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I would have thought the MiG 29C's would have been BVR capable with the R-27?
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United Aircraft Corporation
I don't see MIG anywhere on the Companies listing on the below page:
http://www.uacrussia.ru/en/companies/
The press section doesn't provide much either
http://www.uacrussia.ru/en/press/news/
Military aircraft section doesn't show any MIG's either
http://www.uacrussia.ru/en/models/military/
I don't see MIG anywhere on the Companies listing on the below page:
http://www.uacrussia.ru/en/companies/
The press section doesn't provide much either
http://www.uacrussia.ru/en/press/news/
Military aircraft section doesn't show any MIG's either
http://www.uacrussia.ru/en/models/military/
Strange. I recall reading it in several articles. Ok found it. MiG is delayed from joining by financial problems, for about another year and a half.
http://www.kommersant.ru/doc.aspx?DocsID=1077830
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Mig-29
Thanks Feanor
What happens if MIG rehabilitation doesn't work out? I guess time will tell all it takes in one large order or a few upgrade contracts and things could turn around quickly. Thought it was odd that nothing was on the United Aircraft Corporation web page, it was my first time checking it out.
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Thanks Feanor
What happens if MIG rehabilitation doesn't work out? I guess time will tell all it takes in one large order or a few upgrade contracts and things could turn around quickly. Thought it was odd that nothing was on the United Aircraft Corporation web page, it was my first time checking it out.
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The problem is that our MoD essentially promised to buy the Algerian SMTs to bail out MiG, but hasn't so far. The result is a major debt. There are other problems of course, but that would plug up a large hole, along with the MiG-29K deliveries that are due to start any time.
Hello,
Just to correct, Peruvian Air Force (FAP) only has 19 MiG-29's (3 SE, 2 UB & 14 S) and 2 W/O by attrition. The recent contract is to upgrade a first batch of 8 S type models to a standard SMP (Peruvian SMT version). The only airplanes right now capable of BVR are the 3 SE with the R-77. The MiGs were never upgraded back in the 90's to any standard.
Peru is not looking to buy any new airplanes, unfortunately the funds are not enough to support a new aircraft, right now the GOP is looking for some upgrades, the MiGs contract mentioned above, a current overhaul of 13 Mi-17s in Russia and some overhaul of an undetermined Mi-25's in Peru. We still waiting for some decision for the M2000 and for the Su-25. Good news was that Russia (Oboronprom) will established a permanent major overhaul center in Peru for MIL helicopters (Mi-17, 8 and 26).
Cheers,
Marco
You guys keep talking about the S and SE as different. Does anyone have anything explaining what the difference is? From my experience E (or K for Sukhoi planes) is just attached at the end of a designation to denote that it's for export. If specific changes are made at customer request then a letter denoting the country is added.
In regards of the Peruvian MiG's the main difference between the type S ans SE is that the SE models are the only ones that can carry the RVV-AE missiles. Once the upgrade to SMP are done in all the MiG fleet, all aircraft will be capable to carry BVR missiles.
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Mig-29N
I always thought this was the first exported Mig-29 that was AA-12 capable and built off the export SE model, which to me is a software upgrade from the standard C or S models so the radar and AA-12 can work together and missiles can be salved to targets. Hope I got that right.
Is it capable for upgrade sure why not, would and is it useful to carry out such a venture for a aircraft in such small numbers? Both their Fulcrum's and Hornet's are in small number and I thought I read once where the Hornet pilots were used for the Flanker training slots, touch choices to make.
I would just like to know if the 8 or 12 Fulcrums are even flying on a daily bases? I thought India was bidding on maintenance contracts at one point?
I have read no report or article on the fate of their Mig-29N's
Do people still feel MIG has the inside track on the Indian deal? To be honest I use to but I don't think so anymore. I think the weapons suites + radar, engines, long term support, and future upgrades might have made other possible choices look a little better.
I always thought this was the first exported Mig-29 that was AA-12 capable and built off the export SE model, which to me is a software upgrade from the standard C or S models so the radar and AA-12 can work together and missiles can be salved to targets. Hope I got that right.
Is it capable for upgrade sure why not, would and is it useful to carry out such a venture for a aircraft in such small numbers? Both their Fulcrum's and Hornet's are in small number and I thought I read once where the Hornet pilots were used for the Flanker training slots, touch choices to make.
I would just like to know if the 8 or 12 Fulcrums are even flying on a daily bases? I thought India was bidding on maintenance contracts at one point?
I have read no report or article on the fate of their Mig-29N's
Do people still feel MIG has the inside track on the Indian deal? To be honest I use to but I don't think so anymore. I think the weapons suites + radar, engines, long term support, and future upgrades might have made other possible choices look a little better.
India has a major issue with too many different aircraft from multiple sources. Commonality between their carrier MiG-29K (which they obviously like since they opted for more), their existing MiG-29S (that are being modernized iirc to the SMT standard), and the potential 126 MMRCA planes is the biggest incentive to go for the MiG. It would greatly simplify logistics, training, and even combat deployments. It would not require new infrastructure the way most of the other alternatives do. Both the F-18, F-16, and Rafale, cost more. And the Gripen has issues in the area of platform development, as well as small international volume orders means it's hard to judge how good post-sale support will be.
On the other hand the latest F-16 and F-18 are highly capable, and given that the MiG-35 is still technically under development, while both of those planes are highly proven platforms, India may opt for one of them. Of course that would also be a major political step on their part, and this is where another major hope for MiG lies. I guess the only thing I can say is, time will tell.
On the other hand the latest F-16 and F-18 are highly capable, and given that the MiG-35 is still technically under development, while both of those planes are highly proven platforms, India may opt for one of them. Of course that would also be a major political step on their part, and this is where another major hope for MiG lies. I guess the only thing I can say is, time will tell.
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Feranor, congrats on the promotion. Well deserved IMHO.:cheers
Hi, I didnt realise you were promototed. Congrats feanor!.
I believe the RMAF MiG 29 is a MiG 29A variant, and at such is the SMT the most modern version it can be upgraded into?
I know that putting in an AESA, new engines, BVR missile and western ECM means its no joke anymore, but is it worth it for a 15 year old airframe from a company in trouble? And I believe there are still 16 planes flying regularly with the air force.
As for the Indian MMRCA project, I think American jets like the F 16/18 have been dealt with a crushing blow. France upped its offer with Rafel by including AESA including ToT on the AESA and also complete transfer of source codes for the radar to India. US however is not offering ToT,source codes etc2. So I think the duel is now between Rafale and MiG 35. but a MiG 35 MKI would make the MiG 35 an attractive proposition to this improved French offer.
I believe the RMAF MiG 29 is a MiG 29A variant, and at such is the SMT the most modern version it can be upgraded into?
I know that putting in an AESA, new engines, BVR missile and western ECM means its no joke anymore, but is it worth it for a 15 year old airframe from a company in trouble? And I believe there are still 16 planes flying regularly with the air force.
As for the Indian MMRCA project, I think American jets like the F 16/18 have been dealt with a crushing blow. France upped its offer with Rafel by including AESA including ToT on the AESA and also complete transfer of source codes for the radar to India. US however is not offering ToT,source codes etc2. So I think the duel is now between Rafale and MiG 35. but a MiG 35 MKI would make the MiG 35 an attractive proposition to this improved French offer.
Good question. Are there any new generation/design Mig fighters in the works? I do not count the current Mig-29/35 iterations.
I also feel Mig has a very limited civilian air segment. Nothing in the works to rival the Sukhoi Superjet 100?
I've read RAC Mig does not enjoy the same political leverage as Sukhoi.
Resting on one's laurels IMHO is clearly not the way to survive in today's business world.
Bottom line is Mig needs to change if they are to survive the next decade.
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The Zhuk-AE is still under development iirc.
They have a 15% stake in the PAK-FA and I've heard rumors of a light 5th gen fighter based on the PAK-FA to come out of MiG.
I don't think MiG does any major civilian work.
Yep. Another major problem is domestic politics.