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John Fedup

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There seems to be conflicting stories about this last whitetail C-17. Most stories report the last C-17 was being outfitted in Texas for Qatar to bring their fleet to 5 jets. Then there is the Dec 2016 story saying India will get the last jet bringing their fleet to 11 jets. I guess spotters need to go to both locations for confirmation.:D

The link for India's claimed acquisition is below.

IAF to buy last US C-17 aircraft left : Mail Today, News - India Today
 

t68

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There seems to be conflicting stories about this last whitetail C-17. Most stories report the last C-17 was being outfitted in Texas for Qatar to bring their fleet to 5 jets. Then there is the Dec 2016 story saying India will get the last jet bringing their fleet to 11 jets. I guess spotters need to go to both locations for confirmation.:D

The link for India's claimed acquisition is below.

IAF to buy last US C-17 aircraft left : Mail Today, News - India Today
I wish the RAAF picked it up larger pool to spread hours over.
 

t68

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How has faults with A400 M affected operations i wonder with RAF or other operators? Is it such a big deal still to affect a sale to Nz, or has the stuation improved somewhat?
Well that all depends on which role you buy the A400 to do tactical or Stratigic, whilst there are still some concerns I guess it would be usefull in the stratigic role now.

Also now that Germany has put forward a possible lease to form a multi-national wing, it might be an opportunity for NZ to do the same lease 2x and get some real world experance on it.

RAF have only just started on expanding the capability into tactical roles, if the RNZAF C130H last as expected till the mid 2020 it could in theory buy a bit more time and analysis on the final capabilty sort by NZ if it meets the needs of tactical as well if not limit to the stratgic role and look at other options.
 

John Fedup

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How has faults with A400 M affected operations i wonder with RAF or other operators? Is it such a big deal still to affect a sale to Nz, or has the stuation improved somewhat?
See the A400M thread regarding the latest news regarding the engine fix. Also on this thread is Airbus's concerns WRT penalties. IMHO, begging the USAF for a couple of their jets would be less risky and other better capability. Might even keep the "Donald" happy for awhile.:D
 

t68

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What was the reason Canada didnt select A400 M then? Given C17 isnt in production anymore and i seriously doubt Usa will sell some of thier reserves given how stretched they are with all the conflicts they are in.
1st A400M (2007)was only being built for test and evaluation from Airbus, RCAF stratgic loft program had its genisis in 2002 A400M was only a paper airplane then compared to C17, and 1st C17 in RCAF colours was 2007.

Like Australia CanGov were using third party transport to move large stores and items around and were at them whim of the carrier for time tables of movement.
 

John Fedup

The Bunker Group
Canada's early interest in the A400M pretty much ended when PWC was rejected for the engine program. As per t68's post we were in need of immediate new transport for strategic lift and the C- 17 was available, the A400M wasn't.
 

ngatimozart

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Future RNZAF

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ngatimozart

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Thanks. Glad you liked it. It's 1st April and thought time for some fun and see who bit. :rotfl If the X-wing wasn't included people might've taken it too seriously :D I've been teaching myself how to do repaints in the flight simulator FSX, so that's how I managed to do the graphics.
 

Cadredave

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Thanks. Glad you liked it. It's 1st April and thought time for some fun and see who bit. :rotfl If the X-wing wasn't included people might've taken it too seriously :D I've been teaching myself how to do repaints in the flight simulator FSX, so that's how I managed to do the graphics.
TBH that X-wing looks good with a kiwi on its side, and so do the rest of them.:D
 

RegR

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I wonder if this more on the amount of use the helicopters are getting has more to do with it than the brand itself.

Which wouldnt be surprising at all to me as we have so few of them, like the hercs in that respect.
So how much are they getting used? Are you suggesting we now overuse them because we have less physical numbers? We had the hueys for decades but they did'nt fail due to "use".
 
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