored there and some preserved for possible foreign military sales.Let's see... Hmm...
Doh!
New UK version of the Absalon class? Steller Systems unveil ‘Fearless’ Multi Role Support Ship concept | Navy Lookout
This is actually more the type of could see NZ acquiring for any envisaged 3rd (or 4th) frigate if they were serious in this area vs a straight frigate. More options and easier sell and more of a hybrid compromise between any 3rd frigate and 2nd sealift type currently being suggested. So 2 Iver types and 1 absalon type is still a vast improvement on just the 2 frigates and no 2nd sealift ship regardless so bit of a win either way.
Redlands18
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A bit bigger though at 170m and 15,000t.
Just a tad bigger, I know.
John Fedup
The Bunker Group
Interesting vessel but as the article states, a lot
more design work is required for this concept. Must admit, there is lots to like…except for maybe the actual cost.
more design work is required for this concept. Must admit, there is lots to like…except for maybe the actual cost.
Nighthawk.NZ
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Has no well dock and that is one thing we need and RNZN want... and was stated in the last DCP
Yes the well deck is a must have at this time but could change. and the system that is used is significantly better than that used on Canterbury. The extra combat capability and possibilities is attractive.
Yes, but would look very impressive tying up in Australian port
Here is what could be interrupted as a silly question.
If the RAN buy their tier 2 frigate and select the TKMS MEKO 200 and considering the current Government in NZ policy of trying to buy the same as Australia does this the RNZN will end up with another Australian built frigate the MEKO 200.
This post was added by the consumption of a 700mil bottle of Merlot
If the RAN buy their tier 2 frigate and select the TKMS MEKO 200 and considering the current Government in NZ policy of trying to buy the same as Australia does this the RNZN will end up with another Australian built frigate the MEKO 200.
This post was added by the consumption of a 700mil bottle of Merlot
We could still get a couple of LHDs with a well deck if required. This just adds on to the fire power and transport requirements, along with replenishment of supplies if needed. Add it as a Escort for the LHDs if required.
Nighthawk.NZ
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Naval News on Youtube a bit more on the Fearless MRSS
recce.k1
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Well you got to hand it to the Japanese for maximising opportunities that present themselves! They (presumably) arranged for the NZ PM to announce closer Japan-NZ defence arrangements on the JS Kumano, the Mogami class Frigate type which is of interest by the Australian Govt and potentially NZ.
www.1news.co.nz
I'm also slightly surprised the likes of the UK Govt hasn't already invited the NZ Govt/PM over for a visit and to also shore up possible defence co-operation and major acquisition opportunities. Not only do they have a couple of applicable Frigate options I would also suggest the likes of the proposed Multi-Role Support Ship (with a well-dock such as the BMT Ellida) could be a possible replacement option for sealift vessel HMNZS Canterbury?
Presumably such a visit will now have to wait until after the UK general election (if not much later on, to allow a new(?) UK Govt settle in? If so perhaps the likes of Japan and South Korea may ramp up efforts!
Particularly with the NZ Defence Capability Plan still being worked on (now with a Sept/Oct release date).
NZ sending ships, planes to help monitor North Korea
Prime Minister Christopher Luxon said New Zealand would contribute ships for the first time to help monitor any breaches of UN sanctions by the country.
I'm also slightly surprised the likes of the UK Govt hasn't already invited the NZ Govt/PM over for a visit and to also shore up possible defence co-operation and major acquisition opportunities. Not only do they have a couple of applicable Frigate options I would also suggest the likes of the proposed Multi-Role Support Ship (with a well-dock such as the BMT Ellida) could be a possible replacement option for sealift vessel HMNZS Canterbury?
Presumably such a visit will now have to wait until after the UK general election (if not much later on, to allow a new(?) UK Govt settle in? If so perhaps the likes of Japan and South Korea may ramp up efforts!
Particularly with the NZ Defence Capability Plan still being worked on (now with a Sept/Oct release date).
John Fedup
The Bunker Group
The UK, both government and industry, have lots on their plates. Also, they likely feel Asian competitors, especially Japan, are favoured.Well you got to hand it to the Japanese for maximising opportunities that present themselves! They (presumably) arranged for the NZ PM to announce closer Japan-NZ defence arrangements on the JS Kumano, the Mogami class Frigate type which is of interest by the Australian Govt and potentially NZ.
NZ sending ships, planes to help monitor North Korea
Prime Minister Christopher Luxon said New Zealand would contribute ships for the first time to help monitor any breaches of UN sanctions by the country.
I'm also slightly surprised the likes of the UK Govt hasn't already invited the NZ Govt/PM over for a visit and to also shore up possible defence co-operation and major acquisition opportunities. Not only do they have a couple of applicable Frigate options I would also suggest the likes of the proposed Multi-Role Support Ship (with a well-dock such as the BMT Ellida) could be a possible replacement option for sealift vessel HMNZS Canterbury?
Presumably such a visit will now have to wait until after the UK general election (if not much later on, to allow a new(?) UK Govt settle in? If so perhaps the likes of Japan and South Korea may ramp up efforts!
Particularly with the NZ Defence Capability Plan still being worked on (now with a Sept/Oct release date).
John Fedup
The Bunker Group
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Nice product placement, well done Japan and good to see them pushing defence exports with purpose finally. Competition only breeds excellence, development and more importantly for us, cost benefits and I have no doubt a country like Japan doesn't skimp on quality.Well you got to hand it to the Japanese for maximising opportunities that present themselves! They (presumably) arranged for the NZ PM to announce closer Japan-NZ defence arrangements on the JS Kumano, the Mogami class Frigate type which is of interest by the Australian Govt and potentially NZ.
NZ sending ships, planes to help monitor North Korea
Prime Minister Christopher Luxon said New Zealand would contribute ships for the first time to help monitor any breaches of UN sanctions by the country.
If they can create the Toyota Corolla of frigates, then NZ and Australia would no doubt be buying from Japan. Or even at a Lexus level.