F-35 Multirole Joint Strike Fighter
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Peter Goon, as I understood it.
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the road runner
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From what i can gather there are question(?)marks under the Export versions of the JSF.The are asking the question if Stealth(lo)needs Approval for export.
Is there an article on Image shack about this METEORSWARM?
If not, its published by APA?:
Curiousity has me now
From what i can gather there are question(?)marks under the Export versions of the JSF.The are asking the question if Stealth(lo)needs Approval for export.
Is there an article on Image shack about this METEORSWARM?
If not, its published by APA?
:Curiousity has me now
In general, and not directed at Road Runner
How many times do I have to say this.
When I and one other person on this forum attended the JSF briefing in March of this year it was deliberately asked by 2 journalists whether there was any difference between a RAAF JSF and a USAF JSF
It was unequivocably and repeatedly stated by LM's Burbage, USG Project Lead and RAAF NACC Lead that there was no difference between a US asset and an export asset, be that export asset RAAF or any of the other 6 partner countries outside of the US.
This is getting to be a broken bloody record.
METEORSWARM
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USAF need the best version stealth(75 to 150 millions dolars),RAF fist o second version stealth (prototipe 150 millions libras)and Israel=first or second version stealth by with electronic special(200millions dolars).Out that countrys 3/ 4 version degraded,except with theath REAL WAR.
Example turkey:radar dowgrade,stealth same but electronic dowgrade.
Admin. You're getting dangerously close to me considering that you're a troll when you persist in carrying on with this pursuit of commentary.
Again, I was at that briefing, Over 6 other International Magazines and their journalists heard the same thing.
Change your approach, because if you persist in contradicting and ignoring those with first hand exposure, then your agenda is not to listen but to fan club your own perspective
Example turkey:radar dowgrade,stealth same but electronic dowgrade.
Admin. You're getting dangerously close to me considering that you're a troll when you persist in carrying on with this pursuit of commentary.
Again, I was at that briefing, Over 6 other International Magazines and their journalists heard the same thing.
Change your approach, because if you persist in contradicting and ignoring those with first hand exposure, then your agenda is not to listen but to fan club your own perspective
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Yes, and this has also been repeated by US military personell in Norway.
The question than remains, is whether "true export", ie. to non-partner countries will always be the same... I suspect the answer is no... Countries like Singapore will probably get the same version as the partner nations, but perhaps some non-partner countries will get a "less capable" F-35 .e.g., higher RCS?
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Good word speak martin,Norway ...yes only plant producction for Europe in Norway.Italy..........yes only plant production for Europe in Italy.
¡2 plant producction for Europe!
Same letters for 2 countrys
MY brain " 50 millions one aircraft f-35 for Norway" for partner.
Price Usaf is 75 to 150 millions.......partner number 1.
Bad point
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¡2 plant producction for Europe!
Same letters for 2 countrys
MY brain " 50 millions one aircraft f-35 for Norway" for partner.
Price Usaf is 75 to 150 millions.......partner number 1.
Bad point
greetings
I suspect that those who are not in the original 8/13 Group will be vulnerable to different models.
Again, the 8/13 members are getting identical capability. what people ignore is that the USAF/USMC/USN/RN for example have broader and more depth at the systems support /warfighting level, so they have stronger core support in ewarfare, sensors which they can take advantage of. Countries like Turkey or Norway don't have the same depth of organic theatre systems in place, so their JSF's wouldn't have the same interaction/integration opportunities as USG/RN. Same plane, less opportunity to maximise inherent systems already in place. eg some countries have Link11/Link16 across air land and sea spectrums, some others have it only on their aircraft. Thats a legacy of their procurement decision. Ditto for Link 22. RAAF in all likelihood will get Link22 for the Super Hornets (if we keep them) and its proposed for future naval vessels. But, USN aircraft and combat vessels will all have Link22. USAF will get it later.
Unless another SuperHornet buyer is in the Link22 development group (8+1) then they would probably not get it.
the road runner
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Japan may join JSF program.
Intrestin article in the Australian Newspaper,on Japan easing weapons exports .Is Japan seriousely contenplating the JSF?
Japan poised to ease its ban again on export of weapons | The Australian
Japan has given up on trying to gain access on Purchasing the F-22 Raptor.
The JSF would have to be the second choice for the JASDF.The reason being its the only other 5th generation Aircraft besides the F-22.
Japan would replace its F-4,F-15, F-1 and F-2 with another aircraft,possibly JSF.
What would this mean for the JSF consortium?
Japan having a very technologically advanced industry would be seen as an asset on the JSF team IMHO.Japan would need approx.200+ Aircraft to replace ageing Aircraft.
This would be great News if the JASDF chose to purchase the JSF.
Seems like The JSF futuer is looking brighter,hope India will seriousley look at the JSF.
"The average cost of the F-35 is estimated at $US133 million, although Lockheed Martin claims more international orders and new manufacturing methods could bring that below $US100 million"
How can they have a price for JSF if no orders have been placed?
What do the members think of JASDF purchasing JSF?
Thanx
Intrestin article in the Australian Newspaper,on Japan easing weapons exports .Is Japan seriousely contenplating the JSF?
Japan poised to ease its ban again on export of weapons | The Australian
Japan has given up on trying to gain access on Purchasing the F-22 Raptor.
The JSF would have to be the second choice for the JASDF.The reason being its the only other 5th generation Aircraft besides the F-22.
Japan would replace its F-4,F-15, F-1 and F-2 with another aircraft,possibly JSF.
What would this mean for the JSF consortium?
Japan having a very technologically advanced industry would be seen as an asset on the JSF team IMHO.Japan would need approx.200+ Aircraft to replace ageing Aircraft.
This would be great News if the JASDF chose to purchase the JSF.
Seems like The JSF futuer is looking brighter,hope India will seriousley look at the JSF.
"The average cost of the F-35 is estimated at $US133 million, although Lockheed Martin claims more international orders and new manufacturing methods could bring that below $US100 million"
How can they have a price for JSF if no orders have been placed?
What do the members think of JASDF purchasing JSF?
Thanx
Grand Danois
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My two bits?
Short term: replace F-4 with Typhoon. Mid to long term: induct F-35 as a replacement for F-15J.
Nice & versatile mix with the F-2s.
Short term: replace F-4 with Typhoon. Mid to long term: induct F-35 as a replacement for F-15J.
Nice & versatile mix with the F-2s.
Japan could get F-35s into service quicker than a Typhoon by now... Japan has to buy F-35s via FMS like Israel and is too late to be an industry partner. I doubt the US would let them do an F-16 to F-2 ever again and certainly not on a F-35.
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I think you mean F-35 for the whole sentence. FMS and Typhoon doesn't mix.
citizen578
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Is Japan's bid for the Raptor officially dead then?
Japan stated quite some time ago that the Typhoon was the preferred alternative. Unless something has changed, that's superb news for EF.
Japan stated quite some time ago that the Typhoon was the preferred alternative. Unless something has changed, that's superb news for EF.
Their bid for the Raptor was dead before it started...
If the Japanese are interested in license production then Typhoon is probably the only option. I doubt the French would give away their technology.
While more sales if obviously good news for the Typhoon those they are winning are hardly covering them with laurels. Corruption in Austria and Saudi Arabia and giving away core technology to Japan...
PeterCrisp
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It would be a rather large slap in the face to Japan if they didn't as Saudi Arabia are producing it's own Aircraft.
The Saudi Typhoon contract has been widely reported as including the local assembly of 48 of the 72 aircraft ordered. Seek & ye shall find. Google works.
This, however, is not comparable to joining the Eurofighter consortium, or a development-sharing partnership deal, such as have been reported to have been offered to India & Japan.
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