To use a cliche, Trumps means no ''boots on the ground''. No regular units engaged in large scale ops to undertake regime change or to eradicate IS. Deploying units there is a political time bomb given that Assad's troops will be fighting the same enemy as U.S. troops; not to mention that there is no clear answer as to what will be gained by deploying ''boots on the ground''.
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gazzzwp
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Different to Russia's narrative where they claim that just over half made it to the airfield. It really is time Russia stopped this policy of spreading deception at any opportunity. It happened over flight MH17, and it is happening again over the gas attack. Spread so much confusion and plant so many conspiracy theories that the whole thing becomes a fiasco.
Gas in the hands of the rebels was and never will be a credible diversion claim for Assad or Putin. Lets see how the meeting between Tillerson and Lavrov pans out today.
What counts as "regular units"? US HIMARS have been deployed to Syria just recently.
The size of the US base in Syrian Kurdistan is starting to look quite serious.
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By that definition the artillery unit in question qualifies.
supercomrade
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Like I said, I think what Trump meant was not a large scale desert storm or invasion or Iraq type operation
John Fedup
The Bunker Group
Here's a link suggesting Australia should abandon its fight against ISIS and remain focused in Asia. The article suggests this would have no effect on US relations just like Canada's decision. However this is not correct. Only our CF-18s were withdrawn, tankers and P-3s remained and special forces continue to help the Kurds.
Australia Shouldn't Be Fighting ISIS | The National Interest
Australia Shouldn't Be Fighting ISIS | The National Interest
Another mistake
Britain wasn't an empire until probably the 18th Century. With two mistakes like that, one wonders what other errors are in the article.
supercomrade
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I don't know if this is the right section but as many might have heard by now:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KihgxvJcwkg
This is the largest non nuclear bomb ever dropped by US in combat.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...-bomb-on-islamic-state-forces-in-afghanistan/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KihgxvJcwkg
This is the largest non nuclear bomb ever dropped by US in combat.
Soooo is this also a message to North Korea?
It is a message to the Taliban and the IS. The americans are getting desperate, the situation in Afghanistan is getting worse each year, the government is losing its grip and spring is the Taliban fighting season...
This now created a precedent, using WMD against terrorists is OK if no innocents were harmed, I guess.
This now created a precedent, using WMD against terrorists is OK if no innocents were harmed, I guess.
Since when has MOAB been a WMD its a conventional bomb period.
A very important clarification, thank you. Then Russia can start using these conventional weapons in Syria against ISIS and hardcore islamist groups, too.
I heard theirs is bigger...
John Fedup
The Bunker Group
Apparently it is, some kind of big fuel air explosive ( I think).
Blue Jay
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GBU-43/B / "Mother Of All Bombs" / Massive Ordnance Air Blast Bomb
It is not a FAE. It uses H6 explosive, which is used for general purpose bombs. It is also not a penetrator (in case anyone was wondering) but rather accomplishes everything via blast effect.
supercomrade
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Well Russia..........you claim that your FOAB is bigger than the American MOAB....your move.......
You guys think Putin has enough ego to do it? I am sure they can find an ISIS tunnel as well to use it on
You guys think Putin has enough ego to do it? I am sure they can find an ISIS tunnel as well to use it on
John was replying to me. So he was referring to the russian big stick.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Father_of_All_Bombs
I think Putin does not need to use such a weapon to send a message, strike fear or get respect. He has achieved all these through other actions.
Pentagon has released a video.
No sense of scale, but there you have it.
Here https://youtu.be/mVihLVKkLyY
No sense of scale, but there you have it.
Here https://youtu.be/mVihLVKkLyY
gazzzwp
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Kudos can easily be lost. That happened with the recent gas attack and the subsequent unconvincing cover up. It has been a massive set back for the Russia, Syrian and Iran axis let that be clear.
Regardless of what Russia says openly they will be thinking through their own strategy more carefully now and 'keeping Assad in at night' for fear of provoking another US response.
From that point of view the US attack on the airbase served it's purpose.
Are you referring to this purely staged provocation executed by al-nusra and ordered by .. we all suspect who?
You cannot be serious, why would they fear another US response? Especially when last time US wasted 60 tomahawk for 6 derelict aeroplane unable to fly even when they had to fly only to escape.
I relay curios to learn, what was it's purpose on the first place? Because at the moment it looks absolutely pointless. May be, after all, Tramp seek to impress comrade Ce? He definitely fail to impress Russians.
gazzzwp
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So just at the precise moment the Syrian's bomb a rebel position, a 'staged' chemical attack occurs? Sorry that is utterly non-credible. The idea that the rebels even had Sarin gas is also non-credible. Instead of trying to rally the international community to conduct an investigation then why does Russia not undertake it alone? That is of course assuming that they are convinced that they have a real case.
If the US or for that matter a NATO operation goes wrong, we tend to know about it because we have free press and to a large extent an openness. A good example was the recent Trident missile fired by a UK sub that failed. We knew about it. If only 6 planes were destroyed we would know about it. Also the Russians would not have been so anxious if the impact had been that insignificant. So again I disagree with your bias.
Then why have the Russians complained so vehemently? Think about it. The purpose was to make a point about war crimes. That point has been made.