I think after the Sea1000 incident things will be very, very tight. There is a lot at stake here.
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My initial thoughts were that the Government was attempting to neutralise Rex Patrick's call to mandate the use of ASC and Austral in the build.Nobody, except perhaps the decision makers, really knows when the winner will be announced. There is no real need to delay the decision until the end of July unless of course, it is a technical issue. I suspect that the other forum might be thinking that the decision will be put off until after the by-elections but there is no reason to do that. It isn't like a federal election where a government is in caretaker mode. If anything the government would like to time that announcement so that they will gain maximum benefit at those polls. I would tip that will be either the end of this month or early July.
As the Frigates are to be built in SA, and the incumbent there is ASC, I would be astonished if they're not at least partly involved. As for Austal (not Austral) Rex has no chance unless they can somehow tow the lot across the Great Australian BightMy initial thoughts were that the Government was attempting to neutralise Rex Patrick's call to mandate the use of ASC and Austral in the build.
The use of the word "mandate" is a strong indicator that he wants more than part involvement. We'll have to wait to see if this has legs or a decision is pending before end of June.As the Frigates are to be built in SA, and the incumbent there is ASC, I would be astonished if they're not at least partly involved. As for Austal (not Austral) Rex has no chance unless they can somehow tow the lot across the Great Australian Bight
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Perhaps more appropriate in the Canadian thread?Now that the Canadian government has entered the decision phase for bids for the right to build 15 Canadian Surface Combatant (CSC) ships, it is time to give an opinion as to which of the three bids entered will be the best fit for Canada’s future naval fleet.
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Perhaps more appropriate in the Canadian thread?
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Are you talking about RAN O Boats? Their systems are largely 50s/60s vintage, they were worked hard for many years, and the remaining ones are museums, razor blades or rusting away. They would be outclassed in the modern day, and their reactivation would be nearly impossible.Speaking of the Oberon class, I was wondering if they might be in better shape than others their age, assuming decent maintenance. I ask, because the submarine fleet has never been fully crewed, so perhaps some subs have been used less, than had they been fully deployed.
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Argh.... I meant Collins class!!!Are you talking about RAN O Boats? Their systems are largely 50s/60s vintage, they were worked hard for many years, and the remaining ones are museums, razor blades or rusting away. They would be outclassed in the modern day, and their reactivation would be nearly impossible.
SEA1000 is not a conventional version of the Barracuda Class SSN.
Barracuda is the reference design providing a base for a new conventional boat, it's no longer refered to as the "Shortfin Barracuda"
The following link provides some insight into the design process and should probably fit better into the RAN thread but seeing you made the statement, here it is.
Defence special report October 2017 — Sea1000
My impression has been that due to Australian requirements, the only way an existing design would have worked was if it was either an evolved version of the Collins-class SSG, or a version of the Japanese Soryu-class, as these were the only two diesel-electric boats with performance parameters close enough to what was needed.Migrated here as its RAN boats not Canadian.
So its basically back to the future, when Gillard pulled the funding for a clean sheet design.
They have just set the overall dimensions nothing else, everything a free for all?
Thought that is why we went with a known boat as we don't have time to do it from a clean sheet.
My apologies, missed that! I. Surprised that ADM didn't reference Thales, their article was verbatim.This was already posted above. The same sonar on the UK Astutes, an impressive investment in the platform to keep them viable until the Shortfins become available.