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John Fedup

John Fedup

The Bunker Group
CorvetteCrunch said:


HMCS Protecteur (JSS-1) has recently been moved onto the launching platform in anticipation of her naming ceremony and subsequent launch in the near future.
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Currently in Mission, BC but the drive into Vancouver sucks big time. Maybe I should drive in on Xmas day when traffic will be minimal for a look.:rolleyes:
 
Underway

Underway

Active Member
Exciting week!

AOPS proving it self to be the right platform for the job despite the criticism. The government (Harper's gov't) look farsighted at this point, given the renewed tensions across the ice.

JSS will bring redundancy to the RCN's blue water capabilities. JSS 2 is already ahead of schedule (they learned a lot on JSS 1). I don't expect they will reduce the cost though! Lmao
 
John Fedup

John Fedup

The Bunker Group
Underway said:
Exciting week!

AOPS proving it self to be the right platform for the job despite the criticism. The government (Harper's gov't) look farsighted at this point, given the renewed tensions across the ice.

JSS will bring redundancy to the RCN's blue water capabilities. JSS 2 is already ahead of schedule (they learned a lot on JSS 1). I don't expect they will reduce the cost though! Lmao
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The reduced cost will come with JSS 3.:p Although needed, a third ship is unlikely though.
 
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Sender

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John Fedup said:
The reduced cost will come with JSS 3.:p Although needed, a third ship is unlikely though.
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Actually, there is talk of a third and possibly a fourth, to a modified design, based on feedback from the operation of JSS1 and 2. Sometime in the 2030s, after Seaspan has completed the Coast Guard orders. It's well known that 3 ships (JSS1, JSS2, and Asterix) are not adequate to requirements.
 
Underway

Underway

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John Fedup said:
The reduced cost will come with JSS 3.:p Although needed, a third ship is unlikely though.
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I wouldn't be too surprised if we did like the Germans did between the Berlin and Bohn. Sail the ship for 5-6 years and then order the next one with improvements recommended for the overall design. Bohn was in service 10 years later and is very different internally to the Berlin. Canada used the Bohn design as the baseline. Canada even improved on it from German recommendations.
(Example is the Bohn's stores crane and clamshell doors are only on the port side. Protecteur has doors and cranes on both sides. So the ship doesn't ever have to flip just to store.)


At some point the Asterix needs to be replaced and that 2% needs to get hit somehow!
It would also create a nice age gap in supply ships. Asterix ~20 yrs old, Protecteur 11yrs old, Preserver 8ish yrs old, Provider 1 year old.
 
CorvetteCrunch

CorvetteCrunch

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Underway said:
I wouldn't be too surprised if we did like the Germans did between the Berlin and Bohn. Sail the ship for 5-6 years and then order the next one with improvements recommended for the overall design. Bohn was in service 10 years later and is very different internally to the Berlin. Canada used the Bohn design as the baseline. Canada even improved on it from German recommendations.
(Example is the Bohn's stores crane and clamshell doors are only on the port side. Protecteur has doors and cranes on both sides. So the ship doesn't ever have to flip just to store.)


At some point the Asterix needs to be replaced and that 2% needs to get hit somehow!
It would also create a nice age gap in supply ships. Asterix ~20 yrs old, Protecteur 11yrs old, Preserver 8ish yrs old, Provider 1 year old.
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I would like to see the RCN get at absolute minimum a third resupply vessel sometime in the future, if that be an Asterix purchase, a cheap vessel from abroad or a third JSS (Provider?) as you mention. I get the feeling Asterix won't end up purchased, I have heard some unsatisfactory things regarding the conversion and the Navy seemingly has no interest in buying her. Davie apparently wants a lot of money to sell the vessel, more than it is worth realistically.
 
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