Bell? and I thought it's a Z9C
. May be Tphaung can confirm.
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. May be Tphaung can confirm.Bell? and I thought it's a Z9C
. Z-9EZ plus the WZ-10s to be acquired by pakistan
very soon pakistan will be in a different league as far as helicopters r concerned.
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Nope, its a Z9, ie a chinese version of the Dauphin.
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Yup thanks for correcting. I shouldn't take such quick looks at these pictures while sneaking online from work.
sashikanth
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Does the pn have an airwing??
Yes. I believe so. located right on the coast. consisting mainly of P-3C orions, various helicopters, a few dozon mirage fighters. We should have a heavy fighter squad in place by 2011 at the least. talk is of naval JF-17s to replace the aging mirages. we are also getting more p-3C orions.
Guess reading and comprehension is not your strong point. That is Chinese Z-9 not a Bell.
RubiconNZ
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No disrepect intended but what is the point of a non-carrer navy operating a Fighter airwing, does it not just duplicate resources better placed elsewhere?
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To conduct reconnaissance, surveillance, ASW, EW, and strike missions in the northern Arabian Sea.
except that those types of missions (and even strike is mission and requirements dependant) are not the province of fighter elements.
ISR is the province of fixed wing LR maritime
ASW is the province of fixed and rotor wing usually organic to the fleet if not land based AMS owned
EW is a supplementary role for ISR LR assets, and no fighter in the current PakDef structure is configured to pick up that role.
The trend is emerging (for smaller navies) to look at FAA fixed wing being co-crewed and operated by the air force anyway. Its logistically smarter across a number of critical areas.
RubiconNZ
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That was my thinking I'm aware of a few other navies operating Fleet Strike Arms, eg:Argentina, without carrier assets. Is this just inter service budget rivalry or is there a clear benefit.
In Argentinas case it's because the navy had a carrier, & when it lost it fought tooth & nail to keep the aircraft. It's even done some carrier training on Sao Paulo, dreaming of getting a new carrier one day.
Not necessarily. there is a reason for having such an airwing. the mirages have a main role of air to surface attack as well as a2a. the PN would be more or less a sitting duck without them. it's not as if the PN require this airwing to go too far. there their to protect the coast from attack.
However, the force would become much more effective once the PAF get the ariel re-fueling capability and the JF-17's. this would most definately make the airwing more agile.
If you want to have maritime strike assets a specialized wing is for sure a good idea because they concentrate on these tasks and interaction with the navy is much easier when you are part of the navy.
We also operated a naval strike wing with Tornado IDS.
But with the decreasing threat of enemy surface units the wing was disbanded and now an air force wing covers maritime strike missions as a second role.
They defenitely don't reach the same performance like their predecessors but the threat is also not that imminent anymore.
We also operated a naval strike wing with Tornado IDS.
But with the decreasing threat of enemy surface units the wing was disbanded and now an air force wing covers maritime strike missions as a second role.
They defenitely don't reach the same performance like their predecessors but the threat is also not that imminent anymore.
can't be doing much training thease days with San Paulo being in its present state and brazil
yes
yes they do !!!
the Z-9Ec is a prime example
also there r talks of joint production of the WZ-10 between china & pakistan.
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Mod edit: Please keep posts On Topic in both the thread and category. The WZ-10 is an attack helicopter, not a naval helicopter. As such it wouldn't be a part of naval aviation so discussion of it and any joint production agreements properly belong in the Aviation category.
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yes they do !!!
the Z-9Ec is a prime example
also there r talks of joint production of the WZ-10 between china & pakistan.
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Mod edit: Please keep posts On Topic in both the thread and category. The WZ-10 is an attack helicopter, not a naval helicopter. As such it wouldn't be a part of naval aviation so discussion of it and any joint production agreements properly belong in the Aviation category.
-Preceptor
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sashikanth
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Admin. Text deleted. This kind of comment is guaranteed to get people excited. Please find a way to ask questions without making them confrontational and potentially adversarial.
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fieldmarshal
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According to Geo TV, President Musharaf will be chairing a naval meeting shortly to finalize the program to build NUCLEAR SUBMARINES......further details were not given....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cc7pDNXmBd8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cc7pDNXmBd8