Ukranian Crisis

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Feanor

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don't know of him, but was curious to read his views since you referenced him
He's one of the best sources on the Russian military, that I've come across in my internet wanderings. He's got extensive service experience at the enlisted level, and has spent several years publishing buckets and buckets of inside info gathered from personal visits and interviews with service members.
 

dprijadi

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He's one of the best sources on the Russian military, that I've come across in my internet wanderings. He's got extensive service experience at the enlisted level, and has spent several years publishing buckets and buckets of inside info gathered from personal visits and interviews with service members.
feanor , what is your opinion on the rumor that foreign mercenaries were used in that airport battle and one of the reason / incentive for the rebel group is to capture / destroy these mercenary group ?

do you think the kiev side employ mercenaries from eastern european nations ? do you think there is direct involvement of US / western mercenaries on the front doing direct action / combat ops ? so far what i can gather was rumor about US/western mercs training kiev maidainites in poland.
 

umair

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Feanor, again , appreciate your updates... it seems there's lack of news in these last few days i hope nothing bad happened in east ukraine..

The Chechen leader , i read that he give not-so-subtle ultimatium to kiev regarding the treatement of 2 reporters and no matter how kiev try to downplay it , i think the chechen leader's contribution is way more than just flying there with his personal jet and picking up 2 reporters. There seem to be more than seen here..

the crowd that met with the soldiers suprised me a bit, they are so many.. the picture of that old lady hugging the soldier is priceless.. i still cant believe how we can get endless maidan photo back then, but hardly any photo on the eastern ukraine events in the mass media (western)..

the involvement of some ex US govt employee in the polling (like madeline albright), i find that abhorrent.. did US state dept have to be so crass to show that they got horse in this polling ?
Chechens, Tajiks, Russians & hell even Afghans are fighting on the rebels' side. I read an article on the Bing news app on my windows phone. Probably Newyork Times.
 

Feanor

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Chechens, Tajiks, Russians & hell even Afghans are fighting on the rebels' side. I read an article on the Bing news app on my windows phone. Probably Newyork Times.
Abkhazians too apparently. Though I have to wonder about the Afghans... there are plenty of Tadjiks living in Russia and that are quite willing to cross the border to fight. Afghans seems a little far stretched.

Ð”ÐµÐ½Ð¸Ñ ÐœÐ¾ÐºÑ€ÑƒÑˆÐ¸Ð½ - И абхазов нашли

feanor , what is your opinion on the rumor that foreign mercenaries were used in that airport battle and one of the reason / incentive for the rebel group is to capture / destroy these mercenary group ?
I have no info on that. Where are you getting this?

do you think the kiev side employ mercenaries from eastern european nations ? do you think there is direct involvement of US / western mercenaries on the front doing direct action / combat ops ? so far what i can gather was rumor about US/western mercs training kiev maidainites in poland.
I think there are mercenaries in Ukraine. I doubt they're actively involved in combat ops, but it's possible. They'd have to be very careful to avoid capture or even revelation.
 

Feanor

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Update.

Separatists have a military facility in Lugansk surrounded. Parents of the conscripts have been sent inside to negotiate. Also shots have been fired, with no confirmed casualties. One of the barracks may be on fire.

u_96:

Unconfirmed info that in Slavyansk the rebel Nona-S mortar has been damaged or destroyed.

http://military-informant.com/index.php/conflicts/5477-1.html

Allegedly government Grad positions near Slavyansk.

u_96:

Evidence of government forces using explosive rounds against the rebels.

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Government helo over Donetsk.

ЧаÑтный руÑÑкий журнал - Воздух

Photos of the fighting from Donetsk.

u_96:

Ukrainian military vehicles seized by the rebels.

http://cs620918.vk.me/v620918459/931f/cCQt3C4Cf2o.jpg
http://cs620918.vk.me/v620918459/9315/yRTkdagE6O0.jpg
http://cs620918.vk.me/v620918459/9330/1d3iyMBTvmc.jpg

A column of rebel troops in Donetsk.

http://twower.livejournal.com/1309607.html

Massive miners protests are continuing in Donbass with the demand that the government withdraw forcewielders from Donbass.

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The Ukrainian government is planning to declared a state of emergency in Donetsk and Lugansk.

Íîâîñòè NEWSru.com ::  Äîíåöêîé è Ëóãàíñêîé îáëàñòÿõ ñîáèðàþòñÿ ââåñòè ðåæèì ×Ï - ñòðåëüáà íå óòèõàåò

The Russian Federal Migration Service records 140 thousand immigrants that had fled Ukraine.

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Feanor

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Update.

An Mi-8 helo was downed carrying 12 or 14 Ukrainian soldiers aboard, near Slavyansk. General Kulchinskiy was killed, he's an MVD general.

Ополчение СлавÑнÑка Ñбило украинÑкий вертолёт в районе Ñ.Ðндреевка
Íîâîñòè NEWSru.com :: Êðóïíîìàñøòàáíàÿ ÀÒÎ â Ñëàâÿíñêå è Êðàìàòîðñêå: îïîë÷åíöû ñáèëè âåðòîëåò ñ 13-þ âîåííûìè è ãåíåðàëîì
u_96:
Ð”ÐµÐ½Ð¸Ñ ÐœÐ¾ÐºÑ€ÑƒÑˆÐ¸Ð½ - Сбит еще один вертолет

Grad MLRS have been reported firing into Slavyansk.

Íîâîñòè NEWSru.com :: Êðóïíîìàñøòàáíàÿ ÀÒÎ â Ñëàâÿíñêå è Êðàìàòîðñêå: îïîë÷åíöû ñáèëè âåðòîëåò ñ 13-þ âîåííûìè è ãåíåðàëîì

Uragan positions photographed in detail, allegedly near Slavyansk.

u_96:

Rebel positions around Slavyansk. Apparently Semenovka has no electricity at this time.

СВОБОДРИ ЗÐÐÐИЕ -

Btln Vostok has sent everyone out of the Donetsk government administration building, in an attempt to control looting.

Íîâîñòè NEWSru.com :: Áîéöû áàòàëüîíà "Âîñòîê" â ïîèñêàõ ìàðîäåðîâ âûãíàëè èç çäàíèÿ Äîíåöêîé ÎÃÀ âñåõ ñòîðîííèêîâ ÄÍÐ

The Ukrainian military claims they have captured a rebel UAV carrying something toxic, near Donetsk.

Íîâîñòè NEWSru.com :: Óêðàèíñêèå âîåííûå çàÿâëÿþò, ÷òî çàõâàòèëè â Äîíåöêå áåñïèëîòíèê ìÿòåæíèêîâ ñ êàïñóëîé ñ åäêèì âåùåñòâîì

More photos of the fighting around the airport.

tutuskania:

In Kharkov region a column of Ukrainian soldiers was shot up. 1 dead, 2 wounded. This is a spread of violence to previously peaceful Kharkov. According to Tymchuk, 3 are wounded, and 1 is dead.

Ðа Харьковщине обÑтрелÑли колонну украинÑких Ñиловиков
https://www.facebook.com/dmitry.tymchuk/posts/504961116299215

In Lugansk region during a firefight, a munitions storage facility exploded. This appears to be the same unit as the one I mentioned earlier, being blockaded by rebels, and parents of the conscripts. 80 or 100 of the soldiers left the unit after negotiations immediately before the fire fight. The unit is a National Guard unit.

Ð’ военной чаÑти ÐлекÑандровки (ЛуганÑÐºÐ°Ñ Ð¾Ð±Ð»Ð°ÑÑ‚ÑŒ) взорвалÑÑ Ñклад Ñ Ð¾Ñ€ÑƒÐ¶Ð¸ÐµÐ¼
Ð’ ЛуганÑке поÑле штурма чаÑти 100 Ñолдат-Ñрочников ÑдалиÑÑŒ ополченцам
http://colonelcassad.livejournal.com/1607296.html

A column of artillery was ambushed near Slavyansk, killing and wounding an unknown number of service members.

Вблизи СлавÑнÑка обÑтрелÑли военную колонну, ÐºÐ¾Ñ‚Ð¾Ñ€Ð°Ñ Ð¿ÐµÑ€ÐµÐ²Ð¾Ð·Ð¸Ð»Ð° Ñ‚Ñжелое вооружение - ÐовоÑти Украины на 1+1 - ТСÐ.ua

Russian troops were about to withdraw from the border with Ukraine, but that decision was cancelled due to the escalating counter-terrorist operation in the east.

u-96.livejournal.com/3453939.html
Íîâîñòè NEWSru.com :: Ðîññèéñêèå âîéñêà çàäåðæàòñÿ íà óêðàèíñêîé ãðàíèöå èç-çà óæåñòî÷åíèÿ ñèëîâîé îïåðàöèè íà þãî-âîñòîêå Óêðàèíû, ñîîáùèë èñòî÷íèê

Russia has offered to provide humanitarian aid for eastern Ukraine, but the Ukrainian Ministry of Foreign Affairs has declined the offer, stating that it's a propaganda move.

Íîâîñòè NEWSru.com :: ÌÈÄ Óêðàèíû íå ïîâåðèë Ðîññèè, ïðåäëîæèâøåé ãóìàíèòàðíóþ ïîìîùü óêðàèíñêîìó Âîñòîêó

Mining protests in Donetsk. Note that they're protesting with Donetsk Republic flags.

tutuskania:
 

Feanor

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Update.

Artillery fire into Slavyansk is continuing. Battle damage to a children's hospital, and a school.

http://el-murid.livejournal.com/1833446.html
http://jerry24-it.livejournal.com/115619.html

Rebels have captured a military commissariat in Khartzysk, a small town near Donetsk.

http://www.06257.in.ua/article/545111

A destroyed BRDM-2 burns near Aleksandrovka. There was fighting there with a local military unit and rebels. It's unclear whose BRDM-2 this is, since rebels also use these vehicles.

[nomedia="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YlJ2B3dOmdA"]ЛуганÑк29.05.2014. ÐÑ€Ð¼Ð¸Ñ Ð®Ð³Ð¾-ВоÑтока "выдавливает" Ðацгвардию. - YouTube[/nomedia]

In Gorlovka the rebels have seized weapons from a correctional facility and detained the head of the facility. They have left the guards a minimum quantity of weapons.

http://gorlovka.ua/News/Article/6665

Construction of new concrete barricades in Kramatorsk.

http://jerry24-it.livejournal.com/116909.html

Scores of dead Chechens have been returned from Ukraine, by some sources, for burial at home.

Íîâîñòè NEWSru.com :: Æèòåëè ×å÷íè óòâåðæäàþò, ÷òî èç Äîíåöêà ïðèâåçëè äåñÿòêè òåë èõ çåìëÿêîâ, ïîãèáøèõ â áîÿõ. Ãîñäåï ÑØÀ îáåñïîêîåí

According to some sources the 51st Mech Brigade, which took heavy casualties at the outpost ambush at Volnovakha, has refused to continue participating in the fighting, and has been withdraw from Donbass. There are unconfirmed reports of drunkenness among the troops.

http://interpolit.ru/blog/krupnejsh..._otkazalas_voevat_na_donbasse/2014-05-30-1547

The "rebel" UAV shot down by government troops is, according to the SBU, a Russian Orlan-10 UAV. Commentators are quickly stating that it looks nothing like one, but at least to my untrained eye it certainly looks like it could be an Orlan-10.

On the inside of the wreckage you can see a component from the German company moschl.

Ð”ÐµÐ½Ð¸Ñ ÐœÐ¾ÐºÑ€ÑƒÑˆÐ¸Ð½ - Сбитый беÑпилотник

Ukrainian border guards got into a fire fight with rebels, one border guards soldier died. Also they stopped weapons transports coming in from Russia and confiscating significant numbers of weapons.

УкраинÑкие пограничники Ñ Ð±Ð¾ÐµÐ¼ задержали авто Ñ Ð¾Ñ€ÑƒÐ¶Ð¸ÐµÐ¼ и боеприпаÑами

Looting in Donbass is getting out of control.

http://el-murid.livejournal.com/1833027.html

More photos of the looting. Also they're removing most of the barricades in Donetsk, because they're too flimsy. We can expect concrete blocks like they're putting up in Kramatorsk.

http://tutuskania.livejournal.com/1646753.html

Another OSCE group has been allegedly detained by the rebels. The rebels deny this, but given that they're not really one group, this denials might not be worth much.

Íîâîñòè NEWSru.com ::  Ñåâåðîäîíåöêå ìÿòåæíèêè çàäåðæàëè íàáëþäàòåëåé ÎÁÑÅ è ðîññèéñêîãî ïåðåâîä÷èêà

People's Militia of Donbass is starting recruiting in Moscow. So far unofficially.

u_96:

According to some sources the operation in the east is costing Ukraine 3 mil USD per day.

Personal comment: not very expensive in my opinion. Maybe this doesn't account for the costs of the destruction being caused.

Украина тратит $3 млн в день Ð´Ð»Ñ Ð¿Ñ€Ð¾Ð²ÐµÐ´ÐµÐ½Ð¸Ñ Ñпецоперации на воÑтоке Ñтраны

Ukraine is testing a BTR-3 with a Parus combat module (the combat module from a BTR-4).

Ð’ Украине проводÑÑ‚ иÑÐ¿Ñ‹Ñ‚Ð°Ð½Ð¸Ñ Ð‘Ð¢Ð*-3 Ñ Ð±Ð¾ÐµÐ²Ñ‹Ð¼ модулем БМ “ПаруÑâ€

Poroshenko (new president of Ukraine) has asked the US for military aid but was denied.

СШРвновь отказалиÑÑŒ предоÑтавить Украине военную помощь

FSB has arrested 4 Ukrainians on accusation of being Right Sector activists there for the purposes of a terrorist attack. One of them is a somewhat well known film director.

Personal comment: this could easily be a public witch hunt. Then again it could not be...

Íîâîñòè NEWSru.com :: Â Êðûìó çàäåðæàëè óêðàèíñêèõ íàöèîíàëèñòîâ èç "Ïðàâîãî ñåêòîðà", ïëàíèðîâàâøèõ òåðàêòû â Ñèìôåðîïîëå, ßëòå è Ñåâàñòîïîëå

Ukraine is paying 780 mil USD out of their total gas debt.

Íîâîñòè NEWSru.com :: Óêðàèíà ïåðåâåëà íà ðîññèéñêèå ñ÷åòà ÷àñòü ãàçîâîãî äîëãà

After the incident in Odessa, the tourist season there looks like it will be effectively cancelled. People are cancelling tickets, and cruise liners are rerouting to other cities.

Íîâîñòè NEWSru.com :: Ïîñëå òðàãåäèè â Äîìå ïðîôñîþçîâ îïàñåíèÿ î ñðûâå òóðèñòè÷åñêîãî ñåçîíà â Îäåññå ñáûâàþòñÿ

Russian Ministry of Foreign Affairs has expressed surprise that Ukraine doesn't want Russian humanitarian aid delivered to the conflict zone.

Íîâîñòè NEWSru.com :: ÌÈÄ ÐÔ óäèâèëñÿ "çàñëîíó" Êèåâà îò ãóìàíèòàðíîé ïîìîùè Âîñòîêó Óêðàèíû è ïîïðîñèë ïîäóìàòü åùå ðàç

Meanwhile aid for the rebels continues to arrive in the form of food, uniforms, and boots.

http://colonelcassad.livejournal.com/1607747.html
 

Feanor

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Update.

Fighting continues in and around the Donetsk airport. It appears the government still controls most if not all of the airport. A government Il-76 plane had landed cargo at the airport. Artillery fire has been reported.

Ðа окраине Донецка в 5 утра возобновилиÑÑŒ ÑÑ‚Ð¾Ð»ÐºÐ½Ð¾Ð²ÐµÐ½Ð¸Ñ Ð¾Ð¿Ð¾Ð»Ñ‡ÐµÐ½Ñ†ÐµÐ² и Ñиловиков
Íîâîñòè NEWSru.com :: Áîåñòîëêíîâåíèÿ íà îêðàèíå Äîíåöêà è â àýðîïîðòó - ñëûøíû àâòîìàòíûå î÷åðåäè, âçðûâû
Íîâîñòè NEWSru.com :: Áîåâèêè â Äîíåöêå äâàæäû àòàêîâàëè àýðîäðîì, áûëè ñëûøíû âçðûâû

Artillery fire into Slavyansk is continuing.

Íîâîñòè NEWSru.com :: Óêðàèíñêèå âîéñêà îáñòðåëèâàþò Ñëàâÿíñê, ïîâñòàíöû ñîîáùàþò î æåðòâàõ ñðåäè íàñåëåíèÿ
jerry24_it:
jerry24_it:

Another border checkpoint was attacked in Lugansk. 3 wounded, an Su-27 was dispatched to support the border guards.

Íîâîñòè NEWSru.com :: Ñåïàðàòèñòû Ëóãàíñêîé îáëàñòè ïûòàëèñü øòóðìîâàòü îòäåë ïîãðàíñëóæáû.  ïîääåðæêó óêðàèíñêèì ïîãðàíè÷íèêàì íàïðàâëåíà àâèàöèÿ
Ðовые подробноÑти Ð±Ð¾Ñ Ñ Ñ‚ÐµÑ€Ñ€Ð¾Ñ€Ð¸Ñтами на пограничном подразделении «ДьÑково» - 31 ÐœÐ°Ñ 2014 - Жизнь ДобропольÑкого ÐºÑ€Ð°Ñ - новоÑти,ÑобытиÑ, инф

Reliability is questionable, but an IED was disarmed by Ukrainian government troops.

Ð”ÐµÐ½Ð¸Ñ ÐœÐ¾ÐºÑ€ÑƒÑˆÐ¸Ð½ - СВУ на Украине

Donetsk sources claim that they attempted to evacuate children but the buses were stopped by Ukrainian border guards, and the children had to walk across the border. Ukrainian sources deny that anything took place.

 
Íîâîñòè NEWSru.com :: Ïîãðàíè÷íèêè Óêðàèíû îáâèíèëè Àñòàõîâà â "âèðòóàëüíîé" ýâàêóàöèè äåòåé èç Ñëàâÿíñêà

The missing OSCE team has made contact, and is apparently not being detained.

Íîâîñòè NEWSru.com :: Ïîõèùåííûå â Ñåâåðîäîíåöêå íàáëþäàòåëè ÎÁÑÅ âûøëè íà ñâÿçü
 

Goknub

Active Member
Now this one is interesting to read.

Íîâîñòè NEWSru.com :: Îïîë÷åíöû: óêðàèíñêèå ñèëîâèêè ïîä Ëóãàíñêîì âåëè îãîíü ïî ìèðíîìó íàñåëåíèþ

So the claim is the Right Sector are now operating like the NKVD blocking detachments?

If it's true it's a change TTPs that I'm sure would raise a few eyebrows, if it's false it's a good way to convince people to join the fighting. Either way it pretty much guarantees
more support for the pro-Russian side given the captive Russian-speaking audience.
 

Feanor

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If it's true it's a change TTPs that I'm sure would raise a few eyebrows, if it's false it's a good way to convince people to join the fighting. Either way it pretty much guarantees
more support for the pro-Russian side given the captive Russian-speaking audience.
I've read reports of this type of behavior, but I have no objective confirmations.

As for shooting civilians, that has been the case though no systematically. There has been a series of ugly incidents involving National Guard and Right Sector shooting civilians, that tried to blockade the units or chase them out of town.
 

Feanor

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Staff member
Update.

Fighting around Slavyansk continues.

Íîâîñòè NEWSru.com :: Â Ñëàâÿíñêå ñíîâà èäóò áîè ñ ïðèìåíåíèåì àðòèëëåðèè, åñòü ðàíåííûå

Rebel training base in Donbass.

ivanoctober:
u_96:
Colonel Cassad -
tutuskania:

Photos of government troops and rebels. Most of the photos, starting at the top, are government troops. After the photo with the MVD trooper under the big blue sign, the rest are rebel troops.

u_96:

Allegedly a rebel guntruck in the making.

[nomedia="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zE26BzLyx3c"]Ополчение Донецка иÑпытывает тачанку 31.05.2014 - YouTube[/nomedia]

Commander of Ukrainian MVD btln Donbass called Right Sector cowards, who refuse to actually fight, and instead rob locals, work with organized crime, and only make the situation worse. It's interesting because his formation, btln Donbass, started out as a Right Sector formation that ended up under MVD auspices.

С.Семенченко на Майдане назвал бойцов "Правого Ñектора" "позорными труÑами" и мародерами. Информационное агентÑтво УкраинÑкие Ðациональ

Right Sector seized a small town in Dnepropetrovsk but was chased out by angry locals. It looks like there was no bloodshed. Overall this certainly doesn't help the situation for the Ukrainian side.

https://www.facebook.com/republic.novorussia/posts/327521270729772
http://павлоград.dp.ua/2781
macbushin -

A video of the "rebel" UAV shot down by the government.

Ð”ÐµÐ½Ð¸Ñ ÐœÐ¾ÐºÑ€ÑƒÑˆÐ¸Ð½ - Видео "Ñбитого" БПЛÐ

This video claims the material on the downed UAV is a fake.

[nomedia="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VpkFGZFvLwc#t=23"]Ukrainian media lies about downed UAV - YouTube[/nomedia]

A Ukrainian government Il-76 taking off from Donetsk. This would be confirmation that the government definitely controls the airport. That having been said, this is quite risky behavior. All it takes is a lucky MANPADS team.

bmpd -

Donetsk Republic officials claim they no longer have the OSCE observers in custody.

Íîâîñòè NEWSru.com :: Çàäåðæàâøèå íàáëþäàòåëåé ÎÁÑÅ âëàñòè ÄÍÐ íåîæèäàííî èõ "ïîòåðÿëè"

The situation in the 51st Mech Brigade through the eyes of a Ukrainian journalist. He describes drunk soldiers, conscripts who don't want to be there, some drafted and sent there without having ever fired a weapon, incompetent officers, and a general feeling of hopelessness. The soldiers don't want to be there. None of the soldiers he talks to have seen an enemy, but one of the officers was shot up by friendlies by mistake. The soldiers uniforms and weapons don't match, many of the vehicles don't work.

The food is terrible, the water is dirty, and there is no opportunity to shower or wash clothing. Even field kitchens are absent. They frequently have to buy food from local stores, and their paychecks are tiny, requiring money to be sent from home.

The journalist also describes a checkpoint by "self-defense" fighters, who are little more then a random armed militia. They are allegedly on the government side but behave almost like bandits.

bmpd.livejournal.com/873770.html
https://www.facebook.com/vovkulak/posts/601619749934132

A Russian Nationalist checkpoint in Donbass.

Colonel Cassad -

Ukraine is selling 3 used MiG-29s to Chad.

bmpd -

Crimea has finished transition to Russian currency, the rouble.

Íîâîñòè NEWSru.com :: Êðûì çàïðåòèë ãðèâíó è âîøåë â ðóáëåâóþ çîíó
 

Goknub

Active Member
The cheer ineptitude of the bulk of the Ukrainian forces continues to astound me. They'll end up being devastated by disease if they're not careful.

The collection of uniforms is quite interesting
 

Feanor

Super Moderator
Staff member
Update.

The Kiev government is preparing a major offensive in Lugansk region.

Ð’ ЛуганÑке ожидают полномаÑштабную наÑтупательную операцию украинÑких Ñиловиков

Casualties after an airstrike in Lugansk. The purpose of the airstrike is unclear.

Warning graphic images.

Блог ÐлекÑандра Шакуна - ЛуганÑк

Despite video evidence of the airstrike, Ukrainian government sources tried to blame the damage first on an "accidental explosion", then on a MANPADS missile veering off course and hitting the air conditioner. At least 5 are dead,maybe 7.

Ð”ÐµÐ½Ð¸Ñ ÐœÐ¾ÐºÑ€ÑƒÑˆÐ¸Ð½ - О противокондиционерных ракетах
u_96:
u_96:
Íîâîñòè NEWSru.com :: Îò âçðûâà ñíàðÿäà, ïîïàâøåãî â çäàíèå Ëóãàíñêîé îáëàäìèíèñòðàöèè, ïîãèáëè ñåìåðî ÷åëîâåê

A border guards military unit is under attack in Lugansk. The Ukrainian government has declined to promise reinforcements to the besieged unit.

The border guards have lost ~10 wounded, 5 attacking rebels are dead. The fighting is quite intense.

u_96:
Ополченцы начали штурм воинÑкой чаÑти погранÑлужбы в ЛуганÑке
Командование отказало в подкреплении заблокированным ЛуганÑким пограничникам
Ð”ÐµÐ½Ð¸Ñ ÐœÐ¾ÐºÑ€ÑƒÑˆÐ¸Ð½ - Бой за ЛуганÑкий погранотрÑд. ОбновлÑÐµÐ¼Ð°Ñ Ð·Ð°Ð¿Ð¸ÑÑŒ
Ð”ÐµÐ½Ð¸Ñ ÐœÐ¾ÐºÑ€ÑƒÑˆÐ¸Ð½ - ОÑобенноÑти вооружений
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Rebel firing RPG towards the border guards unit in Lugansk. Although, the grenade is colored black which means it could be a training grenade, making the entire photo sequences a fake.

u_96:

Rebels have attacked and destroyed a military radar in Lugansk region.

Ð’ ЛуганÑке вооруженные люди уничтожили радиолокационную Ñтанцию - Украина | ДИÐЛОГ.ua

Photos of btln Donbass fighters in training.

u_96:

Ukrainian soldiers near Slavyansk.

u_96:

Weapons captured from R Sector fighters near Konstantinovka.

u_96: "

Ukraine is re-opening airfields that were closed down since Soviet times.

Воздушные Ñилы Украины вводÑÑ‚ в Ñтрой аÑродромы

Opinion polls in Russia register a decrease in the number of people who think Russia should annex the Ukrainian east, from 35% to 26%.

Íîâîñòè NEWSru.com :: ×èñëî ðîññèÿí, æåëàþùèõ ïðèñîåäèíåíèÿ ìÿòåæíîãî þãî-âîñòîêà Óêðàèíû ê ÐÔ, ñíèçèëîñü áëàãîäàðÿ òåëåâèäåíèþ
 

BlueRose

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Very sickening, I'm afraid we will only see more of these images day by day now. I don't think any fighter in Donbass will lay down their arms now. Kiev keeps pushing the limits.
 
It,s curious and pathetic the silence of western mass media about the criminal bombing of civilians by the Kiev junta yesterday in Lugansk city center, this is the "western democracy" impossed by USA. The videos are there but I am sure they will be deleted soon maybe someone can see the reality and not the american propaganda about the situation in Ukraine.
 

Feanor

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I think the airstrike in Lugansk was a trial run. It's the first such airstrike. It's basically the first time a fixed-wing aircraft delivers payload to a target. It's in a populated area, and the intent is to see how everyone reacts to this. I think more will follow now that there is no general and violent outrage.

The video deleting is a bit alarming. Youtube regularly deleted videos posted by the rebel side in general, and it's not a good trend. It means information will disappear.
 

Feanor

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Update.

In the last post there were photos of an RPG launch. Here's the video. Apparently it was a real launch. Also video of the fighting around the Lugansk border guards unit.

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Photos of battle damage at the Lugansk border guards unit.

http://ivanoctober.livejournal.com/288075.html

Photos and video of the fighting around the border guards unit.

colonelcassad.livejournal.com/1612438.html

Some service members of the Lugansk border guards may have surrendered.

http://colonelcassad.livejournal.com/1613335.html

Captured Ukrainian service members.

http://colonelcassad.livejournal.com/1612953.html

Photos and video positively proving that the airstrike in Lugansk was indeed a government airstrike and not something else.

Warning graphic images.

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Fighting is continuing in and around Slavyansk and Kramatorsk. According to some rebel sources, Kramatorsk is seeing serious fighting.

http://colonelcassad.livejournal.com/1614088.html

According to this 40% of the civilian population has left Slavyansk. Somewhat surprising given repeated statement about civilians caught in the fighting. According to this it's mainly the older population that refuses to leave.

Íîâîñòè NEWSru.com :: Îñàæäåííûé Ñëàâÿíñê íàïîëîâèíó âûìåð: îò îáñòðåëîâ ñáåæàëà ïî÷òè ïîëîâèíà íàñåëåíèÿ

It looks like some compromise is about to be reached regarding gas prices for Ukraine, but details are lacking. So far the two sides have agreed not to pursue the question in court.

Íîâîñòè NEWSru.com :: Ðîññèÿ è Óêðàèíà äîãîâîðèëèñü ñíèæàòü öåíó íà ãàç è íå èäòè ïîêà â Ñòîêãîëüìñêèé ñóä

Russia has tried to run a humanitarian aid resolution on Ukraine through the UN but it didn't work. It was turned down because it lacked references to Ukrainian territorial sovereignty.

Íîâîñòè NEWSru.com :: Ðîññèÿ ïðåäñòàâèëà â ÑÁ ÎÎÍ ïðîåêò ãóìàíèòàðíîé ðåçîëþöèè ïî Óêðàèíå: "ðàáîòà áóäåò íåïðîñòîé"
 

Feanor

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Update.

Just so you know, this post is relatively short not because few things are happening but because reliable info is lacking. Some of the heaviest fighting so far has begun around Slavyansk and government airstrikes are ongoing against Lugansk. Casualties both military and civilian are on the rise, and fixed-wing aircraft are being used systematically for the first time since this conflict began.

Evac of wounded Ukrainian soldiers near Slavyansk.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dxgnK7wccRo

A total of 42 Ukrainian soldiers were wounded, 1 killed, near Slavyansk in the course of a government offensive on the city. Ukrainian MVD confirms several damaged and destroyed BTRs.

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УкраинÑÐºÐ°Ñ Ð°Ñ€Ð¼Ð¸Ñ Ð¿Ñ‹Ñ‚Ð°ÐµÑ‚ÑÑ Ð²Ð·ÑÑ‚ÑŒ под контроль центр СлавÑнÑка

A Ukrainian troop column near Slavyansk was ambushed, damaging one BTR, wounding 13 soldiers, and killing one.

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A Ukrainian Mi-24 was damaged, and forced to land by ZU-23-2 fire. Also an airplane (Su-25 most likely) was damaged by AAA, but managed to get away. It may or may not have crashed out of sight. Su-25s are continuing air strikes against rebel positions.

Heavy fighting continues around Slavyansk, with the rebels reporting their casualties as 7 dead 10 wounded.

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ИнтенÑивный бой идет в районе КраÑного Лимана в Донецкой облаÑти

Krasniy Liman has been partly captured by government troops. According to the rebels local citizens were rounded up, and threatened with execution if the rebels don't surrender.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tPY4F-7YqfM

Fighting continues in Lugansk, two bridges are destroyed one by a government air strike, the other by rebels.

Ukrainian Air Force has dropped over 150 munitions on Lugansk.

Íîâîñòè NEWSru.com ::  Ëóãàíñêå âîçîáíîâèëèñü áîåâûå äåéñòâèÿ. Óêðàèíñêàâèàöèÿ ðàçáîìáèëà ìîñò, åùå îäèí âçîðâàëè îïîë÷åíöû

Ukrainian government sources are claiming that Russia will use ex-Ukrainian MiG-29s out of Crimea to cause provocations inside Ukraine.

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