T-90 Tank
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The Black Eagle, (Cherniy Orel), is the Project 640 sometimes referred to as the T-80UM2. It's from the Omsk KB is and unrelated to the "T-95" project from UVZ. Neigther one is in production, and only the T-90A is ready for acceptance into units right now. Given that it's production is accelerating, and that the new tank has yet to be seen publicly, it's unlikely to get into line units before the 2012-2015 timeframe. Chances are that the T-90A will indeed be a "mass" tank given it's current production trend.
No. T-80 and all of its modification were done by Ukrainian plant which now is in the territory of independent Ukraine. may be they also called their new tank T-95 but in all russian sources T-95 is the index of russian next generation tank and the "Black Eagle" from Omsk is one of these projects and may be the main project.
No. It's not the main project. Here I'll explain in Russian. Скользкий слушай есть объект 640. Это новый ОБТ от ОмскТрансМаш. Но он был закончен в 2006 году и на вооружение не поступил. Он основан на танке Т-80У который выпускался в Омске, и называется Т-80УМ2 (был ещё Т-80УМ1 Барс, тоже из ОмскТрансМаш). В СССР было 4 танковых завода. В Ленинграде, Харькове, Омске, и Нижнем Тагиле. Из них Ленинградский, Омский и Харьковский выпускали Т-80 (разные варианты) а УВЗ в Нижнем Тагиле выпускал Т-72. ОмскТрансМаш обанкротился и был распродан полностью. Т-95 это новый ОБТ от УралВагонЗавод. Два разных танка. 
Да знаю я почти все кроме банкротства. И то что ленинградский завод своими разработками не занимается и то что основным разработчиком Т-80 выстал Харьковский завод. И то что Нижний Тагил занимается также разработкой новой машины неа базе Т-90С но пока что ни их вариант ни Омский "Черный Орел" не приняты и кто из них как будет называться пока не ясно. По крайней мере такую инфу я читал везде где видел. Чаще всего объеденяли Т-95 "Черный Орел" (ну конечно нашим СМИ так проще). Может быть я и не прав но такая инфа вот ходит.No. It's not the main project. Here I'll explain in Russian. Скользкий слушай есть объект 640. Это новый ОБТ от ОмскТрансМаш. Но он был закончен в 2006 году и на вооружение не поступил. Он основан на танке Т-80У который выпускался в Омске, и называется Т-80УМ2 (был ещё Т-80УМ1 Барс, тоже из ОмскТрансМаш). В СССР было 4 танковых завода. В Ленинграде, Харькове, Омске, и Нижнем Тагиле. Из них Ленинградский, Омский и Харьковский выпускали Т-80 (разные варианты) а УВЗ в Нижнем Тагиле выпускал Т-72. ОмскТрансМаш обанкротился и был распродан полностью. Т-95 это новый ОБТ от УралВагонЗавод. Два разных танка.
Факт остается фактом что есть НИжний ТАгильский танк и есть Омский танк - теперь выбор за военными.
Show it to him Feanor.
But exactly I know that there are two projects one from Omsk and another from Nijniy Tagil. that's exact. the military now would make their choice =)
Thales sights have been in Russian inventory now for a few years, the big hub bub was announced a year ago when it was decided that Thales Thermals would be manufactured in Russia proper under license for T-90 series.
@SkolZkiy
Black Eagle is a dead project, been dead for quite some time. When the South Koreans said no thanks that pretty much finalized this project. Ukrainians are said to be also coming out with their own new tank project based on T-80 series hull, it remains to be seen on how far this project gets off of the ground.
@SkolZkiy
Black Eagle is a dead project, been dead for quite some time. When the South Koreans said no thanks that pretty much finalized this project. Ukrainians are said to be also coming out with their own new tank project based on T-80 series hull, it remains to be seen on how far this project gets off of the ground.
The problem isn't that it's outdated. It's actually a very interesting concept. The problem is whether 1) it's cost-effective, and 2) whether there are enough sensors on it to compensate for the awareness drop by removing the crew from the turret.
Anyways just making sure we keep the distinction between the two tanks very very clear. The proper names are iirc object 640 and object 187. The informal names are Black Eagle and T-95. They are different. And from what it looks like, the UVZ project is the one that will be selected.
Anyways just making sure we keep the distinction between the two tanks very very clear. The proper names are iirc object 640 and object 187. The informal names are Black Eagle and T-95. They are different. And from what it looks like, the UVZ project is the one that will be selected.
Then why bring it up, this is a pure Russian design not of Ukrainian even though that it is based on a T-80 chassis, as stated by another forum contributor, the main Russian tank will in fact be the T-90 series, you will be lucky to see the T-95 enter service even by 2015, other priorities are needed.
My apologies. I got those two confused. Here's an interesting summary.
http://personal.inet.fi/cool/foxfour/ussr92/tanks.html
http://personal.inet.fi/cool/foxfour/ussr92/tanks.html
That is not how Relikt is designed to work, all it comprises of is a ERA upgrade to existing Russian packages that relies on initial projectile penetration. I have to laugh though at some of these so called experts who have stated to me that Relikt was not being mounted on T-72 and T-90 series when I knew very well that it was and may very well be mounted on Algerian T-90SA models.
Russians are in fact working on a designated T-95 model, the question is will it be fielded any time soon which is doubtful. You guys should also keep in mind that Russia is also working on their own version of FCS combat vehicles that could share the same design principals as U.S vehicles, one chassis for multipal tasks.
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Target, ceasefire Waylander.Thanks god the possible adversaries are doing the same mistakes...
BTW, any new pictures of Algerian T-90SAs?
I will see what I can dig up photo wise on a Algerian T-90 model, alot of the ones coming out of Algeria show them covered up.
Really? Do you have a source? And could you elaborate on your explanation? I was under the impression that Relikt was an ERA package in it's own right.
Yes, my source is the U.S Department of Defense, the majority of these articles that get posted like the one you referenced to is nothing more than fanboy Russian, Western propaganda, not that I havent read some of the same crap from the U.S sites.
Relikt is not a radar command detonated ERA package, it is a next generation ERA package, maybe I should of stated next generation versus ERA upgrade in my prior post to eliminate any potential confusion.