Pakistan Air Force [PAF] News and Discussions

SABRE

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AFAIK these are F-16A/B Block 15OCU from the 28 (11 from Peacegate III and 17 from Peacegate IV) that were storaged at AMARC. These as well as all current PAF F-16A/B Block 15 are all scheduled for MLU as part of the F-16C/D Block 52 deal.
Thats what the news article say.
 

Aliph Ahmed

Banned Member
The 4 F-16s have now been handed over to PAF. They have not been MLUed yet.
Handing Ceremony :

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Of2laUsofY"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Of2laUsofY[/ame]

Refurbished but not MLUed yet as rightly mentioned by Sabre.
 

Aliph Ahmed

Banned Member
Four more F-16s to join PAF soon

Thursday, July 17, 2008
By Hanif Khalid

ISLAMABAD: Four more F-16 fighter aircraft will join the Pakistan Air Force on July 28, 2008. For this purpose, a ceremony for handing over of the planes to the Pakistan Air Force will be held at the PAF Base Mushaf on Saturday.

The four F-16 planes, which are going to be handed over to Pakistan in the last week of the current month, have been upgraded and modified to the extent that they will perform just like new F-16s.
Last month, the Deputy Chief of Air Staff (Operations), Air Marshal Rao Qamar Suleiman, had received four Fighting Falcons from Lt Gen Gary L North, Commander 9th Air Force, and the USAF Central Command while four were received last year. These refurbished F-16s have the same operational capability as of those already possessed by the PAF and will significantly augment its combat capability.

Meanwhile, state-of-the-art JF-17 Thunder fighter aircraft will be inducted as regular squadron of the Pakistan Air Force by the end of the current year. The small batch production of the JF-17 Thunder multi-role aircraft is in progress both in China and the Kamra Aeronautical Complex. Pakistan Air Force is in the process of completing the testing and evaluation of aircraft jointly produced by Pakistan and China. After completion of the evaluation, the new aircraft will be certified by international monitors to become operational in the air forces of the world.

Serial production of the JF-17 Thunder will also start in Pakistan soon. In the first phase 40%, in the second 60%, in the third phase 80% and in the last phase 100% JF-17 Thunder warplanes will be built at the Kamra Aeronautical Complex. Chief of the Air Staff, Air Chief Marshal Tanveer Mehmood, is personally supervising the task of inducting new platforms in the PAF.

http://www.thenews.com.pk/daily_detail.asp?id=124674

Interesting. Pakistan recieved two F-16s from USA and they sent two to USA for MLU. Then Pakistan revcieved 4 in June and another 4 will be recieved on last SAT of July. I guess time to send two more F-16s to Portugal for MLU untill space is available in Turkey.
 

pshamim

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Like to find out what certain upgrades are being planned now which were not before for Pakistani F-16s. Radars are also mentioned though APG-68(V9) were planned and announced. Are they by any chance considering AESA??? Not sure but intrigued.


Plan Would Use Antiterror Aid on Pakistani Jets
By ERIC SCHMITT

Published: July 24, 2008
WASHINGTON — The Bush administration plans to shift nearly $230 million in aid to Pakistan from counterterrorism programs to upgrading that country’s aging F-16 attack planes, which Pakistan prizes more for their contribution to its military rivalry with India than for fighting insurgents along its Afghan border.

Notification From State Department of Intention to Change Funding to Pakistan
Some members of Congress have greeted the proposal with dismay and anger, and may block the move. Lawmakers and their aides say that F-16s do not help the counterterrorism campaign and defy the administration’s urgings that Pakistan increase pressure on fighters of Al Qaeda and the Taliban in its tribal areas.

The timing of the action caught lawmakers off guard, prompting some of them to suspect that the deal was meant to curry favor with the new Pakistani prime minister, Yousaf Raza Gilani, who will meet with President Bush in Washington next week, and to ease tensions over the 11 members of the Pakistani paramilitary forces killed in an American airstrike along the Afghan border last month.

The financing for the F-16s would represent more than two-thirds of the $300 million that Pakistan will receive this year in American military financing for equipment and training.

Last year, Congress specified that those funds be used for law enforcement or counterterrorism. Pakistan’s military has rarely used its current fleet of F-16s, which were built in the 1980s, for close-air support of counterterrorism missions, largely because the risks of civilian casualties would inflame anti-government sentiments in the Federally Administered Tribal Areas.

State Department officials say the upgrades would greatly enhance the F-16s’ ability to strike insurgents accurately, while reducing the risk to civilians. The officials, who spoke on condition of anonymity because Congress was weighing the plan, said the timing was driven by deadlines of the American contractor, Lockheed Martin.

Having the United States pay for the upgrades instead of Pakistan would also free up cash that Pakistan’s government could use to help offset rising fuel and food costs, which have contributed to an economic crisis there, the State Department officials said.

Under the original plan sent to Congress in April, the administration intended to use up to $226.5 million of the aid to refurbish two of Pakistan’s P-3 maritime patrol planes, buy it new airfield navigation aids and overhaul its troubled fleet of Cobra attack helicopters. The State Department notified Congress last week that the administration had changed its mind and would apply the funds to the F-16s.

Lawmakers immediately bridled at the shift, questioning whether the counterterrorism money could be spent more effectively. “We need to know if this is the best way to help Pakistan combat Al Qaeda and the Taliban,” Senator Patrick J. Leahy, a Vermont Democrat who heads the appropriations subcommittee on State Department and foreign operations, said in a statement.

Representative Nita M. Lowey, a New York Democrat who heads the House appropriations subcommittee on foreign operations, said in a statement, “It is incumbent on the State Department and Pakistan to demonstrate clearly how these F-16s would be used to fight Al Qaeda and the Taliban in order to get Congressional support.”

In a two-page notification to Congress, the State Department said that upgrading the avionics, targeting and radar systems of Pakistan’s older F-16s would “increase the survivability of the aircraft in a hostile environment” and make the “F-16s a more valuable counterterrorism asset that operates safely during day and night operations.” The notification said the modernized systems would also increase the accuracy of the F-16s’ support of Pakistani ground troops, lessening the risks of civilian casualties.

Many Congressional officials remain unconvinced. “Using F-16s this way is like hitting a fly with a sledgehammer,” said one senior Senate Democratic aide, who spoke on condition of anonymity because of the current negotiations. It remains unclear whether any lawmaker will block or postpone the financing, and risk harming relations with Pakistan any further.

Even if approved, the upgraded F-16s would not be available until 2011, said one House aide who had been briefed on the issue, and who spoke on condition of anonymity, raising the question whether the funds could be spent on counterterrorism equipment that could be employed more quickly.

Pakistan agreed to buy about 70 F-16s in the 1980s, and about 40 were delivered before Congress cut off all aid and military sales in 1990, citing Pakistan’s secret development of nuclear weapons.

A new deal was struck after the Sept. 11 attacks to allow Pakistan to buy newer models, in part to reward Pakistan’s cooperation in fighting terrorism. In 2006, Pakistan was a major recipient of American arms sales, including the $1.4 billion purchase of up to 36 new F-16C/D fighter aircraft and $640 million in missiles and bombs. The deal included a package for $891 million in upgrades for Pakistan’s older F-16s.

At that time, the United States agreed to use $108 million of its annual security aid to Pakistan to retrofit the older F-16s with equipment to make them comparable to the newer models that will be delivered in the next several years. But the administration promised Congress that the Pakistani government would pay for the rest of the upgrades with its own funds. With Pakistan now facing economic hardships, top Pakistani leaders appealed to senior State Department officials to help defray the costs of the ongoing upgrades.

The debate over the F-16 financing comes at a time when Congress has grown increasingly frustrated with the administration’s Pakistan policy, arguing it has been weighted too heavily on security assistance. The United States has given more than $10 billion in military aid to Pakistan since the Sept. 11 attacks, when President Pervez Musharraf agreed to become an ally in the campaign against terrorism. Of that amount, $5.5 billion was specifically intended to reimburse the counterinsurgency efforts by the Pakistani Army, but Congressional auditors have said that Pakistan did not spend much of that money on counterinsurgency.

Senior administration officials, including top military officers, are also voicing increasing exasperation with Pakistan’s efforts to combat militants in the mountainous region along the border with Afghanistan. “We need Pakistan to put more pressure on that border,” Adm. Mike Mullen, the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, said on “The NewsHour With Jim Lehrer” on PBS on Tuesday.


http://www.nytimes.com/2008/07/24/wo...hp&oref=slogin
 

kay_man

New Member
Like to find out what certain upgrades are being planned now which were not before for Pakistani F-16s. Radars are also mentioned though APG-68(V9) were planned and announced. Are they by any chance considering AESA??? Not sure but intrigued.


Plan Would Use Antiterror Aid on Pakistani Jets
By ERIC SCHMITT

Published: July 24, 2008
WASHINGTON — The Bush administration plans to shift nearly $230 million in aid to Pakistan from counterterrorism programs to upgrading that country’s aging F-16 attack planes, which Pakistan prizes more for their contribution to its military rivalry with India than for fighting insurgents along its Afghan border.

Notification From State Department of Intention to Change Funding to Pakistan
Some members of Congress have greeted the proposal with dismay and anger, and may block the move. Lawmakers and their aides say that F-16s do not help the counterterrorism campaign and defy the administration’s urgings that Pakistan increase pressure on fighters of Al Qaeda and the Taliban in its tribal areas.

The timing of the action caught lawmakers off guard, prompting some of them to suspect that the deal was meant to curry favor with the new Pakistani prime minister, Yousaf Raza Gilani, who will meet with President Bush in Washington next week, and to ease tensions over the 11 members of the Pakistani paramilitary forces killed in an American airstrike along the Afghan border last month.

The financing for the F-16s would represent more than two-thirds of the $300 million that Pakistan will receive this year in American military financing for equipment and training.

Last year, Congress specified that those funds be used for law enforcement or counterterrorism. Pakistan’s military has rarely used its current fleet of F-16s, which were built in the 1980s, for close-air support of counterterrorism missions, largely because the risks of civilian casualties would inflame anti-government sentiments in the Federally Administered Tribal Areas.

State Department officials say the upgrades would greatly enhance the F-16s’ ability to strike insurgents accurately, while reducing the risk to civilians. The officials, who spoke on condition of anonymity because Congress was weighing the plan, said the timing was driven by deadlines of the American contractor, Lockheed Martin.

Having the United States pay for the upgrades instead of Pakistan would also free up cash that Pakistan’s government could use to help offset rising fuel and food costs, which have contributed to an economic crisis there, the State Department officials said.

Under the original plan sent to Congress in April, the administration intended to use up to $226.5 million of the aid to refurbish two of Pakistan’s P-3 maritime patrol planes, buy it new airfield navigation aids and overhaul its troubled fleet of Cobra attack helicopters. The State Department notified Congress last week that the administration had changed its mind and would apply the funds to the F-16s.

Lawmakers immediately bridled at the shift, questioning whether the counterterrorism money could be spent more effectively. “We need to know if this is the best way to help Pakistan combat Al Qaeda and the Taliban,” Senator Patrick J. Leahy, a Vermont Democrat who heads the appropriations subcommittee on State Department and foreign operations, said in a statement.

Representative Nita M. Lowey, a New York Democrat who heads the House appropriations subcommittee on foreign operations, said in a statement, “It is incumbent on the State Department and Pakistan to demonstrate clearly how these F-16s would be used to fight Al Qaeda and the Taliban in order to get Congressional support.”

In a two-page notification to Congress, the State Department said that upgrading the avionics, targeting and radar systems of Pakistan’s older F-16s would “increase the survivability of the aircraft in a hostile environment” and make the “F-16s a more valuable counterterrorism asset that operates safely during day and night operations.” The notification said the modernized systems would also increase the accuracy of the F-16s’ support of Pakistani ground troops, lessening the risks of civilian casualties.

Many Congressional officials remain unconvinced. “Using F-16s this way is like hitting a fly with a sledgehammer,” said one senior Senate Democratic aide, who spoke on condition of anonymity because of the current negotiations. It remains unclear whether any lawmaker will block or postpone the financing, and risk harming relations with Pakistan any further.

Even if approved, the upgraded F-16s would not be available until 2011, said one House aide who had been briefed on the issue, and who spoke on condition of anonymity, raising the question whether the funds could be spent on counterterrorism equipment that could be employed more quickly.

Pakistan agreed to buy about 70 F-16s in the 1980s, and about 40 were delivered before Congress cut off all aid and military sales in 1990, citing Pakistan’s secret development of nuclear weapons.

A new deal was struck after the Sept. 11 attacks to allow Pakistan to buy newer models, in part to reward Pakistan’s cooperation in fighting terrorism. In 2006, Pakistan was a major recipient of American arms sales, including the $1.4 billion purchase of up to 36 new F-16C/D fighter aircraft and $640 million in missiles and bombs. The deal included a package for $891 million in upgrades for Pakistan’s older F-16s.

At that time, the United States agreed to use $108 million of its annual security aid to Pakistan to retrofit the older F-16s with equipment to make them comparable to the newer models that will be delivered in the next several years. But the administration promised Congress that the Pakistani government would pay for the rest of the upgrades with its own funds. With Pakistan now facing economic hardships, top Pakistani leaders appealed to senior State Department officials to help defray the costs of the ongoing upgrades.

The debate over the F-16 financing comes at a time when Congress has grown increasingly frustrated with the administration’s Pakistan policy, arguing it has been weighted too heavily on security assistance. The United States has given more than $10 billion in military aid to Pakistan since the Sept. 11 attacks, when President Pervez Musharraf agreed to become an ally in the campaign against terrorism. Of that amount, $5.5 billion was specifically intended to reimburse the counterinsurgency efforts by the Pakistani Army, but Congressional auditors have said that Pakistan did not spend much of that money on counterinsurgency.

Senior administration officials, including top military officers, are also voicing increasing exasperation with Pakistan’s efforts to combat militants in the mountainous region along the border with Afghanistan. “We need Pakistan to put more pressure on that border,” Adm. Mike Mullen, the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, said on “The NewsHour With Jim Lehrer” on PBS on Tuesday.


http://www.nytimes.com/2008/07/24/wo...hp&oref=slogin
hey guys,

has the 230 million aid already been diverted to F-16 upgrades ?
because i heard there was a lot of opposition from the congress and all.
if it has been done then it will deffinately annoy the indian govt...........maybe even to a point that it would affect the nuclear pact between the two nations.

in all fairness the F-16 is not an appropriate weapon to fight guerillas.
if it were the cobra attack helos to be upgraded it was alright.
 

SABRE

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Verified Defense Pro
hey guys,

has the 230 million aid already been diverted to F-16 upgrades ?
because i heard there was a lot of opposition from the congress and all.
if it has been done then it will deffinately annoy the indian govt...........maybe even to a point that it would affect the nuclear pact between the two nations.

in all fairness the F-16 is not an appropriate weapon to fight guerillas.
if it were the cobra attack helos to be upgraded it was alright.
Lets no drag India into it, but nevertheless it probably would annoy "some" Indians.

The upgrade/MLU, as far as my knowledge is concerned, will began in 2009 and the final 2 upgraded aircraft will be handed over in 2011.

F-16s come with some good air-2-ground weapons which can come handy in war against terrorists.
 

yess

New Member
Lets no drag India into it, but nevertheless it probably would annoy "some" Indians.

The upgrade/MLU, as far as my knowledge is concerned, will began in 2009 and the final 2 upgraded aircraft will be handed over in 2011.

F-16s come with some good air-2-ground weapons which can come handy in war against terrorists.
2 PAF F-16s are already in US along with PAF technicians for traning, and mass MLU will start next year..
 

SABRE

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Verified Defense Pro
2 PAF F-16s are already in US along with PAF technicians for traning, and mass MLU will start next year..
What did I say? I said "2009," isn't it next year? :unknown;)

4 more F-16s have arrived in Pakistan from US btw.
 

kay_man

New Member
What did I say? I said "2009," isn't it next year? :unknown;)

4 more F-16s have arrived in Pakistan from US btw.
heheheh

anyways ,
but i believe that unless the upgraded f-16s could fire the JDAM its not soo much more effective against guerillas.

anyway i hardly think any goddamn fixed wing aircraft even an f-22 for that matter is too much firepower for attacking enemies who are dispersed over large area and civilians.....its just too high profile.

any attach heli shold be much more effective in terms of surprise and accurate fire power and close in support to ground troops.

shouldnt pakistan go in for cobra upgrade of for that matter even buy couple of cool Apaches:unknown
 

SABRE

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Verified Defense Pro
heheheh

anyways ,
but i believe that unless the upgraded f-16s could fire the JDAM its not soo much more effective against guerillas.
JDAMs is part of the deal but I believe only some MLUed F-16s will carry them. Most of the Block 15 A/B are supposed to be upgraded in air-to-air combat configuration (air superiority rule). So far MLU deal is for 46 F-16s only.

any attach heli shold be much more effective in terms of surprise and accurate fire power and close in support to ground troops.

shouldnt pakistan go in for cobra upgrade of for that matter even buy couple of cool Apaches:unknown
PA is looking into new halicopters (alternative to Cobra but to work side by side). AFAIK Apache is not on the list.
 

SABRE

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Verified Defense Pro
you said mlu will start next year and i said it already started this year but mass mlu in 2009
Oh! close enough. I didn't get any news on MLU being done on 2 aircrafts so ... Any source btw? I mean did you find out online or someone told you?
 

yess

New Member
F-16A 84713 81-0911
F-16B 82603 81-0933
left pakistan on 11th of jan and got stuck in Lejas AFB for 4 months and not until last month did they tough down in US. F-16B has some problem with the engine so it had to be solved before they could tough down USandA and some ground crew played a joke "painted LJ code" for Lejas... http://www.azoresairphotos.com/fotos/small/4901.jpg
^ view all of his pictures he knows every single details from his observation...
 

Aliph Ahmed

Banned Member
F-16A 84713 81-0911
F-16B 82603 81-0933
left pakistan on 11th of jan and got stuck in Lejas AFB for 4 months and not until last month did they tough down in US. F-16B has some problem with the engine so it had to be solved before they could tough down USandA and some ground crew played a joke "painted LJ code" for Lejas... http://www.azoresairphotos.com/fotos/small/4901.jpg
^ view all of his pictures he knows every single details from his observation...
Just to add on the 4 month stuck part :

When the two PAF jets reached Lejas from where the US pilots were to fly them out. The US pilots refused to fly the jets citing out dated electrical parts. Which were then changed and only then the US pilots flew them.

The two jets Pakistan sent to US for MLU are the ones with highest number of clocked flight hours.
 

DefConGuru

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I'm going to be a little random here and say that Pakistan needs to leverage it's relationship with the United States and try its best to acquire CH-47 Chinooks for paramilitary/ranger units as well as for the Army and Air Force, specifically the MH-47G which is leaps and bounds over the Blackhawk and perfect for Pakistani terrain, but knowing the U.S. they wouldn't like us having such sophisticated machinery so the CH-47F version seems to be within reach. This helicopter provides a solution to most of Pakistan's current deficiencies in the air, it is has kick a$$ attack capabilities and with its large payload, range, and higher operating speed, one Chinook can replace up to five UH-60s in the role of air assault transport (Wiki).

Trust me, this is all we need in the air. I'd take a couple hundred Chinooks over 30 odd F-16's any day.
 

DefConGuru

New Member
The main point though is that the CH-47 can insert up to 55 combat ready troops anywhere at any time while putting down enough fire power to suppress a wide variety of targets from tanks to personnel to fortified positions. You get cargo + attack capabilities, something Pakistan lacks in the air and will not get out of expensive European play toys such as Eurotiger or the Chinese WXYZ or whatever it is.

The few Hercules that we have are over extended with anything from humanitarian missions to deploying infantry as it is, they need a hand with cargo/troop movement and it's time someone did something about it.

Current military operators of CH-47 and variants : Argentina, Australia, Egypt, Greece, Iran, Italy, Japan, Libya, Morocco, Netherlands, Taiwan, Singapore, South Korea, Spain, Thailand, UK, UAE, US, Vietnam.

Seriously get with the program and cop these helicopters, best case scenario the MH-47G but we can live with the CH-47F though anything less and we're getting screwed.

A great investment of a few billion or less for our needs.
 

yess

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ok guys as a reference i will use lindsyebanks post on defence-pk

The AFM September issue is on sale. Don't know when exactly it went on sale but seems on 11 August as confirmed by the shop assistant at W H Smith where I picked up a copy from yesterday in London, UK.

Here are the main points covered in the AFM INTERVIEW WITH ACM-T.MAHMOOD.

1) By 2015, PAF will comprise 240 JF-17, 60 F-16's, 40 FC-20's (PAF version of J-10), 50 F-7PG's, 4 SAAB Erieye, 4 ZDK-03 (PAF version of Y-8), 4 IL-78 Midas

2) Current order status comprises; 150 JF-17's, 32 F-16's (variant unspecified), 4 Erieye's, 4 IL-78

3) FC-20 order should be confirmed in next 12 months or so, whilst final configuration is worked out. Current J-10 technology is not upto PAF requirements and as the platform natures, PAF hopes to include western equipment in the J-10, thereby signifying a different version from PLAAF J-10, which will be known as FC-20 in PAF service. FC-20 will not be required to have any conformal fuel tanks, as it has sufficient internal fuel capacity as well as AAR by Il-78 Midas tankers. Although AESA radar would be nice to have, there is no confirmation if this will be made available to PAF. (persumably refers to non-Chinese suppliers willingness to supply)

4) FC-20 requirement stands at 2 squadrons of 36-40 single and dual seaters

5) IL-78 Midas tankers will be able to provide AAR for all PAF fighter aircraft with the exception of the US manufactured F-16's (ence the conformal fuel tanks on the block 52 on order makes hence). F-16's can only be refueld ny a boom system whereas the Midas will be equipped with the probe and drogue underwing pods system. PAF is holding out hope that a KC-135 could be acquired from the US in the near future. First Midas delivery will commence early 2009

6) Whilst Erieye's will help datalink the F-16's, they will not be able to do so in the case of the Mirage fleet. Chinese origin fighter fleet will have AEW&C cover from the planned acquisition of 4 ZDK-03 (chinese Y-8 AWACS). The ZDK-03 contract is close to be being finalised for the required 4 aircraft - no delivery timelines mentioned. First Erieye will be delivered in 2009, folowed by the remainder by 2011

7) Block 52 F-16's will be based at PAF Shahbaz to replace Mirage aircreft in AD role. ''Final modifications are being sorted out in co-ordination with US authorities to ensure F-16 related facilities conform with DSCA standards/requirements''. Persumably this refers to the security guarantees asked for by the US prior to releasing the aircraft to PAF, in that the former wanted the ability to check (unannounced) the presence and location of these aircraft to ensure an example or two did not end up being loaned to someone (like China)

8) MLU of initial 4 F-16 aircraft in US is currently underway. Without giving anytimelines or as to where or by whom, the interview merely states that the MLU will continue for all remaining A/B models

9) Of the 32 F-16's on order there was no mention of which block is on order. Should one persume that the interview implies that 18 F-16's are of the block 52 on order + the 14 block 15 OCU's, the last of which were delivered last month.

A photo caption in the interview page states that a further 28 C/D's are being delivered. However the same issue on page 34 states that USN has not yet confirmed whether it is yet wiling to provide the ex-PAF aircraft it took into service, leaving PAF with a current tally of 14 Block 15 delivered. Can any aviation buffs confirm whether they agree with me if this is a typo error by AFM and that PAF is only hoping to acquire the embargoed A/B Block 15 models and not C/D's as noted on page 70 of the AFM September issue?

10) Peshawar based 26 & 16 Sqn's will be the first to convert from A-5 to JF-17 in 2009.

11) Delivery of JF-17 has already started and once the assembly facility has been completed at AMF, the induction pace will pick-up to eventually allow delivery of 25-30 aircraft per year to achieve the final numbers by 2015

12) Without making any reference to the first 50 JF-17 (persumably) already ordered, the interview goes straight to the question on the final configuration of the next batch order of 50 aircraft. Only thing mentioned here without going into specifics is that a final decsion on final configuration has been made, but the make and origin of the equipment type is under consideration. And no decision has yet been made on AESA radar.

13) 150 JF-17's are expected to equip 7-8 squadrons

14) PAF is acquiring 2 Sqn's of the Italian Falco UAV with coversion takking place for operations from PAF Mushaf and PAF Peshawar. Eventually, PAF plans to field 5-6 UAV Sqn's.

Can anyone shed some light on what is happeneing with the home grown Pakistani origin UAV's? If PAF isn't using them and nor is PN, is PA only using a handful of these whilst preferring to buy from abroad?

15) In 2015, PAF will remain at its current strength of 15 Squadrons. But the capability will be significantly enhanced by the composition of the ''high-tech and force multiplier'' equipment.

The interview ends with a note on Pakistan's time tested close relationship with China etc etc and a small footnote to say Alan Warnes is writing a ook on the ''Modern PAF'', due out in early 2009. One can assume that he has been offered the opportunity to continue from where PAF Shaheen book club left off with its two books covering PAF history from 1947-1998, whereby Alan will likley write from 1998 to present.

(AFM can be bought/ordered from Liberty Books stores in DHA/Clifton, Karachi. Can't speak for any other branches of the chain)
 

yess

New Member
Date Posted: 13-Aug-2008

Jane's Defence Weekly

TAI closes in on Pakistani F-16A/B upgrade contract

Lale Sariibrahimoglu JDW Correspondent - Ankara

Turkish Aerospace Industries (TAI) will be awarded a contract to upgrade 42 Pakistan Air Force (PAF) Lockheed Martin F-16A/B Block 15 combat aircraft once negotiations are concluded later in the year, a TAI source has confirmed.

The mid-life upgrade (MLU) will involve an avionics replacement as well as structural modifications designed to bring them closer to Block 50 standard.

The work will be carried out at TAI facilities near Ankara and will commence in early 2009; it is expected to be completed in 2011.

According to TAI sources, an earlier agreement to upgrade PAF F-16s had to be abandoned due to unspecified economic reasons. For this latest upgrade, TAI was competing against Dutch company Fokker and Belgian company Sabca.

Before the work can begin, two Block 15 F-16s will undergo a test verification installation at a Lockheed Martin facility in the United States.

The Pakistan tender came following a letter of agreement (LOA) signed between the US and Pakistani governments in September 2007 clearing the transfer of avionics and structural upgrade components.

Seperately, TAI plans to complete the MLU and structural modification of 17 Jordanian Block 15 F-16 A/Bs by the end of this year.

Egypt has also announced its intention to upgrade its 33 F-16A/B Block 15 aircraft for which TAI plans to bid.

Meanwhile, in a separate deal with Pakistan, Turkish company Aselsan, a strategic partner with Islamabad in the production of Pakistani army field radios, will also provide the Pakistani navy with four gyro-stabilised 25 mm guns under a deal signed in July.

Additionally, Havelsan of Turkey has sold Pakistan a USD28 million tactical simulated range electronic warfare system to deter surface-to-air threats.

Turkey and Pakistan have already agreed to co-operate in research and development across a range of defence projects, including the joint production of cluster bombs.
 
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