just to be perfectly clear, when you mention these prices, the equivalent prices for other aircraft would include sensor suites as well am I right? Like in the Super Hornet comparison. Also, by your calculations, this price includes weapons and some sort of maintenance (I suppose) that is included in the overall price am I right? If so, 180 million per airframe is not a lot more than other airframes and, considering bang for the buck, might even be a contender for the F-16... Pretty impressive considering all the cost overruns.
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just to be perfectly clear, when you mention these prices, the equivalent prices for other aircraft would include sensor suites as well am I right? Like in the Super Hornet comparison. Also, by your calculations, this price includes weapons and some sort of maintenance (I suppose) that is included in the overall price am I right? If so, 180 million per airframe is not a lot more than other airframes and, considering bang for the buck, might even be a contender for the F-16... Pretty impressive considering all the cost overruns.
No indeed - there's nothing in those numbers or that package that raises any eyebrows in terms of cost at all - they're getting a brand new combat coded jet plus an entire new support infrastructure for the sort of money you can spend on a 4G platform. So, to all those folks who've been declaring that the F35 is too expensive to buy or run, I think this is a distinct poke in the eye. Certainly to the trolls jabbering incessantly that the F35 would be $200m a copy, game over.
And it's nice to see the order go through after a lot of naysaying from ill informed sources
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F-35 B doing night time vertical landing.
[nomedia="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=atdre1joRsY"]First F-35B Night Vertical Landing - YouTube[/nomedia]
It gives a good view of the engine's thrust being cut off as soon as the F-35B hit's the ground.Admirals must hate when a hole gets burnt in their ships deck
[nomedia="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=atdre1joRsY"]First F-35B Night Vertical Landing - YouTube[/nomedia]
It gives a good view of the engine's thrust being cut off as soon as the F-35B hit's the ground.Admirals must hate when a hole gets burnt in their ships deck
I had another look at the SH and Growler SAR and the aussie quote at I guess an average year dollar 2015.. limiting it to a SH package, I work out a SH package to be $152M ea and the ROK package is said to be $180M ea in I guess an average of 2020 year dollar
when you allow for a 5 years low 2% inflation, any difference isn't worth talking about,
I figure about the primary 20% minus the10% for inflation equals a total 10% dearer and I haven't heard anyone bitch about the cost of a SH
The light of reality really messes with the naysayers doom and gloom....I don't think it would be a stretch if I looked closely at other planes packages to find that some may indeed be dearer than a F-35A
when you allow for a 5 years low 2% inflation, any difference isn't worth talking about,
I figure about the primary 20% minus the10% for inflation equals a total 10% dearer and I haven't heard anyone bitch about the cost of a SH
The light of reality really messes with the naysayers doom and gloom....I don't think it would be a stretch if I looked closely at other planes packages to find that some may indeed be dearer than a F-35A
Turning the F35 into a UCAV?
A bit off-topic here, but it's a question I have been wondering about for a while.
Is it conceivable that a future version of the F35 could be programmed to function fully autonomously--without a pilot? And would this be possible without substantial changes to its hardware?
A bit off-topic here, but it's a question I have been wondering about for a while.
Is it conceivable that a future version of the F35 could be programmed to function fully autonomously--without a pilot? And would this be possible without substantial changes to its hardware?
IIRC, LM had a proposal to create an unmanned version of the F-35 but apparently it elicited no interest.
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Does this equate to a win for the F-35 in South Korea?
Because in my opinion, the Japan going for the F-35, I don't think South Korea will want anything that isn't as stealthy or better than the F-35. Which of course, will also result in Singapore buying the F-35.
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