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Feanor

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Just wondering, how long does it typically take for the ship to actually get commissioned after being launched for a russian navy ship these days. Do they launch it bate like the indians or do they fit it out and then launch like the chinese?
Before they launch the ship goes through factory testing. I'm not sure what the terms you're using refer to.
 

tphuang

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Before they launch the ship goes through factory testing. I'm not sure what the terms you're using refer to.
I'm just thinking of looking at Indian ships when they first launched. You can search project 15a and see that when it is launched, it has basically nothing on it. And it takes another 3 to 5 years before the ship can be commissioned with all the electronics and weapons installed.

The Chinese ships like 054A have most of the large sensors and weapon launchers already installed by the time they are launched, so they take at most 1 year to get commissioned after being launched.

Any idea what kind of time frame for Russian naval ships these days?
 

Feanor

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Handover is planned for 2011 to the VMF. Launching is when the ship first hits the water then. It's already outiftted with most of its systems. We're talking about a few months, maybe a year, of work, and then a few months of factory testing.
 

Wall83

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Handover is planned for 2011 to the VMF. Launching is when the ship first hits the water then. It's already outiftted with most of its systems. We're talking about a few months, maybe a year, of work, and then a few months of factory testing.
Well if you look at pictures from just a few weeks ago the frigates superstructure hasnt been painted yet. Shouldnt this be a sign that much work still remains?
 

Feanor

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Well if you look at pictures from just a few weeks ago the frigates superstructure hasnt been painted yet. Shouldnt this be a sign that much work still remains?
My best answer is not necessarily. Truth to be told, we won't know more until they say something. As of right now that's what the situation seems to be.
 

Feanor

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There seems to be major SYaS exercises ongoing right now, with the launch of an RS-12M Topol, two R-29R/RMU launches, and a Bulava launch upcoming.
 

Feanor

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The first Project 22350 frigate was floated out today.

Acourding to officials the ship is only 40% complete so I`m thinking atleast a year before it will go in to servce.

Russia floats out first of new class of frigate | Defense | RIA Novosti

No word about the planned Bulava test yet.
Well it is a year before it's supposed to go into service, but it's been under construction since 2006.

We've got one more Bulava launch this year in December, then 5 launches including a 2 missile volley launch next year. If all of this succeeds then the missile will enter service in late 2011.
 

Feanor

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So your estimates more or less agree with the official ones.

Anyways. Apparently there are plans to build 10 of these over the next decade. With the second one laid down in 2009, and due for handover in 2012, I'm wondering if we will see another one laid down this year, or early next, to keep up with the production rate.
 

Wall83

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Acourding to Global security the Sergey Gorshkov class will replace both the 956 Sovremennyy and the older Krivak class.
They need to build more then 10 to do this.
 

Feanor

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Total production run is currently proposed at 20 units, with with common estimates of 20-30 needed. What will actually happen will (as always) depend on finances. I personally think getting 5-8 of them handed over by 2020 will an accomplishment.
 

Feanor

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Wall83

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The Admiral Nakhimov repairs are taking off, with the ship expected to return to active service in 2012. Major work is expected to resume early next year.

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The repairs are expected to include new digital C4ISR systems. Lazarev and Ushakov are expected to return to active service within the decade, all modernized along the lines of the Petr Velikiy.
I wonder if the timetable for the Nakhimov will stand. Acourding the the director for Sevmash the funds provided will not be enough to finish the large cruiser.

Russia to repair nuclear-powered missile cruiser

I have also heard this rumors before. Both in 2006 and 2008 it was announced that the repairs now would start, but not much has happend.
 

Feanor

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An act of desperation on the part of Russia. It would've been meaningful 15 years ago in exchange for gas debts. Now this Soviet-era construction project will enter service in what.... 2012?
 
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