Which Aircraft Should PAF opt for? [Recent F-16 deal news, etc]

Which Aircraft Should PAF opt for?


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Oqaab

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Re: Which Aircraft Should PAF opt for ????

Black Mamba said:
ya but what kind of politics will v b having with the south africans or the italians?
they have a couple of capable helis don't they?
Italy and South Africa might not sell choppers to Pakistan coz they have to arm their forces first. France/Germany may sell us Tiger attack choppers.
 

Londo Molari

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Re: Which Aircraft Should PAF opt for ????

Rafale.

Not only is it the most capable choice, its also the only one not being politically blocked. Its the only one ACTUALLY available!

Costs a lot, but worthy investment.
 

corsair7772

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Verified Defense Pro
hmmmmm
Y buy the rafale when the J-10 is comin online soon enuff... but i guess a J-10 and rafale combination wudnt be 2 bad...if we can afford it
 

Londo Molari

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Re: Which Aircraft Should PAF opt for ????

Rafale is superior to J-10.

J-10 is also not available to Pakistan till China gets its minimum requirement of 200 aircraft filled. Even then, they will only offer it to Pakistan if we have no other high tech fighter. That means we have to wait till about 2008. And if we get Rafale, J-10 won't be offered to us. China is very secretive about it.

Rafale is better though... it is actually superior to the Su-30MKI, where-as the J-10 is probably not.
 

Londo Molari

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Re: Which Aircraft Should PAF opt for ????

lol, I guess its possible. We don't really know how capable it is... China has been very secretive about its capabilities.
 

zulfiqar_raza

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Pakistan is about a 10 years too late in getting a new fighter A/C. Pakistan needs to just order something now ASAP. J-10 (If the Chinese can give it to us NOW) otherwise Mirage 2000-9 ..

If not then we need to buy some highly sophisticated SAM systems. Passive radars (which would be immune to HARMs) and other items to build a highly impregnable Air Defence system.

But I haven't heard of anything lately.
When BB was there we bought the Augusta Submarines, when Nawaz was there the JF-17 was signed with China, why has the Military junta not done anything??
 

Londo Molari

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Re: Which Aircraft Should PAF opt for ????

its not magic... opportunities have to present themselves.

Other than China and France, all major arms suppliers don't sell to Pakistan, due to U.S. pressure.

Pakistan is still considering Mirage-2000.5 from France... and the JF-17 project with China is moving along, and different missiles/SAMS are being considered from China.
 

Winter

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Re: Which Aircraft Should PAF opt for ????

Globalaircraft.org & Aerospaceweb.org:

Altitude at 11,000 m (36,000ft): 1,320 mph (2,125 km/h) - Mach 2
Sea level: 864 mph (1,390 km/h) - Mach 1.135
 

Oqaab

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Re: Which Aircraft Should PAF opt for ????

The export version might be more faster coz it will be powered my M-88-3C engines.
 

Su_37

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Re: Which Aircraft Should PAF opt for ????

Well , Pakistan don't have any option to counter this aircraft. Firstly let me tell you that SU30MKI is the Most advance Warplane currently , even it outpase American F-15 in finghting skills , it low speed knigf and cobra attack is deadly. That is why American is intrested in doing War game with india using F15 and Su30.

More over ,First of the these Su30 is Air defence fighter and not a multi role planes and these are used to give india a inhand experence, develop skills and tarinaing to it pilots before going to actual Su30MKI

That is why IAf decide to convert these into Maritime Planes to rule over sea .

Indian SU30MKI will be most advance plane in the world, as it will have state of Art defensive and offensive wepons. It will also have adjustable Thrusters , which is displayed in SU37 , Which will give a cutting edge over American F22 also.

So my dear Friends pakistan don't have any option against Indian SU30MKI. Bad Luck neareast competitor is F22 and i don't think American will give it.


 

The Watcher

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SU30 is the best fighter in the world and only f22 is the nearest plane that can almost beat it? :lolol :lolol

Whats next? Arjun can invade pakistan on its own? :roll
 

Timmy

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anywayz, SU-30,37...etc. no doubt that Su-30 is a fine aircraft, but when fully armed its a flying tank, even a Mig pilot can shoot it like a duck.the actualy w8 of an Su-30 is about 30+ tones,just imagine that when its fully loaded how heavy will it be then!!!
 

Su_37

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Re: Who would sell pakistan NEW fighter jets???

Well Kilo ..I like to differ on you .....
i think should u about the previous war that happen between india and pakistan ,,, at that time also pakistan had the killer instint . that say about one pakistani to 100 indian and also have State of Art world best tank and Air Planes ,, and then also they was defected by Indian's Infierior force , Tank with antitank missiles and their Star plane wiht infian inoerior vintage MIG's .

Kilo fist you should update ur knoledge on ground level What appers on the net or to known to intellegence is not reliable. Indian defence i the most secreat one.
 

Winter

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Re: Which Aircraft Should PAF opt for ????

Weight/Mass whatever are not a serious factor for comparing combat aircraft in relation to their skills. Look at the F/A-18 Hornet and the Super Hornet.
 

Londo Molari

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Re: Which Aircraft Should PAF opt for ????

Eurofighter and Rafale are both superior to the Su-30MKI.

Gripen and F/A-18 E/F are both an even match for the Su-30MKI.

The F-22 would ANNIHILATE the Su-30MKI.

Yes, compared to Pakistan's current inventory, the Su-30MKI is very dangerous... but if we get JF-17s, the danger is reduced, and if we get the Rafale, we have a solid counter.
 

Londo Molari

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Re: Who would sell pakistan NEW fighter jets???

I agree 100% that France and China are the only reliable major arms suppliers to Pakistan.

We are already getting tonnes of stuff from China... now we don't know what PAF is upto... maybe they are evaluating Mirage 2000.5 or Rafale.
 
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