Russia - General Discussion.

Sandhi Yudha

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Costs of war:


That “thin gruel” bit at the very end is pretty great!


I also read that Russia lost a few spots in math and physics output, rolling down from 4th and 5th spot on the world stage in 2020 to 7 and 8, whichever was which, in 2025.


Probably belongs in this thread:

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So, according to Budanov, Russia now has plans to occupy the Baltic States by 2027. So basically within the next 12 months. Really weird stuff. I am going to come back to this post in a year unless I forget (just like everyone else will, I am sure).

The strike on Poland should have logically come back in 2022-23, when significant equipment and materiel deliveries to Ukraine began. It makes no sense to strike Poland now.

Reuters posted an article citing a whole of 6 US intelligences sources saying that Russia not only wants to occupy all of Ukraine, but also other part of the continent that “belonged to the former Soviet Empire”. To note, the wording is really weird, the Soviet Empire. What belonged to it? The 15 republics (Moldova, Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania, Ukraine, Belarus, Russia itself, Georgia, Armenia, Azerbaijan, Turkmenistan, Kyrgiztan, Kazakhstan, Uzbekistan, Tadzhikistan… am I forgetting anyone?) or are we talking about them heading all the way to Berlin? Regardless, seems like a disinformation campaign and a poorly worded one.

A little bit remarkable article.

Before the plans to construct a whole new own spacestation from scratch, the Russian Orbital Station, the plan was to seperate the latest three Russian modules on the ISS (the Nauka Multi-purpose Laboratory Module, MLM; the Science and Power Module, NEM; and the Prichal Node Module, UM) and restart their life as the future Russian station.

It is just weird to have suddenly the plan to reuse the oldest modules like Zarya and Zvezda.
 

KipPotapych

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A little bit remarkable article.

Before the plans to construct a whole new own spacestation from scratch, the Russian Orbital Station, the plan was to seperate the latest three Russian modules on the ISS (the Nauka Multi-purpose Laboratory Module, MLM; the Science and Power Module, NEM; and the Prichal Node Module, UM) and restart their life as the future Russian station.

It is just weird to have suddenly the plan to reuse the oldest modules like Zarya and Zvezda.
Just another angle of what the war costs the country. Once a leader in space in space tech, now… There is a saying in Russia that came from an excellent satirical novel called The Twelve Chairs that goes “ears from a dead donkey” is what you get. Putin used the idiom a couple of times himself, once during the border demarcation with one the Baltic States (don’t recall which one). It basically means you get squat all, especially if the expectations were different. I think this is rather perfectly fitting in this particular case. “Thin gruel” used by the author of the article is, like I already mentioned, is pretty great use of language as well

People often say that there should be no rewarding the aggressor and some such. The reality is, Russia has paid and is paying through the nose for this war. This is just one consequential example, which also greatly affects the very image Putin has been trying to restore for so many years. And it actually worked before the invasion.

While Russia does still have some world leading research branches, it has been greatly affected by the war. Be it via forced end of cooperation, access to tech, lack of funds, etc. The war has real and significant consequences for the country. I guess it should be noted that we have been affected by this end of cooperation as well, no one should fool themselves about it, but it is nothing comparable to the Russian scientific community. I may write a post on the subject at some point.

While, in spite of some suggestions/convictions, the country can function for a very long time with the current state of the economy, the trend of decline in various knowledge, tech, and money intensive industries is only going to continue on its downward trajectory, if not steepen.
 
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