For work clothes, stains should not have any effect on useful life. Who cares? Function should dominate, not aesthetics.
Camouflage for shipboard work clothes is crazy.
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Camouflage for shipboard work clothes is crazy.
In the pussers, the Jimmy the one (XO) would have an errant sailor up before the appropriate officers table with their cap off (defaulters parade) for daring to present themselves on deck in a less than tiddly (perfect) uniform regardless of whether it was No 1s (best dress) or No 8s (overalls).
Exactly, I've personally witnessed sailors being ordered to stop what they are doing and immediately replace, even if it means buying, a new Tshirt or cap because the SNCO or officer concerned believes it is too dirty or shabby. About the only thing that would require the cams be replaced was tears or obvious fraying.
I was visiting enoggerah for an exercise a few years back, one of the RAN blokes coming along as an observer had dirty duds on, despite it being a rough visit and no chance of VIPs on that day, we ended up going to a mil surplus store to buy some clean kit as he was worried about getting ticked off by a snr sir for being grubby
In the past when normal Sea going rig was a pair of blue shorts and sandals on the uppers and stokers who wore the most thrashed out blue overalls, nobody cared, it was working rig and seaman chipped and painted and cleaned and scrubbed and yes they got dirty. That's what the change to evening rig was all about after shower and before dinner.
If they wanted to be sensible and safe they should have followed commercial seafarers and dressed everyone at sea in orange overalls, otherwise why the expense of the change? Naturally if going ashore in uniform then neat clean and tidy should prevail not the grubby camos they've been working in all day.
The big issue at Coonawarra was running the gauntlet past buildings with windows between the wharf down the hill and the class rooms, accommodation and car parks atop it. It was especially dangerous during nice weather, as opposed to stupidly hot, humid, or wet, that may have discouraged a cranky WO or Commander from venturing out to stop and inspect. Most often it was the PO or CPO having a quiet word, "I would replace that before you are told to" ie. do it now.
RAN Cam is about branding, just like the RAAF 'Street Fighter' Cams. Absolutely nothing to do with it's utility or otherwise.
They all pretty much wear DPCU or Multi-cams on Ops anyway, when away from ship or off base.
Hello all,
Having a look at the ABC news page and up popped a short news piece about HMAS Hobart currently conducting sea trials. Good to see some exposure for ship and the project in general.
Not too political and probably nothing new in it for those that follow navy news, but it was good to see it on the public broadcasters radar.
Regards S
Having a look at the ABC news page and up popped a short news piece about HMAS Hobart currently conducting sea trials. Good to see some exposure for ship and the project in general.
Not too political and probably nothing new in it for those that follow navy news, but it was good to see it on the public broadcasters radar.
Regards S
Here you go
First Air Warfare Destroyer HMAS Hobart being tested ahead of handover to Navy later this year - ABC News (Australian Broadcasting Corporation)
Still very focused on job shedding which remains an issue.
John Newman
The Bunker Group
Getting closer, bit by bit, not long now...
I did read a while ago that the Spanish F-105, Cristóbal Colón, will be spending a reasonable about of time here this year and be involved in Hobart's sea trials (another smart move by our Spanish friends too).
As for job Shedding, well what can you do??
Now if only during the Rudd/Gillard/Rudd years (and yes I'm showing my political colours here yet again, and have no shame in doing so too!!!!), some of those many many wasted billions of GFC dollars could had gone elsewhere.
Infrastructure upgrades to Techport (hardstands and ship lift extension) to possibly have the capabilities to build AOR sized ships.
And of course if that option for the '4th' AWD had been exercised at the right time too.
Either of the above two could have been the perfect 'gap filler' between the end of the AWD's and the Future Frigates.
Anyway, what can you do.......
I've lost track of things, what is the current planned filler between the AWD and the frigates?
Ideally you would do something like announce the F-105 hull evolution as the frigate choice, and people could start on that immediately.
John Newman
The Bunker Group
Mate! You must be having too much of a good Summer to loose track, ha ha!
The first two (from what has been reported) of the new fleet of 12 OPV"s will be the gap fillers between the AWD's and the Future Frigate.
Cutting of steel for the first OPV is planned to commence in 2018, the first two OPV's will be constructed at Techport before production (from hull no 3) moves to WA.
Then in 2020 the plan is to start cutting steel for the first of the nine Future Frigates.
What bloody summer? It must of stayed over your side of the ditch. They had the snowboards out last week in the mountains doing winter sports instead of summer sports.
Its currently 33 degrees in Sydney, at 11:30 pm. It got up to 43 degrees today, although my car said 48 when I got in it to drive home.
Currently I would say Sydney would give anywhere a run for its money. Better upspec those aircon units.. We just had our hottest january night ever.
Sydney weather: City braces for hottest January night EVER | Daily Mail Online
John Fedup
The Bunker Group
Great beach pictures. What would be considered normal temperatures in Sydney for Jan? 43 is damn hot.
As a note on this - Germany is buying a Lürssen OPV derivative without hangar or weapons. The tail in this version - under the helodeck - carries a daughter vessel plus "space for containerized mission modules". Cost is around 55 million Euro per vessel, compared to around 35 million Euro for a OPV80.
OPV85 as advertised by Lürssen is pretty much the - pretty ugly - militarized version of this German Federal Police vessel. Probably costs around twice as much too. Without weapons.
The average Max temp. would usually sit around 30-35 for sydney
Fassmer is also offering a naval 80 meter OPV
https://www.fassmer.de/fileadmin/user_upload/9_Technical_Data_PDFs/fassmer-80m-naval_opv.pdf
as opposed to their standard OPV.
https://www.fassmer.de/fileadmin/us...80m-offshore-patrol-vessel-technical-data.pdf
With better weapons, better sensors and a limited ASuV, ASW and CiWS capability it could be tempting for the navy.
No it won't be tempting. CN, the IIP, and all other communication regarding the new OPVs state quite clearly that they are for border protection duties initially but they will have extended reach and performance than the ACPBs.
Naturally this does not preclude retro fitting more capability in the future.
The budget allocated does not allow for bells and whistles.
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