I'd love to know what yard they think has the capacity to build an aircraft carrier?
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Funding is being held up for the second 22350 Frigate, suppliers have been put on hold indefinitely.
Probably SevMash. Granted it'll be years late, and billions over budget, but it's certainly not impossible.
alexkvaskov
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Andrei Fomichev: Severnaya Verf to Build Nuclear-Powered Warships
Can't believe they're really going for a nuclear powered destroyer..
Can't believe they're really going for a nuclear powered destroyer..
Sometimes the right hand doesn't know what the left is doing. It's entirely possible that orders came down from above to accelerate production, which led to the laying down of the third ship. At the same time because of corruption (missing funds) or bureaucratic hurdles funding gets halted for the second ship.
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The seventh project 20380, Gromkiy, just got laid down at the Amur shipbuilding plant. Lets see how fast they can actually put out this series of ships. It's shaping up to be a significant purchase of modern ships for the VMF.
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Another quite problematic fact to consider is that 5.5 years ago a project 20380 Sovershenniy was laid down at the same yard. Yet it's still only estimated at 25-30% completion. There are a couple of photos here, if you scroll down. So production is going very very slowly at that facility.
http://militaryrussia.ru/blog/topic-450.html
Both ships were laid down based on the same contract, which was for one ship but included an option for a second one. The original deadling for the first ship is the end of 2012, so they would have to complete over 2/3rds of the ships construction this year, which doesn't seem likely.
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Another quite problematic fact to consider is that 5.5 years ago a project 20380 Sovershenniy was laid down at the same yard. Yet it's still only estimated at 25-30% completion. There are a couple of photos here, if you scroll down. So production is going very very slowly at that facility.
http://militaryrussia.ru/blog/topic-450.html
Both ships were laid down based on the same contract, which was for one ship but included an option for a second one. The original deadling for the first ship is the end of 2012, so they would have to complete over 2/3rds of the ships construction this year, which doesn't seem likely.
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alexkvaskov
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New corvette laid down for Pacific Fleet
Russia Lays Down New Corvette for Pacific Fleet | Defense | RIA Novosti
Russia Lays Down New Corvette for Pacific Fleet | Defense | RIA Novosti
First of all note the post directly before yours... second of all posting links to news article without any input if your own is basically spam. This also isn't your first one. You need to improve the quality of your posts or refrain from posting.
As much as i love the typhoon, i think they should scrap it, and accelerate the Borei's. The Borei's are a much more modern and advanced SSBn's, and i dont think Russian Navy has the funds to maintain those really expensive Typhoon's. With moves for a Carrier fleet, and more ocean going navy, i dont think they have the luxury of keeping the typhoon's.
And for the Nuclear destroyers, i guess that the natural step to take if they wanna build a fleet for their future Nuclear powered carrier. More endurance for prolonged or foreign mission.
So they are continuing the older 20380 class and laying down the updated Gremyashchy version at the same time?
I must say that in comparesing with Chines shipbuilding Russia is truly a slow moving giant. In 5 years they still havnt finished the first frigate. China is spitting out 2-3 frigates per year now.
It appears so, although it may just be bad reporting.
Well they have finished the first one. But yes they're moving quite slowly. Part of it is funding issues. After all the ships are only being built as fast as the money is being provided to build them. Part of it is the poor state of the facilities in question.
You're telling me, I've been waiting on confirmation of funding for 3 hulls, the two 20380's in Amur and the single 20380 at Severnaya Verf (Stoiky), the 20385 at Severnaya Verf I don't know much about, although it looks like the cabins are being delivered via a company in the UK, apparently Russian cabins aren't good enough anymore.
My guess is after the Stoiky is delivered all new orders for corvettes will be 20385's.
It'll be interesting to see what happens when the Mistrals arrive, the accommodation levels are significantly higher than any existing or in production Russian vessel.
My guess is after the Stoiky is delivered all new orders for corvettes will be 20385's.
It'll be interesting to see what happens when the Mistrals arrive, the accommodation levels are significantly higher than any existing or in production Russian vessel.
No idea, all I know is that many of the suppliers on the second hull are waiting on payment, my company included, I have a signed contract, a delivery date was agreed on, however when it came to paying the invoice it was held up; the company I work for is an approved supplier, they can't replace our product without a redesign.
I meet the General director for Severnaya Verf 3 weeks ago in Oslo, he said they were waiting payment from the state, this was expected after the presidential election. This appears to be an excuse for a lot of government projects, I'm working on another project for the Russian Border Guard, we've been expecting orders for some rather special searchlights, we've supplied proof of concept units, early production units, now funding is being held up for the main production units until after the election.
Twinblade
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Why would they want to shut down Ladas just ahead of Indian Project-75I RFP ? An uncertain project future certainly won't help them anyway in winning the $12 billion tender.
Sandhi Yudha
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Maybe because they want to overhaul the Admiral Nakhimov and possibly also the first and second ship of the Project 1144 Orlan class.
If you click on the link: "Russian Navy's long-term development program includes construction of large ocean-going destroyer powered by nuclear reactor, Navy Commander-in-Chief ADM Vladimir Vysotsky earlier reiterated."
This is consistent with earlier statements. So at this point this is what they intend to try and accomplish. whether they actually do it remains to be seen.
EDIT: Another project 11356 just got laid down at Yantar Shipyard, Kaliningrad. The Admiral Makarov is the third ship of the 2010 contract. The first two ships are to be handed over in 2014, this third in 2015. In 2011 a second three ship contract was signed with Yantar, but construction has not started on any of them yet. The first of them should be laid down at the end of this year. All 6 ships are meant for the Black Sea Fleet.
http://bmpd.livejournal.com/171725.html
Given the slow rate of production for other types, it's not impossible to see further project 11356 ships ordered post 2015.
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