Royal Australian Navy Discussions and Updates 2.0

[spoz]

And as noted, nor does it have CIWS. Or Nulka, so far as I can see; in fact it is rather short of decoys all around. Can’t sea EOS, either.

Arrays near the masthead are almost certainly X band horizon search for sea skimmers but they do look like a CEA product, if so not one I know.

 

[Going Boeing]

A couple of great pics of HMAS Adelaide in Jervis Bay - courtesy of Maree Clout through her “Jervis Bay Through My Eyes” Facebook site.

 

[devo99]

And as noted, nor does it have CIWS. Or Nulka, so far as I can see;

There appears to be Nulka launchers above the hanger just fore of the MASS launcher.

 

[hauritz]

It surprises me that we haven't ordered more CIWS. A dozen Phalanx clearly aren't enough.

 

[iambuzzard]

Yup - DTR has another one with much more detail in the May edition on pager 30-31. The radar face orientation now matches the upgraded Anzacs.

Still 32 Mk40 VLS since that was asked earlier.

What is the new set of small faces on top of the mast? Are they for top protection/ballistic missile tracking? Different band?
On ANZAC each band was a different face size. Now it looks like 4 faces (1 large, 2 medium, 1 small) for each 60 degree arc.

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That looks like a lot of empty deck space above the mission bay. Room for more NSM or perhaps another CIWS?

 

[Reptilia]

That looks like a lot of empty deck space above the mission bay. Room for more NSM or perhaps another CIWS?

Would prefer adaptable deck launcher if possible -if it can take the weight.
An extra 8 to 16 cells without cutting into the mission bay gives you a lot of versatility, especially if they integrate both LRASM and NSM with the mk41.

 

[Going Boeing]

That looks like a lot of empty deck space above the mission bay. Room for more NSM or perhaps another CIWS?

The original layout showed the Phalanx CIWS on each side of the intake/exhaust stack which left the area above the mission bay relatively clear.



The mission bay area is large enough that on the proposed AAW version, it would be replaced by 64 Mk41 VLS as well as 16 NSM launchers.

 

[Severely]

Interesting first look at the guts of the control centre in a Mogami Frigate.

 

[SammyC]

Interesting first look at the guts of the control centre in a Mogami Frigate.

Nice video on the control room, first I've seen.

I'm going to call BS on the stealth paint.

 

[iambuzzard]

Nice video on the control room, first I've seen.

I'm going to call BS on the stealth paint.

We've seen nothing like it on the TKMS offering.

 

[spoz]

AI commentary is hopeless. Combat Information Centre or Operations Room - Control Room is a submarine term.

Really adds nothing to what was already publicly available, anyway. Although the circular displays in the Ops Room are interesting; I’m not convinced that will add add significantly to situational awareness - after all, a human can only look in one direction at a time. Interesting, but an innovation which may or may not find wide favour.

ALL modern warships have very comprehensive display systems in their ops spaces; the fact that the TKMS option has not been displayed publicly is meaningless. Those whose job it is to evaluate potential combat systems well have great detail on the offerings from both.

 

[K.I.]

The released drawings indicate that it still has 6 faces for the radar arrays which means that each array only has to operate 30 degrees either side of centre which is more optimum than looking at more acute angles.

I can’t say for sure but I believe that the large array on each face is L band, the 2 medium arrays could be S & X band - I’m sure that there’s more knowledgeable people on this site who can correct any of my errors. There are small arrays on the roof of the mast which may be S band for ballistic missile defence.

It certainly looks like one very impressive radar fit that would be suitable for AAW operations.

Based on the ANZAC system it's nominally an L/S/X band radar, but CEA has also dabbled with other bands so who knows? It's definitely a unique system and a groundbreaking multi band 3D radar that sets a new standard.
I like how they periodically release an updated artist's impression to drip feed "changes" to the public.
Will a CIWS mounting a 20mm be worthwhile in a decade?
Why does the orientation of the Mk41 keep changing?

 

[devo99]

We've seen nothing like it on the TKMS offering.

The TKMS offering will either look mostly like the CIC on the Egyptian Al-Aziz class or whatever layout they come up with for the SAAB 9LV version, which doesn't physically exist yet unless they were to re-use the layout on the Anzacs. Seeing as TKMS is significantly less likely to get access to film inside the CIC of an Egyptian ship than MHI is in a Japanese ship it's not that surprising that a similar video doesn't exist for MEKO A200.

 

[JBRobbo]

There appears to be Nulka launchers above the hanger just fore of the MASS launcher.

Pretty sure there are 2x4-cell vertical launchers for Nulka divided either side of the main mast in addition to the single 8-cell VLS forward of the stern 1x32 81mm MASS launcher above the hangar. Correct me if i am wrong but i think you can faintly see them hugging the port & starboard sidewalls perfectly inbetween the 4x 'wings' for antennae that protrude off the main mast, they must pivot outwards to launch in some way as it seems like a close shave but they've been present in that location in every design iteration i can think of since the beginning.