We will see in 3 years.
The thing is capability from the shipbuilder. I live in Venice, and from my window I see the shipyards specially because the cruisers are building high.
I'm graduating in economics not engineering so i could be writings some very big stupid things but here is what i wrote my thesis about.
On the complexity:
This is China CSSC with the help of Fincantieri and Carnival(as we promised Australia we would have moved some production over there if we got the SEA5000)
Vs
Mitsubishi
It is very interesting seeing the time lapse.
And I don't think that the Japanese don't have the skills, just not the whole chain of added value, or complexity of the cruiser one, because in shipbuilding the level of turnout between competitors and different shipyards is around 10-15% of the total value. Plus the vertical and horizontal integration is very very high.
You can see an example of knowledge spill-over in another very successful Italian class of ships that isn't from Fincantieri but from Intermarine. The Lerici class.
When we used fiberglass to build the hulk for our minesweepers, with the USN ended up buying the class.
And that is no coincidence, who else uses fiberglass? The recreational boating shipbuilders.
This is our production value in the recreational super-yacht sector for example.
What I want to say, or better, what i wrote in my thesis on cluster theory, is that there are innovation spill-overs between civilian and military sector but in the case of UK(thus BAE) the 6£ bln that they spend in the nuclear deterrence, the spill-overs don't end in the conventional shipbuilding, both military and civilian but in the energy sector thus we can see how RR has an amazing (IMHO and i wish we adopt it as Italians) project with SMR reactors.
Meanwhile for us Italians and Germans that the Nuclear could never have been an option (since we lost the WW2) not only it didn't catch up as civilian energy source (probably because we lacked all the weight that France and Uk had in the nuclear deterence value chain) but it allows us a saving and a redirection of those funds towards others sectors, in consequence you can see the difference between the PPA and its counterparts in the latest Naval News video.
Its a matter of how often you get exposed to complexity, and where innovation comes from.
Just my opinion, high chance it is biased, the carrier in the graph probably is the CDG.
LCS was a product before we adquired Marine Marinette.
The thing is capability from the shipbuilder. I live in Venice, and from my window I see the shipyards specially because the cruisers are building high.
I'm graduating in economics not engineering so i could be writings some very big stupid things but here is what i wrote my thesis about.
On the complexity:
First Carnival China Newbuild Cruise Ship Floats Out - Cruise Industry News | Cruise News
The first Carnival China Cruise Shipping newbuild was floated out last week at Shanghai Waigaoqiao Shipbuilding Co., Ltd., a subsidiary of China State Shipbuilding Corporation (CSSC). "We at Carnival are committed to supporting to CSSC and our joint venture CSSC Carnival which is the foundation...
cruiseindustrynews.com
This is China CSSC with the help of Fincantieri and Carnival(as we promised Australia we would have moved some production over there if we got the SEA5000)
Vs
Mitsubishi
No more big cruise ships for Mitsubishi Heavy
Japan, China, India and Southeast Asia news and expert analysis published by Nikkei, an award-winning independent provider of quality journalism.
asia.nikkei.com
And if not wrong 2 years delay on the shipyards.The company since 2011 lost 240 billion yen ($2.31 billion) constructing two large passenger vessels ordered by a U.S. customer.
It is very interesting seeing the time lapse.
And I don't think that the Japanese don't have the skills, just not the whole chain of added value, or complexity of the cruiser one, because in shipbuilding the level of turnout between competitors and different shipyards is around 10-15% of the total value. Plus the vertical and horizontal integration is very very high.
You can see an example of knowledge spill-over in another very successful Italian class of ships that isn't from Fincantieri but from Intermarine. The Lerici class.
When we used fiberglass to build the hulk for our minesweepers, with the USN ended up buying the class.
Lerici-class minehunter - Wikipedia
en.wikipedia.org
And that is no coincidence, who else uses fiberglass? The recreational boating shipbuilders.
This is our production value in the recreational super-yacht sector for example.
What I want to say, or better, what i wrote in my thesis on cluster theory, is that there are innovation spill-overs between civilian and military sector but in the case of UK(thus BAE) the 6£ bln that they spend in the nuclear deterrence, the spill-overs don't end in the conventional shipbuilding, both military and civilian but in the energy sector thus we can see how RR has an amazing (IMHO and i wish we adopt it as Italians) project with SMR reactors.
Small modular reactors
Rolls-Royce SMR LTD was established to develop an affordable power plant that generates electricity using a small modular reactor.
www.rolls-royce.com
Meanwhile for us Italians and Germans that the Nuclear could never have been an option (since we lost the WW2) not only it didn't catch up as civilian energy source (probably because we lacked all the weight that France and Uk had in the nuclear deterence value chain) but it allows us a saving and a redirection of those funds towards others sectors, in consequence you can see the difference between the PPA and its counterparts in the latest Naval News video.
Its a matter of how often you get exposed to complexity, and where innovation comes from.
Just my opinion, high chance it is biased, the carrier in the graph probably is the CDG.
LCS was a product before we adquired Marine Marinette.